GUILTY France, Dominique Pélicot, drugged wife of 50 years nightly, filmed rape by at least 51 men, 2011-2020
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Theatre is not only entertainment.
It is one of the oldest methods which
has been helping people to understand themselves and the world around
for centuries!
Think of
Shakespeare, Aischylos, Eurypides, Sofokles, Molier, Beckett, Gombrowicz...and many others!
They dealt with the condition of Man, dramas, struggles...
There are real emotions on the stage because they happen live.
Thanks to this,
the audience can better identify with the heroes, empathize with their fears, joy, conflicts.
Also
Theatre helps to develop empathy and emotional intelligence.
Think of education of children and their involvement in School Theatre
and visits to theatre performances which are in curriculum (Art and Culture).
And I could go on & on & on...
Theatre is very respected and popular in Europe.
JMO
PS
Im sure nothing was done against Gisele's wishes.
C'mon!
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I hope it’s not against her wishes. If the play is done well it could be very enlightening and definitely be a good thing.
There is an absolutely amazing play called Prima Facie about a lawyer who is raped by a colleague. This isn’t based on a true story but was inspired by the writer’s experiences as a lawyer.
There is an absolutely amazing play called Prima Facie about a lawyer who is raped by a colleague. This isn’t based on a true story but was inspired by the writer’s experiences as a lawyer.
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I don't like the idea of what happened to Madame Pelicot being made into entertainment.
It was not simple "entertainment".
The event was part of famous Avignon Festival
which is
Theatre festival in France,
one of the most important events of this type in the world.
The festival takes place annually in Avignon.
Its creator was Jean Vilar, who organized the first edition in 1947.
Festival d'Avignon - Wikipedia
We must remember that
Gisèle Pelicot's drama took place in the village of Mazan,
34 kilometers east of Avignon,
while the trial took place in the Avignon courthouse,
about three kilometers from the Carmelite Monastery,
where the Festival takes place.
I see it as symbolic Tribute to the Victim.
The play is also going to be shown in Warsaw - my country's capital city.
But as I'm constantly on the go during holidays (till September)
I don't think I will watch it.
Or was it already shown???
I have to check.
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"Outrage has gripped Italy with politicians and activists describing the group as 'virtual gang rape'
and drawing comparisons
to the case of Gisèle Pelicot,
who was drugged and raped by her husband and his friends for years."
and drawing comparisons
to the case of Gisèle Pelicot,
who was drugged and raped by her husband and his friends for years."
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Horrible
Emetic
Words are not easy
Pervert
Feel free to laugh at me after reading this! This has to do with the play about the Pelicot trial and my confusion about the wording used in the first article I read.
Quoting from the article:
The play,
set inside a 14th-century Carmelite cloister,
lasts three hours and uses real transcripts from the trial
as well as police files, social commentary and psychiatric reports.
I’m laughing at myself for being so literal. Ever since I read about the play “The Pelicot Trial: Tribute to Gisèle Pelicot,” I’ve been quite puzzled. I haven’t been able to figure out how the play could be “set inside a 14th century Carmelite cloister.” The “setting” of a play is an integral part of the play, describing where and when the action is taking place, and that setting has an influence on the play. I cculd NOT figure out how setting the play about the Pelicot trial in a Carmelite cloistered convent could possibly have any relevance to the trial. And besides, Carmelite nuns spend most of their time in contemplative silence. How would that fit?
In my feeble defense, I live in a town with a live theatre festival, so this sort of wording definitely didn’t make sense to me. And I’m probably the only one here it would bother. I just had to get to the bottom of it. As the link below describes, the play is staged in the open air Carmelite cloister which seats 500 people. That is the theatre where the play is performed! What a difference a word makes, and what a relief. It is not set in a convent, thankfully not adding some kind of obscure symbolic imagery to the play about the trial. No silent nuns are involved in the play. You can laugh at me now! I can take it!
All humor aside, it sounds as if the play has captured the intensity and meaning of this horrible case, as well as the courage of Giselle.
www.theguardian.com
Quoting from this article:
The performance is made up of staged readings of extracts from the trial, police files, social commentary and psychiatric reports. It looks at the 51 convicted and the question of how these men, including a nurse, a soldier, a journalist, a prison warden and delivery drivers, aged from 26 to 74, could travel to Pelicot’s home to rape her. More than 50 performers will read extracts from the trial, and those on stage will include a psychiatric expert from the case and court artists who were present at the trial.
Rau said it was important to stage the theatre piece in Avignon, where the trial took place and where crowds had gathered outside the court daily to cheer Gisèle Pelicot, and where the city walls were plastered with her quotes. It will be staged in a 14th-century open-air Carmelite cloister, with seats for 500 people, as part of the city’s renowned theatre festival.
BBM
Quoting from the article:
The play,
set inside a 14th-century Carmelite cloister,
lasts three hours and uses real transcripts from the trial
as well as police files, social commentary and psychiatric reports.
I’m laughing at myself for being so literal. Ever since I read about the play “The Pelicot Trial: Tribute to Gisèle Pelicot,” I’ve been quite puzzled. I haven’t been able to figure out how the play could be “set inside a 14th century Carmelite cloister.” The “setting” of a play is an integral part of the play, describing where and when the action is taking place, and that setting has an influence on the play. I cculd NOT figure out how setting the play about the Pelicot trial in a Carmelite cloistered convent could possibly have any relevance to the trial. And besides, Carmelite nuns spend most of their time in contemplative silence. How would that fit?
In my feeble defense, I live in a town with a live theatre festival, so this sort of wording definitely didn’t make sense to me. And I’m probably the only one here it would bother. I just had to get to the bottom of it. As the link below describes, the play is staged in the open air Carmelite cloister which seats 500 people. That is the theatre where the play is performed! What a difference a word makes, and what a relief. It is not set in a convent, thankfully not adding some kind of obscure symbolic imagery to the play about the trial. No silent nuns are involved in the play. You can laugh at me now! I can take it!
All humor aside, it sounds as if the play has captured the intensity and meaning of this horrible case, as well as the courage of Giselle.
‘It’s ourselves and society on trial’: playwright adapts Gisèle Pelicot case for stage
Case that exposed France’s rape culture and shocked the world has been made into play to be shown in Avignon, where trial was held
The performance is made up of staged readings of extracts from the trial, police files, social commentary and psychiatric reports. It looks at the 51 convicted and the question of how these men, including a nurse, a soldier, a journalist, a prison warden and delivery drivers, aged from 26 to 74, could travel to Pelicot’s home to rape her. More than 50 performers will read extracts from the trial, and those on stage will include a psychiatric expert from the case and court artists who were present at the trial.
Rau said it was important to stage the theatre piece in Avignon, where the trial took place and where crowds had gathered outside the court daily to cheer Gisèle Pelicot, and where the city walls were plastered with her quotes. It will be staged in a 14th-century open-air Carmelite cloister, with seats for 500 people, as part of the city’s renowned theatre festival.
BBM
I so hope that mother and daughter can mend fences. They have both been betrayed by their husband and father. I can understand why Caroline expected Giselle to reciprocate the support Caroline gave her. And I can understand why Giselle isn’t ready to wrap her mind and feelings around her husband potentially drugging and raping his daughter. It’s a tragedy worthy of Shakespeare with no easy answers. I hope healing, love and compassion will prevail for both of them so that they won’t give Dominique the satisfaction of knowing he’s caused more destruction.
I hope
that wife, daughter and sons are attending long term psychotherapy.
This is the only way to overcome the trauma IMO.
With help of specialists.
Daughter's grief is festering
She seems to feel betrayed by both parents
- not only by pervert father,
but mother as well
(by not acknowledging possible abuse of her).
And we must remember about sons.
They may be not vocal about their grief,
but it doesn't mean they don't t suffer.
Fathers usually have special bonds with sons.
A father serves as a primary model for his sons,
teaching them what it means to be a man.
So the betrayal must feel enormous
Therapy for all!!!
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Along those same lines, daughters often feel extra close to their fathers as they are treated as a princess and the “apple of the eye”.
I hope that both mother and daughter realize with time that allowing him to come between them is another horrible thing to allow him to do! I can see both sides of this and hope that someone can help them mend their broken fence and love each other again. Neither of them are to blame for what happened. Neither of them knew how to react to the spotlight. Neither of them knew how to process the grief of losing him along with the grief and horror of understanding what he did.
This is one instance where the mother didn’t turn a blind eye to the abuse as it was happening. But, comforting her child is something she may need to learn how to do through her own trauma.
I hope that both mother and daughter realize with time that allowing him to come between them is another horrible thing to allow him to do! I can see both sides of this and hope that someone can help them mend their broken fence and love each other again. Neither of them are to blame for what happened. Neither of them knew how to react to the spotlight. Neither of them knew how to process the grief of losing him along with the grief and horror of understanding what he did.
This is one instance where the mother didn’t turn a blind eye to the abuse as it was happening. But, comforting her child is something she may need to learn how to do through her own trauma.
Re mother's lack of acknowledgment of daughter's abuse
I see it as being in denial,
which is self protecting mode.
Because, let's be honest,
one's psyche can process only that much.
There is a limit.
Limit of what can be endured before losing one's mind.
That is why psychological therapies are needed.
JMO
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Complete speculation, imo.
Wondering if there is another layer to the rift between mother and daughter, one neither dare to acknowledge or question?
Delicately and respectfully as possible - if it is true that DP also assaulted CD, would that suggest it might be prudent for all members of the family, to have DNA tested?
Wondering if there is another layer to the rift between mother and daughter, one neither dare to acknowledge or question?
Delicately and respectfully as possible - if it is true that DP also assaulted CD, would that suggest it might be prudent for all members of the family, to have DNA tested?
IMO!!!
DP seems to suffer from sexual deviancy - voyeurism - over which he has no control.
That is why he suggested "swingers' relationship" to the wife.
When she declined, he did it his way.
He is sick in the head.
I mean,
he probably cannot get satisfaction any other way.
That is why I think he restricted himself to watching & recording to watch later.
But, mind you,
this is only my THEORY
as I'm neither a sexologist
(a specialist who treats issues such as sexual dysfunctions),
nor a psychiatrist
JMO
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