Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #17

[Mike in WNY]

Diaz is IMO. There is a strong nexus between the Laundrie family and GP. Can't imagine a judge not seeing that and signing off on a warrant.

The NPPD 1) need legal counsel or better legal counsel - their excuses smell & 2) need a professional media rep - theirs stinks. I'll never understand why they didn't exercise their full investigative powers. Leaning in the direction of incompetence in both my points, sadly. Even if they "believed" their hands were tied, they looked as bad as the stonewalling parents in this case. And both parties have made getting to the truth needlessly long and complicated.
JMHO

Yeah. While there are plenty of individual tragedies and bizarro behaviors in this whole thing... don't we all expect consistent professional behavior & performance from a (supposed) professional law enforcement agency/department. The actions of the police *department* - not a sole individual -- are certainly food for discussion by the public. Mt/ Taylor... well... is apparently, Mr. Taylor. Berating the public is a most unique approach, IMO.

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

Yes. Depending on autopsy and investigation of crime scene results, there may be no usable evidence that BL killed GP.

He could say she told him to leave. So he did. Could say she told him he could take the van back to FL in a given time. So he returned to get van and did so. The DA is going to have to prove with hard evidence that BL did it if that’s what they believe snd it might not hold up in court. Remember, he died not have to say a thing. Doesn’t have to answer any questions. And if there is a possible other scenario that physically could have happened, there may not be a case strong enough to indict him, much less convict him

I feel that without forensics in terms of actual DNA, the DA are really going to have their work cut out with this case.

Also, as they were in a relationship, the defence could maybe excuse away some DNA transfer on that basis too.

 

[jamicat]

I know whenever someone I love dies accidentally in my presence, I make sure to not tell anyone, go on the run, and get my parents across the country to lawyer up and refuse to cooperate with the authorities regarding my missing loved one.

I agree fully that JL is slime. In no Place other than in court of law or hell, would there not be severe repercussions for not reporting your companion missing. He will suffer repercussions from the public. But he may go scot free in the courts.

 

[RabidDogISC]

Diaz is IMO. There is a strong nexus between the Laundrie family and GP. Can't imagine a judge not seeing that and signing off on a warrant.

The NPPD 1) need legal counsel or better legal counsel - their excuses smell & 2) need a professional media rep - theirs stinks. I'll never understand why they didn't exercise their full investigative powers. Leaning in the direction of incompetence in both my points, sadly. Even if they "believed" their hands were tied, they looked as bad as the stonewalling parents in this case. And both parties have made getting to the truth needlessly long and complicated.
JMHO

IMO A search warrant for the Laundrie home would require a link to the crime scene in Wyoming. The crime happened in WY, not at the Laundrie home. The van is something they can retrieve for evidence as it was the last thing Gabby was known to be with. Gabby was never in the Laundrie home. Unless BL committed a crime after coming home, like ditching evidence in the home or Gabby’s belongings from the trip are in the home they have no reason to take their the home computer. They can get everything they need from GP and BL’s phone and computer records from the van. IMO.

 

[Skigirl]

At this point in the investigation, is it at all feasible that Brian didn't kill Gabby?


Could he claim he left her in the van, went hitchhiking, and when he returned she was either gone, or dead? Yes, he obviously should've immediately reported her missing/dead, but panicked and fled instead..

Is there already evidence in terms of time frames to refute this and blow his defence clean out of the water or is there a chance that it MIGHT not have been him, and his only crime was fleeing the scene and then having a meltdown and going awol?

MOO

IMO, no. But if he's found and tried, that will be the defense theory. Innocent people don't just find their partner missing and decide to flee the area, lawyer up, and then disappear. That's movie stuff.

 

[kittythehare]

I do think North Port police dropped the ball. Now, Brian's parents are saying when they found Brian's car that there was a note on it from the police--saying it needed to be removed. How in the world does a car sitting where it shouldn't be not prompt an officer to run the tag and find out it belongs to the family of the most publicized POI in the nation?

And sure, Laundrie's attorney said he would speak for Brian, but why weren't the police on Laundrie's doorstep anyway, asking the parents questions?

And then there's the statement LE made before Brian fled that they "knew where he was." Come on...no one really believes that.

Perhaps they felt stymied by this being a federal case and the fact she was reported missing in a different community, but they should have been leaning on the Laundries. Instead, they treated them with kid gloves.

Yes, they dropped the ball.

They had zero evidence that a crime had been committed!
They were handed a card stating a lawyer would be representing them or/and their son.
These are the laws they are bound to uphold.
They're stuck with them.
So are we.
I believe they acted correctly.
Maybe they could have staked out the home, but to what end?
They had the lawyer's assurances he was there.
(same lawyer must be running for cover right now)

 

[MyJoey]

Well since the search has been called off for Brian. It will be interesting to see if his parents go there looking for him. I mean if that’s where they think he is…..

 

[SouthAussie]

except the press has footage from Wednesday showing the mustang in the driveway.

Does it? Is there a date stamped link somewhere that I have missed?

no mix up!
https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1439593822506340353?s=20

Thanks. I am not convinced between the conflicting stories. One reporter (for ABC7) saying one thing, this guy saying something else. Both of them at the scene.

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

Yes. Depending on autopsy and investigation of crime scene results, there may be no usable evidence that BL killed GP.

He could say she told him to leave. So he did. Could say she told him he could take the van back to FL in a given time. So he returned to get van and did so. The DA is going to have to prove with hard evidence that BL did it if that’s what they believe snd it might not hold up in court. Remember, he died not have to say a thing. Doesn’t have to answer any questions. And if there is a possible other scenario that physically could have happened, there may not be a case strong enough to indict him, much less convict him

I feel that without forensics in terms of actual DNA, the DA are really going to have their work cut out with this case.

Also, as they were in a relationship, the defence could maybe excuse away some DNA transfer on that basis too.

 

[JurassicParker]

I've heard a couple of different times that there were siting's of BL outside of FL. Do we know if there have been any credible siting's of him? I can't see him turning himself in. He's made it this far with total silence, I don't see why that would change. So my guess is that he is in fact on the run. Hopefully border patrol has photos of him. They need to be on the look out for him changing his appearance too. I hope he is taken in soon. Gabby and her family need justice and full closure.

 

[Here_I_Am]

Police shouldn't be beyond criticism. The NPPD has been highly confusing in their approach.

1. They say that there is no criminal investigation and thus they cannot get search warrants.

According to the Legal Information Institute: "Probable cause exists when there is a fair probability that a search will result in evidence of a crime being discovered." So you don't need to know a crime has happened and you don't need an active criminal investigation. You just need a fair probability that evidence of a crime will be discovered. A man embarked on a four-month roadtrip with his girlfriend in a van owned by her. He arrived at their home two months early, with her van but without her. He didn't notify her family or police of anything unusual or that she was missing. Her family lost contact with her weeks ago. That is assuredly enough for a search warrant although probably not enough for an arrest warrant.

2. The say that there is no criminal investigation, yet they named Brian Laundrie as a "person of interest."

How can someone be a perosn of interest if you're simultaenously claiming that no crime has actually occurred? If you're confident enough to name someone a POI for a crime that doesn't even exist yet, you have enough for warrants.

3. They've devoted a huge amount of resources towards finding Brian Laundrie, even though he's an adult and he's not wanted for a crime. If the lack of a crime was enough to hamper the search for Gabby, then why are they searching for Brian? He isn't wanted for a crime and he can do whatever he wants, right?

4. They allowed the POI to get away, despite confidently assuring everyone who would listen that they knew exactly where he was.

 

[Michelleruby]

If someone told you a story about a couple who went travelling across the country, the guy with a history of being controlling and jealous, the girl seen to be crying uncontrollably when they are stopped by police after a domestic disturbance that became physical, and then the guy suddenly arrives home without the girl, no one can contact or find her, he lawyers up and won’t speak to police before disappearing himself, and then the girl’s body is found back near their campsite… would anyone really say “gee I wonder how she died, maybe an accident?”
JMO he’s running due to not wanting to face the consequences of his actions.

 

[Yellow Rose]

I think the FBI confirmed it was her, didn’t they? Later last night.

EDIT: I’m making this up apparently! But I don’t think they would act as confident if there wasn’t some indication that was assuredly her.

I read somewhere that they matched her tattoos. It's Gabby for sure.

Yesterday someone mentioned it was about 1000 yards, which is approx 1/2 mile. I can't find the post, but someone posted an aerial view showing the 2 locations.

That was about 2000 yards per my question to the map poster.

 

[indicolite22]

I find it really surprising no one remembers seeing him, crossing paths on any of the days on the trip back to Florida or since arrival

I'm sure he was likely caught on gas station surveillance somewhere along the way.

 

[mym]

I don't know if this has been asked but do we have a pin point of where the van was last seen (the couples youtube video) and where Gabby was found?

This is my guess.
"Tent" refers to the forensics canopy tent the FBI set up yesterday.

 

[Dutcher]

I think you’re off a bit. check out @brokensafety post #562 in thread #15.

Ah, that could be the spot. Would make a lot more sense in terms of distance to the van.

Thank you, I was having a hard time figuring out the camera angles, with the river sometimes below and sometimes above the search crew!

 

[GRT]

I think Brian pulled the old, "If I can't have you, nobody can," trick.

All the things Gabby said to the cops, taking all the blame, I'm guessing that wasn't the first time--I'm guessing he made her take the blame for arguments when they were living with his parents, too.

And, rather than indicating that she wanted to get away from him -- she says she's afraid he'll leave her.

I think their fights were about her wanting to break up. But, she was afraid of him so she said the opposite to others in order to gain his trust--protect herself. Like hollering to the lady in the store that "We're engaged." I think that was to appease Brian. But, I also think he was starting to see the handwriting on the wall and he knew she would eventually leave him.

JMOO

 

[oviedo]

I’m also in Florida and it rained here on and off. The clouds and thunder started to roll in around 4 pm and by the time I finished dinner at 6 it was getting ready to rain. By 630 it was pouring.

Yes and where I am the clouds and thunderstorms made it dark by 6pm.. it was terrible weather

 

[Cedar Sherwood]

I want to make this clear because it goes to the character of DL.
Florida is not on the AT . There is some trail or other that you can take down to Florida, but it is not under the purview of the Appalachian Trail Conservancy. It has never been called the AT. Even thruhikers who extend their hike from the AT down to Florida don’t call anything south of Springer the AT. It is not on official maps of the AT.
I am making this doubly clear, because IMO DL made up a lot of stuff about himself. I would venture to bet it’s a hallmark of his personality. Call it swagger, fantasy, delusion, grandiosity, or something darker, nothing is believable. Same with his parents.

I am well acquainted with the AT. That's why his Instagram post caught my attention.

I've read all of Brian's posts and don't understand why you feel he "made up a lot of stuff about himself."

To then extend that declaration to his parents is uncalled for.

Florida has a trail system that is well known and connects to the AT terminus. When you're on the trail, you'll hear people talking about hiking down into Florida. I see you're recognized here as an outdoor recreation specialist, and you said you lived on the trail for six months. I can't speak to your experiences, only mine, and that's exactly what I'm doing.

But let's take things back to your first sentence. You're reading between the lines and making assumptions. Brian never said that the AT extends into Florida, nor did I say or imply that he said this. That comment was coming from me in my post.

And so here you are, speaking to the "character of DL" (it's BL) and blowing this up into something it most certainly is not, quite unfairly.

 

[wnk]

I updated the Google map yesterday with the approximate location where they recovered the body, based on aerial footage. It's about 900 feet (300 yards) away from where the van was spotted.

There was no place to set up camp up by their van, so I wonder if they'd pitched their tent down on that opposite side of the creek bed.