GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #112

[soap mama]

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she's AMAZING. so was Xana's mom

 

[MTW2011]

Note: please disregard any typos as this was transcribed quickly from listening to the Goncalves family speak outside of the courthouse today. Kaylee's brother read his statement and really laid into Thompson's previous case history and how often he has offered up plea deals in similarly heinous cases. (They added even more cases to the small list of cases I shared of those already on WS).

"We won't stop now, we've crossed nearly every murder case prosecuted by Bill Thompson, including the killing of University of Idaho football player Eric McMillan. There is a clear and troubling pattern .Families are left feeling unheard. Justice is negotiated down through plea deals, and the public is left with unanswered questions. In the McMillan case, charges were reduced from first degree to second degree murder, prompting confusion and outrage from the victim's family and community. Same pattern emerged in the Silas Parks and John Lee cases, both of which prosecuted by Bill Thompson. Four capital eligible crimes were resolved through plea agreements, sidestepping trials and diminishing public accountability.

The most egregious of these crimes was the brutal killing of Whitney Parks, a young pregnant woman whose life was taken by her husband Silas Parks during a violent domestic assault. Whitney was only 22 years old when he was beaten and strangled in her own home, an act of cruelty that not only ended her life, but also the life of her unborn child. And yet despite the devastating nature of this crime, Bill Thompson reduced the charges from murder to voluntary manslaughter. Ultimately securing a sentence that allowed Parks the possibility of parole after just five years.

There was no trial, no full accounting of what Whitney endured, no acknowledgement in the legal outcomes of the child she was carrying. For Whitney's family, for anyone who believed that justice system should speak forcefully for victims, this wasn't justice. It was a deal, and it was like so many others under Thompson's watch.

It prioritized expedience over accountability. Now most predictably, we find ourselves reliving that pattern in the current case. Despite the magnitude and brutality of the crime, the prosecution chose to accept a plea deal behind closed doors, without trial, without ever consulting our family in any meaningful way.

In fact, we learned from the plea deal that had been finalized from an email from the prosecution team, not in person, not with warning, not with respect. That moment underscored what we feared all along, and that this case was following the same well-worn path toward expedience over justice. Sentencing once again fails to reflect the severity of the act, and the emotional fallout has landed again on the shoulders of the victim's families, who have been left out, unheard, and grieving.

Not just a horrific loss, but a system that continues to bypass them. The through line is undeniable. Whether it's 2004 or 2025..." (statement goes on but I am posting just a portion).
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I am really sorry the actions of the prosecution team has made them feel this way.

 

[10ofRods]

We don't know if that actually happened, it says that LE received a tip that a professor gave BK a Ka-bar knife. I didn't see it mentioned that this was confirmed.

Well, now that there's no trial, it cannot be confirmed. It will be interesting to see what else comes out through FOIA over time. I hope we at least get to see the long version of the prosecution's witness list. The FBI did go talk to the professor (apparently) and Moscow investigators talked to the young woman who said she was accompanying Kohberger.

I do wonder if this conversation and exchange took place in Oklahoma or whether the professor was visiting at a criminology conference back east.

I haven't gotten to his phone data yet, but surely that will be released at some point.

The documents say KG was stabbed 30 times, but so far, no actual autopsy report - so no "evidence" for it, but the memorandum of a police officer who says he looked at the autopsy when it came in. It's so frustrating not to be able to see the actual proof (which in this case, I would say the autopsy is).

I wonder if that young woman in the OK incident will now speak to MSM??

 

[GMG1999]

Mods: How are we navigating the document dump here? I’m going through them and there are some very sensitive ones (I.e. autopsy reports and crime scene description) that may be out of the normal discussion rules here. Just wondering how, if at all, members are to discuss these and which ones should not be mentioned, if any.

Just feels a little gray area-ish to me and wanted to check.

Edited for grammar*

Which document number?

 

[whirrledpeas]

Nope. Not me.

I posted a link to Google drive that has the docs unzipped and organized into folders to mirror the Moscow PD website. It’s on page 80.

 

[DizzyB]

Just got through the first 50. Kaylee’s wounds were different-blunt force trauma in addition. And there was talk of a stalker a month prior, a pair of eyes watching through the trees when Kaylee was outside with Murphy. The girls were freaked by it. The autopsies listing the causes of death for each are brutal.

 

[whirrledpeas]

Which document number?

Supps 2, 3 and 32 so far.

 

[LinasK]

Just FYI, in the presser afterward, LE said they could find no links whatsoever between him and his victims.

I'm aware and I'm aware of what the victim's families said. I believe them that Kohlberger contacted them.

 

[Vaderman]

 

[LinasK]

So I heard them say this. Are we really just to believe he just "randomly" picked this house?

Nope! I will never believe that this was a random killing. Whether the victims knew him or not, he clearly stalked them. I believe the family members though who stated that he DID contact them- meaning Kaylee or Maddie. They were his targets. Xana and Ethan were collateral damage. He had a thing for blondes.

 

[bajaflash]

Brittney Spears, OMG. A real tough guy.

Like, if he weren't a murderous nutso, I'd feel second hand embarrassment.

 

[seasideForest]

I believe the reporter from NewsNation toured the Idaho prison and said that the prisoners can have a tv, iPad, and access to email. Pretty ridiculous.

Brian Entin explained what he was told by the prison - it's partly to keep the inmates occupied so they don't run riot in their cells, go on strikes, attempt to break out, commit more violence than they already do (which is not just violence towards fellow prisoners that we'd like to see the back of like BK but also prison staff) and possibly a bunch of other stuff. From what I've read, it's not totally easy being a prison warden and keeping a whole bunch of violent and possibly delinquent inmates in control, despite all the equipment they have for that.

JMO

 

[Chimera]

It might not have been rage. It might have been oh my god I need to harm these 2 very quickly, especially if he wasn't expecting two, so he was slashing and stabbing anywhere in panic

Fair enough.
Maybe if he was calm and not panicking during his attack, he'd have done even more damage/disfiguration ?
Hate to type that.

My .02 is that the BK we saw today may have had the same flat and icily dead demeanor while he was murdering innocents that morning on King road, though.

 

[whirrledpeas]

Fair enough.
Maybe if he was calm and not panicking during his attack, he'd have done even more damage/disfiguration ?
Hate to type that.

My .02 is that the BK we saw today may have had the same flat and icily dead demeanor while he was murdering innocents that morning on King road, though.

Based on the documents I’ve read so far, what happened in that house was anything but calm.

MOO

 

[soap mama]

I'm aware and I'm aware of what the victim's families said. I believe them that Kohlberger contacted them.

if not contacted, he at the very least, looked at their instas

 

[Luna20]

I believe the reporter from NewsNation toured the Idaho prison and said that the prisoners can have a tv, iPad, and access to email. Pretty ridiculous.

That’s ridiculous. So he can read anything that he wants to, especially about himself. He can email and fantasize with his fans? P O R N has to be blocked, I hope it is. We haven’t seen it yet but the stuff he had on his computer was pretty graphic.

 

[MassGuy]

This one is damning. Trying to find the doc number View attachment 603549

This tip was unfounded. #263

 

[INfisherman]

I’m commenting from memory after watching the sentencing off & on throughout the day. Proud of everyone who spoke & cannot fathom their feelings or lives going forward. Their losses are immeasurable. Some stood out to me, but by no means lessens any words from anyone who spoke whether they are mentioned below or not.

The 2 surviving roommates were absolute soldiers for having the strength & courage to even be able to come forth with words to address,on,paper or in person, the monster who forever changed their lives. It’s done now. Please, live life, girls, as best you can. There’s an entire world out there & one of your fears will never see it again going forward.

All the parents, biological & blended, I’m sorry you have to speak of your children in the past tense. No parent should outlive their child. I didn’t know your kids personally but it seemed you did well as parents else they wouldn’t be in college if you hadn’t. Please don’t use this tragedy as a means to fall into your own darknesses, past or present. That lets the soulless one win.

Deetle Beetle, you did your Maddie proud, as any grandma would.

Ben, keep your head up & focus on living the life your daughter would want for you. Please don’t let other demons into your life, as hard as it may be. Happiness is there if you want to find it.

SG, specifically, you did me proud as a dad. You could have done your worst but instead did your best to make your baby girl proud. I can’t walk an inch in your shoes but would proudly walk miles after today. Thank you for sharing your thoughts throughout & giving everyone involved in bringing the admitted murderer to justice the credit they deserved. I know you wanted more, as did many, but in the end you did what was right.

Alivia, I don’t ever want to disagree with you. Hammer, meet nail. You said what most were feeling & it still most likely wasn’t enough.

Kim Kernodle, you possibly said the most in the fewest words possible. I applaud your willingness to forgive & listen. Likely the most admirable statement I heard today. I wish I had it in me to be like you.

Xana’s stepfather, Randy, he doesn’t deserve a second in the woods with you because you can’t teach a person how to care. He will be in hell, rest assured. I firmly believe that.

The creep just sat there, expressionless, as if this was all a bore to him, with his smirking attorney beside him. I’m sorry, but Elisa Massoth should never be allowed to sit in on another murder trial again. Whether intentional or not, I found her facial expressions to be more repulsive than that of her client throughout the entirety of the hearings, even before today. 100% unprofessional. It’s a murder trial for Christ’s sake - there’s no room for any smiles in the courtroom when any hearings are taking place, period. Such a disgrace to your profession, I am sorry. Shame on you.

AT & your team. Still convinced of his innocence? I didn’t think so. You knew all along. At least you had the courtesy & professionalism not to smirk, for all the good it did you in the end.

Lastly, thank you JH. Every trial judge could learn how it should be done from you. You were level headed & fair & absolutely said what needed to be said when it needed to be said. We asked for everything under the sun & you bore the weight of all the planets honorably.

 

[bajaflash]

Fair enough.
Maybe if he was calm and not panicking during his attack, he'd have done even more damage/disfiguration ?
Hate to type that.

My .02 is that the BK we saw today may have had the same flat and icily dead demeanor while he was murdering innocents that morning on King road, though.

I think alot of people who kill via stabbing dont realize how long it can take and how much energy. I'm sure he was jacked up on adrenaline, but realizing he immediately was attacking two could have been a huge shock.

 

[Chimera]

The families knew and said that the victims had been contacted by him. They have no reason to lie. I firmly believe that this was NOT a random killing. He targeted and stalked these girls.

Bbm.
I would like to read more about that.
Way back there was a YT vid that mentioned it .... however I can't find it now.
Imo.