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Thanks. Silly me. I should have thought of that. I'm a zombie this morning.It should be on the Barron County Sheriff's Office FB page/a link will be there.
Thanks. Silly me. I should have thought of that. I'm a zombie this morning.It should be on the Barron County Sheriff's Office FB page/a link will be there.
Wow. That is weird. We had our septic emptied once every three years. It is expensive to have it pumped; sounds like they needed a new septic system. Big $$$$$$
What if:
Killer takes Jayme for the simplest reason - he is out of ammo? Multiple rounds spent. He simply hasn’t got the bullet to do her in and she’s a witness. So he grabs her.
Sure he could have killed her another way (suffocate?) (break neck?) but those things take time and he may not be experienced in either so he panics and snatches her to deal with later on?
It doesn’t seem the correct answer in my head but stranger things have happened I’m sure.
Had that been the case, he could have easily beaten her or stabbed her to death. She’s a 13 year old girl, and it wouldn’t take a great deal of effort by a male of any size.What if:
Killer takes Jayme for the simplest reason - he is out of ammo? Multiple rounds spent. He simply hasn’t got the bullet to do her in and she’s a witness. So he grabs her.
Sure he could have killed her another way (suffocate?) (break neck?) but those things take time and he may not be experienced in either so he panics and snatches her to deal with later on?
It doesn’t seem the correct answer in my head but stranger things have happened I’m sure.
That actually is an idea to consider. I don't like it, of course, but it does work. It doesn't answer why the perp entered the house, but it does explain why he took Jayme.What if:
Killer takes Jayme for the simplest reason - he is out of ammo? Multiple rounds spent. He simply hasn’t got the bullet to do her in and she’s a witness. So he grabs her.
Sure he could have killed her another way (suffocate?) (break neck?) but those things take time and he may not be experienced in either so he panics and snatches her to deal with later on?
It doesn’t seem the correct answer in my head but stranger things have happened I’m sure.
I assume people don't live there year-round, then, if it's just a holding tank.ours gets pumped every 3 years at the cabin upnorth.
Hi Human.
The problem septic systems can have in areas where there are a lot of trees around the tree root system can often breech the drain line system which is underground and branches out to the drain line field coming from the septic system. Roots are a big factor especially if they have older clay pipes buried underground.
If the drain line system is compromised the septic tank doesnt drain properly due to a compromised drainline..
Often that can lead to having the septic tank pumped much more often than normal since it's not able to drain properly.
We have a 1000 gallon septic tank and replaced the drain field about 6 years ago. There are only 2 of us living here and we haven't had to have ours serviced or pumped since then.
Upgraded drain field line systems put in now do a much more sufficient job than say in the 70s when their home was built.
Some would rather have the tank pumped more often than having replace the entire drain field lines which is way more expensive.
Imo
Very good point. Everyone needs to be careful about putting pictures of their children out publicly on SM.Perhaps mom has posted more recent photos and updates. Privacy settings can be changed on individual posts. Perhaps mom shared with Friends only?
Not the first case where this topic is discussed.....We know their lot is wooded, so that is a possibility.
I am learning so much about septic systems!
So little information this is what it has come to-sleuthing on excrement.
Hi Human.
The problem septic systems can have in areas where there are a lot of trees around the tree root system can often breech the drain line system which is underground and branches out to the drain line field coming from the septic system. Roots are a big factor especially if they have older clay pipes buried underground.
If the drain line system is compromised the septic tank doesnt drain properly due to a compromised drainline..
Often that can lead to having the septic tank pumped much more often than normal since it's not able to drain properly.
We have a 1000 gallon septic tank and replaced the drain field about 6 years ago. There are only 2 of us living here and we haven't had to have ours serviced or pumped since then.
Upgraded drain field line systems put in now do a much more sufficient job than say in the 70s when their home was built.
Some would rather have the tank pumped more often than having replace the entire drain field lines which is way more expensive.
Imo
I agree with your thinking here. I think that she was the target and that the family likely had some sort of familiarity with him.Just catching up after reading most of the previous threads. I'm probably repeating a lot of previous posts with my opinion so apologies in advance!
I think Jayme was the main target for the Unsub. I think he had some kind of fixation with her. I also think he is a local, or from a neighboring town if not Barron. I think this person has been watching Jayme for awhile and had been planning this. I doubt the person is married, and probably doesn't have any children. I think the parents recognized and knew who he was when he began the attack, maybe an acquaintance or just someone they have seen around.
I'm sure the FBI has very in-depth victimology profiles for all three victims. These are likely updated regularly based on new information uncovered. I also would think they are working on the offender profile as well. I know sometimes they release the profile of an offender to the public in some cases but I don't know if that will be the case here.
Hopefully surveillance from local businesses or private homes are still being reviewed for at least the full week before this heinous crime occurred. There might be a vehicle seen at multiple times going in directions to and from the Closs home that has no reason to be going that route multiple times.
And from this video at the 37 second mark you can see the side of the house with that deck. Screenshot attached.
Jayme Closs disappearance: 911 call came from mom's cell
RSBM.(When the full dispatch log was posted in an earlier thread, I thought I saw that one of those people had a 1971 birthdate which is obviously not a teenager. Maybe I got the wrong person?)
My point regarding this is really just about people questioning what their home equity loan was for. Far more likely it was something like this than to pay off gambling debts or other types of things people suggested early on. Home ownership isn't cheap.We know their lot is wooded, so that is a possibility.
I am learning so much about septic systems!
So little information this is what it has come to-sleuthing on excrement.