CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #66

[iamshadow21]

-- Dr. Lewis wants the Prosecutor to look (where and how) into LS's doctorate because it was an internet course by Coursera (?).

And she doesn't consider LS being married twice to unpleasant, less than human persons a victory!

Coursera | Degrees, Certificates, & Free Online Courses

Learn new job skills in online courses from industry leaders like Google, IBM, & Meta. Advance your career with top degrees from Michigan, Penn, Imperial & more.

www.coursera.org

Yep, everyone on both sides of this case has been dancing around LS's qualifications, very carefully not questioning their legitimacy, and Dr. Lewis doesn't just say 'but she bought it off the internet', she EXPOUNDS on it for several minutes.

MOO

 

[Megnut]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1653598825679028224

Pretty sure T is stupid. In English, Spanish and Russian. What T lacks in smarts she makes up for in cunning. And that's not a compliment.

One of the hallmarks of intelligence IMO is the awareness of relativity. Even the smartest people recognize there are others who are still smarter. Maybe Stephen Hawking tops the smart pyramind but I bet even he bowed to the genius of the universe. Only an idiot would think she is smarter than everyone!

T was communicating throughout the horrifying assault on Gannon. Texting, talking, buying dog outfits, turning Laina away. T must have one of those rare cases of DID where the personas/personalities she made up get along and work together so well that they're -- welp -- integrated. You know, into one. Which is the opposite of dissociative. Just the one of you, T.

And that's plenty.

That T thinks her Ttales are credible, that's not smart (that's just stupid). It's not even delusional. It's just inflated. I like made-up me better than my dull self.

Hates her name. Probably hates herself. The very bench that narcissism sits its big fat bum upon.

Prison will look good on her.

Jmo

 

[GoJacks]

-- Dr. Lewis wants the Prosecutor to look (where and how) into LS's doctorate because it was an internet course by Coursera (?).

And she doesn't consider LS being married twice to unpleasant, less than human persons a victory!

Coursera | Degrees, Certificates, & Free Online Courses

Learn new job skills in online courses from industry leaders like Google, IBM, & Meta. Advance your career with top degrees from Michigan, Penn, Imperial & more.

www.coursera.org

Coursera is actually "legit" place to get certificates never heard of them offering online degrees....went and looked during her testimony and there is a section about online degrees, but it looks like it only suggests universities (maybe I'm reading this wrong?) Also the highest is masters, and I couldn't even find anything in education.

I'm of the belief at this point Letecia made all this up. Like I don't even think she did an online degree or even paid for a fake diploma. She probably made herself one in ms paint and called it a day.

Honestly if I had to take a bet on it she even had a bachelor's, I'd probably say no at this point.

 

[RaspberryMama]

Dr. Lewis was there today to talk about herself and her pet disorder - DID. She barely mentioned Gannon. She talked about T with glowing admiration ("a smart girl" WTH?), diagnosed her without knowing Colorado's definition of insane, and despite not having what she admittedly required to have in order to make an educated decision. She submitted her report, which may have actually just been an initial impression description, LATE (and in fact may not have been written by her at all); came to court late... twice; met in secret with the defendant for 3 hours a couple of days ago; allows the defense attorney to sit in on her sessions; accuses the other two experts of being biased; and calls Al and Harley's dad unloving terrible people. What in the actual world is going on?!

I cheered when the prosecutor didn't allow her to finish an irrelevant story.

Dear Dr. Lewis,

Al did not abuse and murder a child, desecrate his body, hide evidence, tell lie after lie, after lie, sit in the courtroom and giggle, or any of the myriad of monstrous things T has done. Al is NOT the horrible person in this story. Not by a long shot.


So, does anyone think the state still intends to call rebuttal witnesses?

 

[Cindizzi]

Coursera is actually "legit" place to get certificates never heard of them offering online degrees....went and looked during her testimony and there is a section about online degrees, but it looks like it only suggests universities (maybe I'm reading this wrong?) Also the highest is masters, and I couldn't even find anything in education.

I'm of the belief at this point Letecia made all this up. Like I don't even think she did an online degree or even paid for a fake diploma. She probably made herself one in ms paint and called it a day.

Honestly if I had to take a bet on it she even had a bachelor's, I'd probably say no at this point.

I wonder if Dr. Lewis confused Coursera with Capella which is the school LS claimed in her LinkedIn.

(And School District 49 made a statement that she never worked for them in any capacity.)

 

[Ravenmoon]

Took me forever to watch the nightmare that was testimony today. I hope you all bear with me.

First, how amazing is it that the first defense witness become a prosecution witness.

Second, I was blown away that the Dr. Lewis testimony got a major blow when she remarks about "your doctors" implying that the previous sanity testimony was biased. AND, then, she is blindsided that her own legal team withdrew their request for the MRI and scans that she had told them she needed in order make a dx.

Third, she was outed as usually defining the legal definition in the jurisdiction for insanity and did not do that here in this case with an inference that the legal team did not want or need it.

OMG, today was a nightmare. I feel for this doctor. This trial and this defendant is way beyond her capabilities because of the complex lies and deceit of TS. They have not even asked her about the internet searches that TS did while in CO and SC on her phones, clearly looking for an out or someone who would be willing to go to jail for her.

Dr. Lewis is stuck in a hotel with her 100 lb valise, no one to talk to, and with more than a few dozen eggs on her face. She must be devastated that her long career will be pitted by this trial and this woman.

*CHOICES*









JMO

 

[GoJacks]

Dr. Lewis was there today to talk about herself and her pet disorder - DID. She barely mentioned Gannon. She talked about T with glowing admiration ("a smart girl" WTH?), diagnosed her without knowing Colorado's definition of insane, and despite not having what she admittedly required to have in order to make an educated decision. She submitted her report, which may have actually just been an initial impression description, LATE (and in fact may not have been written by her at all); came to court late... twice; met in secret with the defendant for 3 hours a couple of days ago; allows the defense attorney to sit in on her sessions; accuses the other two experts of being biased; and calls Al and Harley's dad unloving terrible people. What in the actual world is going on?!

I cheered when the prosecutor didn't allow her to finish an irrelevant story.

Dear Dr. Lewis,

Al did not abuse and murder a child, desecrate his body, hide evidence, tell lie after lie, after lie, sit in the courtroom and giggle, or any of the myriad of monstrous things T has done. Al is NOT the horrible person in this story. Not by a long shot.


So, does anyone think the state still intends to call rebuttal witnesses?

Honestly after Dr. Lewis gushed about how intelligent LS was early on in testimony, It should have been a heads up for all of us of what was about to come.

I kept saying to myself, what is her standard of intelligence because I just don't see it. Certainly a dumb criminal. Then she admitted out of her own mouth she thought her degrees were fake. What areas of intelligence we talking about?

 

[iamshadow21]

So, does anyone think the state still intends to call rebuttal witnesses?

RSBM

I think Dr Lewis is doing a pretty stellar job at discrediting herself, but who knows. My head is spinning.

MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Coursera is actually "legit" place to get certificates never heard of them offering online degrees....went and looked during her testimony and there is a section about online degrees, but it looks like it only suggests universities (maybe I'm reading this wrong?) Also the highest is masters, and I couldn't even find anything in education.

I'm of the belief at this point Letecia made all this up. Like I don't even think she did an online degree or even paid for a fake diploma. She probably made herself one in ms paint and called it a day.

Honestly if I had to take a bet on it she even had a bachelor's, I'd probably say no at this point.

Perhaps it's similar to how LS shopped the mental diagnosis aisle looking for the DSM-5, she found an entity that participated in military education programs for spouses and dependents.

Dr. Lewis certainly didn't want to credit LS with being capable of earning a "real doctorate" or being in a "real marriage."

 

[GoJacks]

I wonder if Dr. Lewis confused Coursera with Capella which is the school LS claimed in her LinkedIn.

(And School District 49 made a statement that she never worked for them in any capacity.)

View attachment 419114View attachment 419115

That makes more sense.

Cant go to NC state games because they're red and black...but can allegedly get her master's from a school with red & black as their colors. Interesting.

 

[iamshadow21]

That makes more sense.

Cant go to NC state games because they're red and black...but can allegedly get her master's from a school with red & black as their colors. Interesting.

Weren't.... The cars... They both drove.... And parked in their driveway and garage ... Red and black? How did she even leave the house?

*brain explodes*

MOO

 

[Blondiexoxo]

Well that testimony really didn’t hit in the way the defence planned did it?
I’m not doubting T is mentally ill, I think that’s been made pretty clear over the last 3 years. But many people are mentally ill, it does not excuse you of culpability unless you fit the legal definition in that state. It has less to do with whether she has DID and more to do with whether she ‘qualifies’ as insane in Colorado - newsflash she does not IMO.

Dr Lewis may have experience in speaking with criminals, however she is not a forensic psychiatrist and clearly does not grasp that many who speak with her will be doing anything and everything to get her to agree they are insane. Clinical psychiatry is a similar field and will touch on crime, however it won’t go into as much depth on law or the courts.

Did you hear the prosecution ask her if she’s ever found someone to be sane at the time of the crime? And all she could think of was one person? In her field of work she will have come across more people that were actually sane than not. She will have come across more malingerers than genuinely legally insane. But she clearly doesn’t have the training (or recent enough training) to recognise a malingerer from genuine mental illness.

If I misheard and she actually is qualified in forensic psychiatry then I’m even more shocked by how terrible her testimony was! But from what I heard she is a clinical and not forensic psychiatrist, and IMO it is very different to diagnose someone in a clinical context than forensic. You have to know your laws aswell as understand the criminal psyche.

Unfortunately for the defense, it’s obvious that no forensic psychiatrist who values their qualifications would testify to T being legally insane. By the way clinical psychiatry is still a fascinating field, I’m not knocking it atall and there are some excellent clinical psychiatrists who are able to testify in court successfully and explain their findings and how they relate to the defendant and the law. But there is a reason you see more forensic psychiatrists that clinical testifying in court. When called as an expert witness you have to be confident in what you are testifying, you need to know your stuff and be unwavering when cross examined. Plenty of clinical psychiatrists are able to do this very well. Sadly for the defense Dr Lewis is not one of them.

Compare her testimony to Dr Torres - Forensic Psychologist for the prosecution and there’s no comparison.

All JMO

 

[KooshBall]

Thank you for all the updates. I start reading as soon as I get home from work. The career of Dr Lewis appears to be one big grift imo. There is no amount of money in the world that would have me defending a child killer, especially if I knew there wasn't enough evidence to truly give the DID diagnosis that I was claiming. It amazes me the things people can do and still look themselves in the mirror, where is the integrity?

 

[Marie Bell]

It really rubbed me the wrong way how the Doctor said such vile things about LS's first husband and AS. She has never met them, and is taking a pathological liars word about them.

I agree. At first I was just disgusted that she was saying such things as a result of taking LS's account at face value. But later it hit me that what had really shocked me was the fact that she didn't even have the grace to realise that AL is the bereaved father, and that he, alongside the mother of Gannon, and other family members, are in the courtroom, having to endure this trial because of the appalling murder committed by LS. She (Lewis) is actually one disgusting human being, in my view. The narcissism is off the charts.

 

[Marie Bell]

Thank you for all the updates. I start reading as soon as I get home from work. The career of Dr Lewis appears to be one big grift imo. There is no amount of money in the world that would have me defending a child killer, especially if I knew there wasn't enough evidence to truly give the DID diagnosis that I was claiming. It amazes me the things people can do and still look themselves in the mirror, where is the integrity?

From the bits I had read about her in advance of yesterday I had formed the impression that, although her career seems to have been built on making what I consider to be a bogus/quack diagnosis, it was fairly *benign*. I gathered that she was mostly involved in trying to save people from the death penalty; which isn't so bad - she wouldn't be the only one who takes that position re the DP, and even where she's successful the result is not going to create any danger. After today I think of her as a whole blob of evil personified.

 

[pizzawonder]

Long time lurker and yesterday in this trial is what's getting a first post from me.
What in the absolute world!?!?
Letecia is DONE if these are the only defense witnesses, and it is giving me so much life.

Also, even though Albert is someone I probably wouldn't be friends with, it became so clear to me through this trial how much he loves his babies and would do anything for them. He chose Gannon without even thinking about it because that's what you do when that's your baby. He knew that Gannon had died almost immediately and had to deal with that on his own while working with the FBI to recover him and that's amazingly strong. No matter what I may think of him otherwise, it's clear that he deeply loves his kids and is a good parent and I respect him for that. So it really raises my hackles when he is vilified. God forbid a loving father have a job he has to travel for!

All MOO IMO

 

[LostOldUserName]

Long time lurker and yesterday in this trial is what's getting a first post from me.
What in the absolute world!?!?
Letecia is DONE if these are the only defense witnesses, and it is giving me so much life.

Also, even though Albert is someone I probably wouldn't be friends with, it became so clear to me through this trial how much he loves his babies and would do anything for them. He chose Gannon without even thinking about it because that's what you do when that's your baby. He knew that Gannon had died almost immediately and had to deal with that on his own while working with the FBI to recover him and that's amazingly strong. No matter what I may think of him otherwise, it's clear that he deeply loves his kids and is a good parent and I respect him for that. So it really raises my hackles when he is vilified. God forbid a loving father have a job he has to travel for!

All MOO IMO

I agree and welcome to WS!

 

[Niner]

Wednesday, May 3rd:
*Trial continues (Day 19) (@ 9am MT) – CO – Gannon Jacob Stauch (11) (reported missing Jan. 27, 2020, Colorado Springs; found in a suitcase along the Escambia River Bridge (on US90) on Mar. 17, 2020 in Pace, FL., Santa Rosa County; ID’d on June 6, 2020) – *Letecia Lynn (or Leann) Stauch (36/now 39) akas Letecia “Tecia” Lynn Hardin (maiden name) & Letecia Lynn Hunt (1st married name), Tiffany Taylor Stauch & Taylor Swift arrested (in Myrtle Beach, S.C. on 3/2/20) & advised of charges (3/5/20) & charged (3/11/20 & re-filed 3/20/20) & arraigned (11/4/21) with 2 counts of 1st degree felony murder (after intent & deliberation), 2nd degree felony child abuse resulting in death (this count dismissed on 4/3/23), 3rd degree felony tampering with deceased human body, 6th degree felony tampering with physical evidence & 8 counts of crime of violence (special enhancer: firearm, blunt instrument, knife or sharp instrument & causing the death of Gannon). Held without bond. Plead not guilty. On 2/11/22 changed plea to not guilty by reason of insanity. (for original charges (3/5/20) see post 362 page 19 of thread #54).
*Charged (filed 5/20/20) & charged (6/5/20) with solicitation to commit escape. $2K bond. Plead not guilty.
Stauch faces a second case in which she is accused of attempting to escape from the El Paso County jail in May 2020. The second case against Stauch is on hold until the completion of the 1st degree murder trial.
Trial began on 3/20/23 with jury selection & ended on 4/3/23 for final jury selection with 11 men & 7 women. 12 jurors & 6 alternates. 4/17/23: Juror 12 dismissed. 11 men & 6 women. 12 jurors & 5 alternates.
Trial began on 4/3/23 with opening statements. Prosecution rested their case on 5/2/23. Defense started their case on 5/2/23.
Trial will be from 9am to 5pm on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday & Friday each week.
No Trial on Thursdays as Judge has other commitments.
No trial on 5/12/23.
Case & court info from 3/2/20 to 3/20/23 & Jury Selection Day 1-7 (3/20-4/3/23) & Trial Day 1-17 (4/3-5/1/23) reference post #355 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...so-county-27-jan-2020-arrest-65.676286/page-2
5/2/23 Tuesday, Trial Day 18: Prosecutor DA Michael Allen rested their case.
Defense witness: Dr. Ronda Niederhauser, a clinical psychologist employed at a primary care clinic.
For more info see posts #647 & 648 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...ia-maps-timeline-no-discussion.500902/page-33
Defense witness: Dr Dorothy Otnow Lewis.
For more info see posts #649 to 652 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...ia-maps-timeline-no-discussion.500902/page-33
Trial continues at 9am on Wednesday, 5/3/23. Judge informs court closed agreements will begin on Friday, 5/5/23.

 

[tmar]

Long time lurker and yesterday in this trial is what's getting a first post from me.
What in the absolute world!?!?
Letecia is DONE if these are the only defense witnesses, and it is giving me so much life.

Also, even though Albert is someone I probably wouldn't be friends with, it became so clear to me through this trial how much he loves his babies and would do anything for them. He chose Gannon without even thinking about it because that's what you do when that's your baby. He knew that Gannon had died almost immediately and had to deal with that on his own while working with the FBI to recover him and that's amazingly strong. No matter what I may think of him otherwise, it's clear that he deeply loves his kids and is a good parent and I respect him for that. So it really raises my hackles when he is vilified. God forbid a loving father have a job he has to travel for!

All MOO IMO

Welcome, with your first post @pizzawonder.
This Defence expert (whom we will remember) will help add nails to LS's coffin.
I guess Dr Lewis will have a sleepless night, and may be late again tomorrow.

 

[Seattle1]

IMO, the HBO documentary about a contrary woman pushing a contrary diagnosis was a nice tribute to a long career, and Dr. Lewis should have ridden the wave and enjoyed the ride.

Selfish to accept a job that she couldn't give the time and attention necessary for a professional presentation to the jurors. She shat the bed and too late to recover. JMO