CANADA Canada - Nicole Morin, 8, Toronto, 30 July 1985

  • #661
From the post above:

Before leaving the apartment, Nicole had spoken to a friend through the building’s intercom and promised to be right down. The playmate waited about 15 minutes before buzzing the apartment again to find out why Nicole hadn’t arrived. The two girls had arranged to meet in the lobby and go to a supervised swimming pool at the rear of the building.

Nicole seemingly disappeared INSIDE the building.
 
  • #662
When the playmate buzzed the apartment again, who answered? And what did they say?
 
  • #663
When the playmate buzzed the apartment again, who answered? And what did they say?
According to Constable Sutton in this article:
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“The arrangement was made over the phone and the plan was to meet in the lobby at 11 a.m.,” said Const. Nicole Sutton of 22 Division, who’s been investigating the case for the past few years. “Just before 11, Nicole had finished up some food, said goodbye to her mom, who was in the apartment, and was seen walking out the apartment door to head towards the elevator to go down to meet (her) friend.”

But 15 minutes later, Jen buzzed up and told Jeannette that Nicole hadn’t shown up.

Nicole’s mom had just assumed that maybe they had missed each other and Nicole had gone out either to the pool or was playing with some other kids on the property at the back of the building,” Sutton said. “Nicole’s mom was running an in-home daycare at the time, so she had smaller kids that she was responsible for and therefore she wasn’t able to leave the apartment.”
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So Nicole's mom answered Jen's second buzz. Even though it's not said explicitly, I assume her words to Jen over the intercom were those bolded above, namely that maybe they missed each other, or that Nicole went ahead to the pool or was playing elsewhere.

In that era, a 15-minute no-show wasn't necessarily cause for alarm or worry. Even though you couldn't reach the person directly, if you made plans to meet someone at a certain spot, you just figured they'd show up.

Jen's friend probably agreed with Nicole's mom, went off to the pool figuring Nicole would catch up to her, and then just lost track of time.
 
  • #664
Thanks so much for the post above. Looking back, it's amazing how we all take things for granted - like "oh, she's probably at the pool".
 
  • #665
Just bringing this forward incase anyone missed it. Nicole Morin
 
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I know I’ve posted about this before, but Nicole Morin’s abduction shares similarities with the 1990 murder of Andrea Atkinson, a six-year-old who vanished from her Toronto apartment building five years after Nicole. Andrea’s building was less than a 40-minute drive from Nicole’s. Her case, now largely forgotten, was covered extensively by the Toronto Star at the time. I’ll share a clipping below.

Like Nicole, Andrea left her apartment to go to another floor in the building, in order to meet a friend. Searchers ended up finding her body hidden in the boiler room, stuffed under a storage tank. DNA evidence found at the scene gave detectives enough evidence to arrest the building's janitor, John Carlos Terceira, who emerged as a suspect early on.

I think that something similar happened to Nicole, in that a building employee or neighbour saw her alone and acted on the opportunity. The time frame just doesn't allow for much movement other than someone who was riding the elevator with Nicole, or saw her if she got off on another floor, took the stairs, etc. I don't believe John Terceira is responsible for Nicole Morin’s abduction, though, because he would've been only thirteen back in 1985.

I think it's likely that the police have a prime suspect in the case, since the suspect pool was likely pretty small, given the tight time frame. They would never tell the public if that were the case, though. Here in Canada they are extremely tight lipped. Maybe there was a known sex offender who lived in Nicole’s building, or nearby. They likely just didn't have enough evidence to charge him, especially before the advancement of DNA, and with no body. JMO Police have likely been tipped off that the prime suspect has recently gotten divorced, died, is dying, etc.

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'It was one of the most infamous child murder cases in recent Toronto history and next month will mark 35 years since little Andrea Atkinson was raped and murdered by the janitor in her east end building.'
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John Terceira will be eligible for a faint hope application on his life sentence in December after serving 15 years in prison for the first-degree murder of Andrea Atkinson. Terceira was convicted in 1993 for the 6-year-old’s rape and killing.

''Terceira still poses an “average risk” of committing further sex crimes and until he completes programming – he refused until 2018, claiming he was innocent – the psychologist said he can’t be considered for any release or transfer to a lower security prison.''
 
  • #669
What a sad story, and I'll confess, I had completely forgotten this little gal, until now.
He could have been transferred and put up for early parole if he had agreed to take the reprogramming, but held out all those years. He probably knew within himself he will recommit. Canada needs an overhaul of the whole system.
 

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