Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #56

[pernickety]

I wonder what the likelihood is that MT is doing this with the knowledge and encouragement of her attorney? It doesn’t seem possible that he doesn’t know, so he must be on board, right? What could the goal be? I mean, it doesn’t make her look like a sympathetic character, and certainly does not make her appear to be appalled by what clearly happened to JF. If you suppose for a moment that FD did it all on his own, without any hint of knowledge or assistance by MT, you wouldn’t expect her to be so full of venom for JF, would you? And with one of her latest tweets, it appears that she is still attempting to say that JF harmed herself. She’s trying to get FD off the hook, posthumously, too. Now, why would that be? Maybe because if he was involved, then so was she, based on what the police have found.

FD's suicide note said that neither MT nor KM was involved in JD's murder. I recall it was Colangelo who said that statement showed FD knew who killed JD. But then FD also claimed in his note that he wasn't involved and that his lawyer would prove that. Atty NP then claimed (after FD's death) that the items with JD's blood on them were found by FD on his porch and FD felt someone was trying to frame him, so that's why he was disposing of it in Hartford. I recall LE said they found MT's finger prints on one of the bags.

I don't recall if any of JD's blood was found in her Suburban that was left near Waveny Park. If JD shed a large quantity of blood in her garage, and supposedly then drove to Waveny to fake her kidnapping, why no blood in the Suburban? But if FD drove her there in the Suburban, she must have been well-wrapped and presumably dead at that point?

 

[Megnut]

FD's suicide note said that neither MT nor KM was involved in JD's murder. I recall it was Colangelo who said that statement showed FD knew who killed JD. But then FD also claimed in his note that he wasn't involved and that his lawyer would prove that. Atty NP then claimed (after FD's death) that the items with JD's blood on them were found by FD on his porch and FD felt someone was trying to frame him, so that's why he was disposing of it in Hartford. I recall LE said they found MT's finger prints on one of the bags.

I don't recall if any of JD's blood was found in her Suburban that was left near Waveny Park. If JD shed a large quantity of blood in her garage, and supposedly then drove to Waveny to fake her kidnapping, why no blood in the Suburban? But if FD drove her there in the Suburban, she must have been well-wrapped and presumably dead at that point?

IIRC there was blood on the exterior and underside of her Suburban.... and the liner/rug was missing, later identified on CCTV where FD stood it up alongside a business in Albany.

Can't help but to wonder what route her remains took, how FD transferred the bags from the Suburban to the truck, and how FD retrieved his bicycle.

I think he had help.

Jmo

 

[pernickety]

IIRC there was blood on the exterior and underside of her Suburban.... and the liner/rug was missing, later identified on CCTV where FD stood it up alongside a business in Albany.

Can't help but to wonder what route her remains took, how FD transferred the bags from the Suburban to the truck, and how FD retrieved his bicycle.

I think he had help.

Jmo

I think he had help, too. LE identified the unique European bike by an impression of the insignia on a piece of duct tape?

 

[Megnut]

I think he had help, too. LE identified the unique European bike by an impression of the insignia on a piece of duct tape?

Fuzzy on the detsils.... didn't LE recover the emblem?

My monkey money's on a second Suburban in play that day. And duelling Thules.

JMO

 

[Jmoose]

FD's suicide note said that neither MT nor KM was involved in JD's murder. I recall it was Colangelo who said that statement showed FD knew who killed JD. But then FD also claimed in his note that he wasn't involved and that his lawyer would prove that. Atty NP then claimed (after FD's death) that the items with JD's blood on them were found by FD on his porch and FD felt someone was trying to frame him, so that's why he was disposing of it in Hartford. I recall LE said they found MT's finger prints on one of the bags.

I don't recall if any of JD's blood was found in her Suburban that was left near Waveny Park. If JD shed a large quantity of blood in her garage, and supposedly then drove to Waveny to fake her kidnapping, why no blood in the Suburban? But if FD drove her there in the Suburban, she must have been well-wrapped and presumably dead at that point?

FD did not explain in his suicide note how he obtained the weather tec mat from Jennifer’s suburban, which they saw him discard in Hartford-it would have been too big to go into one of the “bags left on his porch by the real killer”. FD surely did know who killed Jennifer, and who helped him. And MT knows that the only way she isn’t connected, is if he isn’t. At least, this is my own personal opinion-It’s not evidence of wrongdoing, but the fact that MT was lying for him proves that she knew something, because a person who knew nothing, wouldn’t know that she had to lie-she would have told the truth from the start.

 

[Jmoose]

Fuzzy on the detsils.... didn't LE recover the emblem?

My monkey money's on a second Suburban in play that day. And duelling Thules.

JMO

Yes-that front metal plaque that goes on the front of a bike was recovered. They had Dulos dead to rights on this murder, and he knew it. That’s why he checked himself out. Funny that he claimed someone was trying to frame HIM, when he was actually, I believe, trying to frame his employee.

 

[Megnut]

So.... how did he get his bike back?

I suggest he met Suburban #2 on a back street where FD recovered his bike and transferred a body before parking her Suburban at Waveny.

Why did he transfer bags from the Suburban to the Tacoma? I assume he did and that's how leaking fluids stained the seat....

Did he walk from the Suburban to the Tacoma carrying trash bags? If only bus cam captured that.

jmo

 

[Jmoose]

So.... how did he get his bike back?

I suggest he met Suburban #2 on a back street where FD recovered his bike and transferred a body before parking her Suburban at Waveny.

Why did he transfer bags from the Suburban to the Tacoma? I assume he did and that's how leaking fluids stained the seat....

Did he walk from the Suburban to the Tacoma carrying trash bags? If only bus cam captured that.

jmo

He probably threw it into Jennifer’s Suburban, on top of her, after throwing her into the back. Because it definitely made it back into PG’s Tacoma truck.

 

[Megnut]

Yes but I don't think he transferred a body in broad daylight.

 

[Jmoose]

So.... how did he get his bike back?

I suggest he met Suburban #2 on a back street where FD recovered his bike and transferred a body before parking her Suburban at Waveny.

Why did he transfer bags from the Suburban to the Tacoma? I assume he did and that's how leaking fluids stained the seat....

Did he walk from the Suburban to the Tacoma carrying trash bags? If only bus cam captured that.

jmo

If you mean, why did he transport the body back to Farmington instead of just leaving it in the Suburban, at Waveny…he probably thought he needed to get rid of the body, so he would be less likely to be implicated. And in theory, he was probably right. But as we know now, her body isn’t what tripped him up-it was the activity on Albany avenue, and the fact that they brought their cellphones with them. Think of it-he could have gotten back to Farmington with zero blood in PG’s truck, no need to have it detailed or seats changed, if he didn’t transport her body. They wouldn’t have found her body any sooner than they found her car. They could have gone to-well, anywhere they wanted, with their cellphones that night and just be seen going into Starbucks. But he didn’t do that. He wouldn’t have needed to destroy his bike-he could have put it back up on the wall in the garage. Hindsight’s 20/20, though-and I do wonder what other evidence he got rid of, that made it necessary for him to bring her body back to Farmington? Were they always planning the “Gone Girl” defense? Maybe so, but there ended up being too much blood.

 

[Megnut]

I think he only intended for an abduction to take place at her house. Zip ties.

I think the plan was to deliver her to the second vehicle, drive clean to Waveny, leave the Suburban, drive the Tacoma to the next point of rendezvous.

So my question is, where was her body while he was swapping cars?

 

[Jmoose]

I think he only intended for an abduction to take place at her house. Zip ties.

I think the plan was to deliver her to the second vehicle, drive clean to Waveny, leave the Suburban, drive the Tacoma to the next point of rendezvous.

So my question is, where was her body while he was swapping cars?

I have always thought that he just grabbed her from one and moved her to the other, in broad daylight, assuming that nobody would be paying attention. And if he did it that way, they weren’t paying attention, because nobody claimed to have seen this exchange, as far as we know. So that’s my assumption, but I could be way off. I have a feeling that KM could also have been in New Canaan that day, but I have no good reason to say this, except that his phone was conveniently “broken” before the cops got ahold of it, and he conveniently had a concussion (that no medical professional diagnosed), so he couldn’t recall anything.

So what do you supposed would have been the plan subsequent to an abduction-was murder on the table, or a consequence of Jennifer fighting back?

 

[Jmoose]

I think he only intended for an abduction to take place at her house. Zip ties.

I think the plan was to deliver her to the second vehicle, drive clean to Waveny, leave the Suburban, drive the Tacoma to the next point of rendezvous.

So my question is, where was her body while he was swapping cars?

I have always thought that he just grabbed her from one and moved her to the other, in broad daylight, assuming that nobody would be paying attention. And if he did it that way, they weren’t paying attention, because nobody claimed to have seen this exchange, as far as we know. So that’s my assumption, but I could be way off. I have a feeling that KM could also have been in New Canaan that day, but I have no good reason to say this, except that his phone was conveniently “broken” before the cops got ahold of it, and he conveniently had a concussion (that no medical professional diagnosed), so he couldn’t recall anything.

So what do you supposed would have been the plan subsequent to an abduction-was murder on the table, or a consequence of Jennifer fighting back

 

[Megnut]

I have always thought that he just grabbed her from one and moved her to the other, in broad daylight, assuming that nobody would be paying attention. And if he did it that way, they weren’t paying attention, because nobody claimed to have seen this exchange, as far as we know. So that’s my assumption, but I could be way off. I have a feeling that KM could also have been in New Canaan that day, but I have no good reason to say this, except that his phone was conveniently “broken” before the cops got ahold of it, and he conveniently had a concussion (that no medical professional diagnosed), so he couldn’t recall anything.

So what do you supposed would have been the plan subsequent to an abduction-was murder on the table, or a consequence of Jennifer fighting back?

Perfect Crime.

Abduct her in her own vehicle.

Leave her vehicle at the park.

Have an alibi.

It was a shell game. Moving phones and cars.

But here's the thing -- if KM WASN'T involved in the events of the morning, what need for the meeting the night before? I think it was a review and an exchange of burned phones so they could communicate in cognitive.

I don't think KM was at 4J that morning. Just his phone.

Jmo

 

[Jmoose]

Perfect Crime.

Abduct her in her own vehicle.

Leave her vehicle at the park.

Have an alibi.

It was a shell game. Moving phones and cars.

But here's the thing -- if KM WASN'T involved in the events of the morning, what need for the meeting the night before? I think it was a review and an exchange of burned phones so they could communicate in cognitive.

I don't think KM was at 4J that morning. Just his phone.

Jmo

Yes, I don’t think KM was there, either. Nobody was there except MT, prior to her leaving to create an alibi for herself.

 

[Laughing]

I think he only intended for an abduction to take place at her house. Zip ties.

I think the plan was to deliver her to the second vehicle, drive clean to Waveny, leave the Suburban, drive the Tacoma to the next point of rendezvous.

So my question is, where was her body while he was swapping cars?

rbbm

imho, in either of the 6' long Thule ski boxes.

Now at his thrifty height, fD might need a ladder to achieve this, but he worked out so likely had the upper body strength.

KM looks, well, sorry, rather doughy & not physically strong.

MT? Water skiing, snow skiing, seriously working horses -- yeah upper body strength. Back in the day, I worked horses and could pick up a bail of hay in each hand & lift both over the side of a pickup truck.

High quality alfalfa, 2 bails combined was more than my body weight at the time. Kinda miss the size 4 clothes, but not often!


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[Jmoose]

rbbm

imho, in either of the 6' long Thule ski boxes.

Now at his thrifty height, fD might need a ladder to achieve this, but he worked out so likely had the upper body strength.

KM looks, well, sorry, rather doughy & not physically strong.

MT? Water skiing, snow skiing, seriously working horses -- yeah upper body strength. Back in the day, I worked horses and could pick up a bail of hay in each hand & lift both over the side of a pickup truck.

High quality alfalfa, 2 bails combined was more than my body weight at the time. Kinda miss the size 4 clothes, but not often!

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jmho ymmv lrr

Ha ha-same here, re: working with horses. And I howled at “thrifty height”!

 

[Megnut]

Would a Thule fit inside a Suburban?

 

[Jmoose]

Would a Thule fit inside a Suburban?

Yes-Suburbans are 3-seaters, with plenty of room for a Thule. Thanks for the reminder about the Thule-I’d forgotten about that.

 

[Laughing]

Ha ha-same here, re: working with horses. And I howled at “thrifty height”!

Otherss involved seem to have thrifty common sense & thriftier common decency.

With thrifty ties to Connecticut imho.

jmho ymmv lrr