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I believe that NG is already dead and has been for some time.
Does anyone know if there's any blood spatter inside the home?
The blood on the porch looks like a concentration of high velocity spatter in a tight area and then round blood drops leading down the way. That suggests to me that she was standing in one place with blood dripping straight down and then moving quite slowly away from the front porch. There also seems to be part of a shoe print in the blood. Some kinda print anyway.
I know we're all talking about other things right now but that's really puzzling me.

If she was on anticoagulant and her PTinr was not monitored tightly, or, like with the newer meds, not at all, her blood thinners might have done too good of a job. That would change the amount/pattern of the bleeding. The whole reason it could have ended tragically was because Nancy was on anticoagulants and prone to bleeding. Sorry. I was thinking about it from day one. I don’t think she is alive, I am not sure they planned murder. I think people can have a heart attack from merely seeing the apparition. My husband thinks it looks like a mask and not scary, but I disagree. The mere view of this person make me very angry with them because poor Nancy could have fainted and even this could have been fatal.

I checked: University of AZ has a 6-weeks module program. Not like typical quarters. I would assume winter break to be over by Jan 30 in most colleges but AZ is an outlier. I can see someone being in the dorm in Phoenix, or even having a semester abroad now, is quite possible. Again, JMO.
 
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I just don't think the intruders were that sophisticated, to use a jammer. Their way of dealing with the front door NEST camera was to manhandle it off the base. But not until after the camera had already gotten a photo/video of one of the intruders.

JMO
If he had a jammer, he might’ve thought the camera was jammed at the time. That could explain his lackadaisical attitude toward having his image recorded.
 
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also, judging from Google street view, residential cameras won't cover much beyond their immediate vicinity. tall vegetation, 1 story houses, and flattish landscape mean there aren't a lot good lines of sight.

come to think of it, you can see why a home invader would pick this neighborhood. ...if we take away the assumption that getting to NG was the whole point.
Roof cameras may fair 'better', again when they are 'installed' by home owners, there will be reason for installing them and the camera installers will give 'recommendations'.
 
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If she was on anticoagulant and her PTinr was not monitored tightly, or, like with the newer meds, not at all, her blood thinners might have done too good of a job. That would change the amount/pattern of the bleeding. The whole reason it could have ended tragically was because Nancy was on anticoagulants and prone to bleeding. Sorry. I was thinking about it from day one. I don’t think she is alive, I am not sure they planned murder. I think people can have a heart attack from merely seeing the apparition. My husband thinks it looks like a mask and not scary, but I disagree. The mere view of this person make me very angry with them because poor Nancy could have fainted and even this could have been fatal.

I checked: University of AZ has a 6-weeks module program. Not like typical quarters. I would assume winter break to be over by Jan 30 in most colleges but AZ is an outlier. I can see someone being in the dorm in Phoenix, or even having a semester abroad now, is quite possible. Again, JMO.
I have also thought about Nancy's blood issues and how bad her wound was.

That's crazy because my male friend also said it's not scary. I didn't believe him but perhaps he's not?
 
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If he had a jammer, he might’ve thought the camera was jammed at the time. That could explain his lackadaisical attitude toward having his image recorded.
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What do you suppose the two headed looking thing in his backpack is? Could it be a jammer? You might have to play with the photo to see it but it's center and in the outer pocket I think.
 
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Anyone who's listening to scanners know what's going on in Tucson right now?

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Manhunt?

NG isn't the only crime in Tucson right now. Whenever, we got copters flying like this in my neighborhood, it's because theives tore out the ATM machine. Finally, Walgreens got rid of the ATM machine. It was too much of a liability.

I'm not saying it's specifically an ATM machine, because the range is fairly broad. They are very like pursuing a fleeing criminal. Maybe there was a shooting and the suspect fled.

If they were searching for NG or her pacemaker, they would do it during day light. They need to be able to visualize.
 
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Do you have an idea what may have caused those marks? They go around to the front of the house. In various other pictures of that area it is just the street. There is no sign of any trash or recycle bins in that particular area.
 
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I have also thought about Nancy's blood issues and how bad her wound was.

That's crazy because my male friend also said it's not scary. I didn't believe him but perhaps he's not?

I imagined myself seeing it in the middle of the night. I’d say, very scary. But my husband immediately said, “just a dude in a mask”. A masked dude on my doorstep in the middle of the night is scary.
 
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I imagined myself seeing it in the middle of the night. I’d say, very scary. But my husband immediately said, “just a dude in a mask”. A masked dude on my doorstep in the middle of the night is scary.
omg! if a man is uninvited on my doorstep trying to gain access to my house, that’s scary. wearing something to alter his countenance… i’m sorry, that’s an S-tier nightmare. poor NG, no one deserves this
 
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Would someone be so kind as to give a brief summary of the APS business card that’s been mentioned in relation to NG? I’ve seen it referenced several times in this thread, but I’m still unclear on how and when it was reportedly found.

I understand why people are curious about who may have called and for what reason. I’m just not sure why the card itself is being viewed as especially significant, particularly since I haven’t seen investigators address it publicly. I may have missed it, but I also haven’t seen any news coverage about the card. If anyone can clarify or point me to the original source of that information, I’d really appreciate it. Thank you in advance.
 
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Now that the sheriff has cleared the family, will he go on the record as to who dropped off Nancy on Jan 31?
 
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Do you have an idea what may have caused those marks? They go around to the front of the house. In various other pictures of that area it is just the street. There is no sign of any trash or recycle bins in that particular area.
Are those marks from before LE entered the house? Then it may be drag marks from her heels in the gravel.
Are they from after LE entered the house? Then it could be anything the LE had with them, like a big box or other equipment.
JMO
 
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Would someone be so kind as to give a brief summary of the APS business card that’s been mentioned in relation to NG? I’ve seen it referenced several times in this thread, but I’m still unclear on how and when it was reportedly found.

I understand why people are curious about who may have called and for what reason. I’m just not sure why the card itself is being viewed as especially significant, particularly since I haven’t seen investigators address it publicly. I may have missed it, but I also haven’t seen any news coverage about the card. If anyone can clarify or point me to the original source of that information, I’d really appreciate it. Thank you in advance.
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Now that the sheriff has cleared the family, will he go on the record as to who dropped off Nancy on Jan 31?
Probably not, because if they’ve been cleared, it’s irrelevant.

JMO
 
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