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It is a terrible choice of words, if they do not expect to find her alive.
 
"moving to a favorable conclusion" would mean to me that someone abducted her and that she is still alive.....safe.
An "unfavorable conclusion" would be a body recovery.
 
Cubby said:
IIRC the FBI wasn't involved from day one. I can't recall exactly when the FBI became involved.... so I don't think it is really a full three weeks they waited. I could be wrong though.....
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The FBI showed up on Monday afternoon, my wife was part of the first team operating for the FBI investigators. The announcement that the FBI took over the investigation was Wednesday.
 
"If someone out there has home security video with anything that looks suspicious, please call the West Virginia State Police at 304-269-0500," Killeen said.

Though he would offer no further comment, Killeen said law enforcement officials have narrowed the time line regarding the disappearance of Aliayah Lunsford.

"The focus is narrowing, and we are working to a favorable conclusion," he said.

He added that the case is still being considered a homicide, abduction or concealment. Killeen declined to discuss persons of interest or suspects, saying it could compromise the investigation.

Killeen said that as the investigation has narrowed, they also have determined there is no threat of danger to other children in the community
"I want to dispel rumors we are not working on this case," Killeen said. "At times, investigators are working 24 hours a day on this case."

Specifically, Killeen said the dozens of people working on the case include law enforcement and personnel at the various crime labs representing the agencies on the case. He likened this work to put together a 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle.

"We have many pieces together," he said. "We are pleased with our progress."

http://theintermountain.com/page/co...u-looking-at-surveillance-tapes.html?nav=5014
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Well now that I look at that particular statement in context, I'm not so excited about the choice of words.
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Westinlund said:
The FBI showed up on Monday afternoon, my wife was part of the first team operating for the FBI investigators. The announcement that the FBI took over the investigation was Wednesday.
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Monday October 3rd and Wednesday October 5th? If so that was less than two weeks ago.

Just trying to sort out the dates. Thank you. :)
 
~n/t~ said:
In fairness, it's not the reporting. It's a quote by the FBI. I guess a conclusion to a case is considered favourable in their books whether the child is alive or dead. Case solved on to the next attitude.
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The statement was taken out of context.. hence, "shoddy reporting" IMO
 
~n/t~ said:
In fairness, it's not the reporting. It's a quote by the FBI. I guess a conclusion to a case is considered favourable in their books whether the child is alive or dead. Case solved on to the next attitude.
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I agree. Every LEO I know IRL wants the cases solved and closed. They don't like open cases on the books, especially those that go cold for years and years. (there are not 9000 unsolved missing persons cases at Charley Project for nothing... and she only lists them at CP once they are six months old or older.)

IMO, if "favorable conclusion" meant an alive and well Aliayah, there would be far more press coverage with LE asking people to look for her, what to look for, a possible poi, etc. There have been zero reports of sightings that I'm aware of and no such requests from LE.

jmho
 
cluciano63 said:
It is a terrible choice of words, if they do not expect to find her alive.
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It's LE speak....... it is what it is. They aren't necessarily trained as PR specialists and I'd rather they get to the business of solving cases and making arrests than always having to be that precise with their choice of words.

jmvho
 
Ok that makes more sense if they said they are "working toward a favorable conclusion"...of course they are, who would want anything else? But not that one is expected...
 
Cubby said:
I agree. Every LEO I know IRL wants the cases solved and closed. They don't like open cases on the books, especially those that go cold for years and years. (there are not 9000 unsolved missing persons cases at Charley Project for nothing... and she only lists them at CP once they are six months old or older.)

IMO, if "favorable conclusion" meant an alive and well Aliayah, there would be far more press coverage with LE asking people to look for her, what to look for, a possible poi, etc. There have been zero reports of sightings that I'm aware of and no such requests from LE.

jmho
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I have to disagree.. the full statement was "The focus is narrowing, and we are working to a favorable conclusion," he said. To me this means they are working towards an arrest, or justice for Aliayah.
They've already expressed that there is not alot of hope that she is still alive (see past articles) so this statement in the press was taken totally out of context as evidenced by your confusion.
The media in this case is and continues to be second rate at best...
 
deelytful1 said:
I have to disagree.. the full statement was "The focus is narrowing, and we are working to a favorable conclusion," he said. To me this means they are working towards an arrest, or justice for Aliayah.
They've already expressed that there is not alot of hope that she is still alive (see past articles) so this statement in the press was taken totally out of context as evidenced by your confusion.
The media in this case is and continues to be second rate at best...
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You're saying exactly what I meant. I wasn't very clear, I meant LE releasing and asking for the public to be looking for an unknown POI, as in a potential abductor. I don't believe she was abducted. I believe she is being concealed due to a homicide or accident at the hands of mom and/or step dad.

I just hope she is found. I'd be incredibly shocked if she were found safe and alive, and yes, a favorable conclusion imo would be both an arrest and recovery. :blowkiss:
 
Well if Aliayah has passed (and I believe she has) I would like to hear about an arrest and a body being found. These unresolved cases are so much worse.
 
pinkfly said:
Well if Aliayah has passed (and I believe she has) I would like to hear about an arrest and a body being found. These unresolved cases are so much worse.
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IMOO I agree. Not knowing is worse. Of course I always hope for the best, but in this case, I don't think so. But I do want to see this little girl sent off to a better place then left in limbo.
 
Cubby said:
Monday October 3rd and Wednesday October 5th? If so that was less than two weeks ago.

Just trying to sort out the dates. Thank you. :)
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I'm sorry, the FBI showed up on Monday, September 26th and took over the investigation on Wednesday, September 28th.
 
Cubby said:
It's LE speak....... it is what it is. They aren't necessarily trained as PR specialists and I'd rather they get to the business of solving cases and making arrests than always having to be that precise with their choice of words.

jmvho
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I know a lot about "LE speak" because my son has been in LE for over 20 years, but I have to agree with others... a favorable conclusion would mean finding this child alive, NOT arresting and charging someone with murder. Most of them are pretty happy when a missing person is found alive, and definitely NOT happy when they find a body.... especially a child. Yeah, they like to solve cases, but calling it a favorable conclusion is just not the way I would expect them to phrase it. JMO.
 
Good morning, little Aliayah.... I so wish you had been found by now. I pray for you every single day, and hope you are safe and warm. Sending tons of hugs and butterfly kisses your way, baby girl... your WS family loves you!!!!

Where are you Aliayah? :(
 
I'm not seeing any of the other stations talking about this press conference yet.
 
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