who latched the door?
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Good question. There should have been lots of prints. Probably too many to sort out, impossible to know when they were made.
I've always thought it was part of the "bungling" that made French not open the door, bungling which sometimes really seems deliberate. The plane not being ready, and probably some other things I forget at the moment, all could mean that it was already widely known what had happened at the Rams'.
Don't ask me how. But I've always said maybe PR wasn't the only one still in last night's clothes. The whole crowd got there awfully early, and very possibly they were all wearing last night's clothes.
This case is so weird.
I have questions regrding the wine cellar door. We know John Ramsey broke the window at one point to enter the house as he had no keys.
1. How did John get into the first floor if the cellar door was latched from the other side?
2. Does the cellar door latch have the ability to be turned from the cellar side?
3. Why would some unknown kidnapper open the cellar door and somehow lock it if even possible from the cellar side without knowing anything about the latch?
4. If you noticed the latch was open the night you were searching for your daughter who supposedly was kidnapped, would you lock it?
Seems Mr. Ramsey knew everythingabout that latch as did Patsy. This latch had to be to keep kids out of the cellar.
1. How did John get into the first floor if the cellar door was latched from the other side?
2. Does the cellar door latch have the ability to be turned from the cellar side?
3. Why would some unknown kidnapper open the cellar door and somehow lock it if even possible from the cellar side without knowing anything about the latch?
4. If you noticed the latch was open the night you were searching for your daughter who supposedly was kidnapped, would you lock it?
Seems Mr. Ramsey knew everythingabout that latch as did Patsy. This latch had to be to keep kids out of the cellar.
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The latch on the door to the “wine cellar” (a small closet-like space within the main cellar) operated only from the outside. There was no passage to the rest of the house from the wine cellar. The broken cellar window was some distance away, in the main cellar, which was actually a warren of rooms opening into each other. If John indeed let himself into the house through that broken window (several months before the murder), he would just have walked around through the cellar up the stairs to the main portions of the house.
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Adding to what 887sMtreme said, it helps to keep the terms straight since the house is confusing enough as it is. The house had a large basement, and the windowless room called the wine cellar was one of the rooms in the basement. With the Ramsey house, I've always found that a picture is worth a thousand words.
Here's a link to a crime scene photo showing the view from the foot of the basement stairs down the hall to the door of the wine cellar. The wooden block latch is visible at the top of the door. As you can see, the block can be turned only from the outside.
http://www.acandyrose.com/072basement.jpg
There was a door at the top of the basement stairs that led to the rest of the house, but it was not kept locked. HTH.