Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Keep it as a thought]

First time poster so be gentle, and I apologize if someone has already speculated on this or if my speculation isn’t allowed. Re JM or anyone who has publicly inserted themselves into the media conversation by locating themselves near dear NG’s, it occurred to me that this could be to provide an alibi should their DNA be found near the scene. A covering of bases approach. Might also be why some on here have suggested shoes being worn looking similar to those in video - in case a positive match was found it would, again, provide a rationale. “Of course there’s a match, I have been present here trying to help etc, etc”. Still hoping for resolution, this case has left me heartbroken for her beloved family. MOO

 

[RedHaus]

First time poster so be gentle, and I apologize if someone has already speculated on this or if my speculation isn’t allowed. Re JM or anyone who has publicly inserted themselves into the media conversation by locating themselves near dear NG’s, it occurred to me that this could be to provide an alibi should their DNA be found near the scene. A covering of bases approach. Might also be why some on here have suggested shoes being worn looking similar to those in video - in case a positive match was found it would, again, provide a rationale. “Of course there’s a match, I have been present here trying to help etc, etc”. Still hoping for resolution, this case has left me heartbroken for her beloved family. MOO

Welcome to Websleuths, @Keep it as a thought!

 

[Winter67]

First time poster so be gentle, and I apologize if someone has already speculated on this or if my speculation isn’t allowed. Re JM or anyone who has publicly inserted themselves into the media conversation by locating themselves near dear NG’s, it occurred to me that this could be to provide an alibi should their DNA be found near the scene. A covering of bases approach. Might also be why some on here have suggested shoes being worn looking similar to those in video - in case a positive match was found it would, again, provide a rationale. “Of course there’s a match, I have been present here trying to help etc, etc”. Still hoping for resolution, this case has left me heartbroken for her beloved family. MOO

You never know what people here come up with and all good points. That's why I love this forum. Someone from here long ago pointed out the ring. Saw it first and now all over the news. It's a puzzle that's for sure.

 

[FromGermany1]

The Olympics will end on Febr 22nd - will Nancy be given back to her daughter S then?

 

[Bluewing3102]

Anyone who's listening to scanners know what's going on in Tucson right now?

 

[Kemug]

After nearly 3 weeks, as Manuel in "Faulty Towers" used to say, "I know narthing"!

 

[Turkeytrot]

Anyone who's listening to scanners know what's going on in Tucson right now?

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Hmm. I tried to tune in to the Tucson PD feed and it says online but won't connect for me.

Edit - got it to connect after closing out and loading back in

 

[watson1]

Anyone who's listening to scanners know what's going on in Tucson right now?

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in my opinion, they may have been keeping an eye on someone's movements. the flight circled around the river road area, then down oracle road, then circled around 2 other areas. altitude stayed mostly between 3000-3700 feet - too high to be doing sniffer checks for NG's pacemaker. fwiw my guess is they were keeping eyes on. MOO. https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N305PD

 

[snarast]

If the kidnapping is aimed toward S he/they might want to reach out to her somehow.

 

[LRinCA]

Oh I agree.

First disposal choice would be the desert. But if the perp had some desperate and delusional intent to take his life with NG's to hurt SG, then lake. IMO.

He/she would have to drive quite a distance to find a lake. IMO/JMO.

One time my husband and I drove from Las Cruces, NM back to the Phoenix area via a very deserted southern route (backroads) that dropped down from west of Lordsburg (NM) and went through Douglas (AZ), Bisbee (AZ), Tombstone (AZ) and then up to Tucson and back home. The area was so desolate. Miles and miles without seeing another car other than border patrol. So many mountain ranges and nooks/crannies. I actually felt a bit afraid on that route because I realized how alone we were. I keep thinking about that entire area in relation to this case.

 

[TIGER0822]

Yes, Michael Ruiz’s explanation of the APS card still leaves even more questions.

“The day she was reported missing a neighbor called Adult Protective Services,” [Sheriff Nanos] he says. “They sent an investigator to check on her.”

This confirms the report was made AFTER her suspected abduction.”

So:

What prompted the neighbor to make the call that day she was reported missing (which would have been Feb 1, Sunday).

Just some of my thoughts, no basis. This makes my mind swirl—

Did the neighbor hear voices or something that led them to believe she was being abused by someone familiar to her? As in, something like, “No, I won’t go with you!!” (not knowing at the time NG was actually saying that to a kidnapper). jmo

Did the neighbor’s mind go to the abuse angle rather than a kidnapping because it’s a safe neighborhood and nothing close to this has ever happened before? Jmo

Just seems odd to call APS over 911.

JMO

Possibly a Church friend, who did not want to embarrass her by calling 911, and called APS instead to do a welfare check.

 

[snarast]

He/she would have to drive quite a distance to find a lake. IMO/JMO.

One time my husband and I drove from Las Cruces, NM back to the Phoenix area via a very deserted southern route (backroads) that dropped down from west of Lordsburg (NM) and went through Douglas (AZ), Bisbee (AZ), Tombstone (AZ) and then up to Tucson and back home. The area was so desolate. Miles and miles without seeing another car other than border patrol. So many mountain ranges and nooks/crannies. I actually felt a bit afraid on that route because I realized how alone we were. I keep thinking about that entire area in relation to this case.

Add to that that the many saguaros and prickly pears making it hard to discern bodies. Plus there are unofficial roads through the deserts only the locals know.

 

[Bluewing3102]

in my opinion, they may have been keeping an eye on someone's movements. the flight circled around the river road area, then down oracle road, then circled around 2 other areas. altitude stayed mostly between 3000-3700 feet - too high to be doing sniffer checks for NG's pacemaker. fwiw my guess is they were keeping eyes on. MOO. https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N305PD

Actually the sniffer with an extender can reach up to 800 ft. Tucson sits around 2,500 ft above sea level and this Tucson PD helicopter was at 3,100 ft above sea level. So flying within the 800 ft range. The robinson that flys around with the sniffer has been flying around 3,000 ft too!

I just wasn't sure if an event was happening in Tucson that explain the helicopter. Tucson PD hasn't flown in weeks. You have a good theory too.
JMO

 

[LRinCA]

Add to that that the many saguaros and prickly pears making it hard to discern bodies. Plus there are unofficial roads through the deserts only the locals know.

Our elderly neighbor died in the desert. It was 114º that day. Just brutally hot. It's a long story, but I saw his vehicle parked by the road on the way home and by the time the police got there and drove a ways back into the area he was, to be perfectly frank, long gone. The heat and the arid environment are not to be trifled with and I've never looked at the desert the same way since.

 

[Arkay]

First time poster so be gentle, and I apologize if someone has already speculated on this or if my speculation isn’t allowed. Re JM or anyone who has publicly inserted themselves into the media conversation by locating themselves near dear NG’s, it occurred to me that this could be to provide an alibi should their DNA be found near the scene. A covering of bases approach. Might also be why some on here have suggested shoes being worn looking similar to those in video - in case a positive match was found it would, again, provide a rationale. “Of course there’s a match, I have been present here trying to help etc, etc”. Still hoping for resolution, this case has left me heartbroken for her beloved family. MOO

WELCOME, @Keep it as a thought

A very thoughtful first post! And clearly, you’ve read the rules here. Using initials and MOO!

We are all heartbroken and despairing as well, as this case is so irregular and confusing.

JMO

Enjoy being a member at WS.

 

[deadlyaloeplant]

I believe that NG is already dead and has been for some time.
Does anyone know if there's any blood spatter inside the home?
The blood on the porch looks like a concentration of high velocity spatter in a tight area and then round blood drops leading down the way. That suggests to me that she was standing in one place with blood dripping straight down and then moving quite slowly away from the front porch. There also seems to be part of a shoe print in the blood. Some kinda print anyway.
I know we're all talking about other things right now but that's really puzzling me.

 

[Charlot123]

Yes, Michael Ruiz’s explanation of the APS card still leaves even more questions.

“The day she was reported missing a neighbor called Adult Protective Services,” [Sheriff Nanos] he says. “They sent an investigator to check on her.”

This confirms the report was made AFTER her suspected abduction.”

So:

What prompted the neighbor to make the call that day she was reported missing (which would have been Feb 1, Sunday).

Just some of my thoughts, no basis. This makes my mind swirl—

Did the neighbor hear voices or something that led them to believe she was being abused by someone familiar to her? As in, something like, “No, I won’t go with you!!” (not knowing at the time NG was actually saying that to a kidnapper). jmo

Did the neighbor’s mind go to the abuse angle rather than a kidnapping because it’s a safe neighborhood and nothing close to this has ever happened before? Jmo

Just seems odd to call APS over 911.

JMO

I am positive this question has been asked, but could the abductor/anductors work for APS, or pretend to?

Maybe the person really develops unhealthy interest in her age group, then it might be like with those being interested in kids working at places that puts them in close contact with kids. If a person has interest in the elderly, it would be group homes, memory care or places like APS.

It is interesting if the call was registered, it should be. Whose phone it came from? Was the person who left the card the same who visited NG? Cards are not difficult to get.

 

[wibbleflea]

JSA Offering $10K Reward in Nancy Guthrie Case

Guthrie, the mother of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie, was abducted just as the Tucson gem shows were starting.

nationaljeweler.com

“JSA declined to comment when asked about the Guthrie family’s connection to the jewelry industry, or what had prompted it to offer a reward in the high-profile abduction case, which has been dominating the headlines for the last two weeks.”

 

[Turkeytrot]

I believe that NG is already dead and has been for some time.
Does anyone know if there's any blood spatter inside the home?
The blood on the porch looks like a concentration of high velocity spatter in a tight area and then round blood drops leading down the way. That suggests to me that she was standing in one place with blood dripping straight down and then moving quite slowly away from the front porch. There also seems to be part of a shoe print in the blood. Some kinda print anyway.
I know we're all talking about other things right now but that's really puzzling me.

I don't think there have really been any details about the inside of the home released

Jmo

 

[FromGermany1]

Possibly a Church friend, who did not want to embarrass her by calling 911, and called APS instead to do a welfare check.

The neighbor must have demanded it very urgently, if APS paid a visit so promptly. MOO