UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #18

[KateB]

Claudia Lawrence

Claudia Lawrence investigation
http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/13147

It is now six years since Claudia Lawrence disappeared without trace in York. Despite the intensive efforts of the police, the resolve of her heart-broken family and saturated media coverage, her sudden disappearance remains a mystery.

North Yorkshire Police's commitment and determination to solve the case and bring closure for Claudia's loved-ones, is undiminished by the passage of time.

Detective Superintendent Dai Malyn, head of the force's enhanced Major Crime Unit, is leading a comprehensive review of the original investigation.

This has been supported by national experts from other forces and agencies, including forensic specialists who recently completed a re-examination of Claudia's home on Heworth Road in York.

As a result of this work, Det Supt Malyn and his team have identified new lines of enquiry and fresh public appeals to pursue, as well as renewed appeals on previous key items of interest to the investigation.

Detective Chief Superintendent Simon Mason, Head of Crime for North Yorkshire Police, said: "The decision to focus and prioritise the efforts of the enhanced Major Crime Unit on this case and undertake a comprehensive review of the original investigation, is producing progressive results which we expect to continue over time."

Use our interactive map to explore these lines of enquiry and CCTV footage from the investigation. Zoom in and click the hotspots for more information:
Interactive map - Google My Maps
If you have any information that could assist the investigation, please contact North Yorkshire Police on 101, select option 1, and pass details to the Force Control Room. Please quote "Claudia Lawrence" when passing on details.

The independent charity Crimestoppers has also lent its support by offering a £10,000 reward for information that leads to an arrest and charge. Callers can remain anonymous.

Please pass information to Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111, quoting "Claudia Lawrence, North Yorkshire Police". Alternatively, go to www.crimestoppers-uk.org and fill in an Anonymous Online Form.

Timeline: http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/13193

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[Woodburnbay]

Perhaps we're viewing the role of alley man incorrectly. What if alley man was there to try and warn Claudia of a threat or some danger?
My trail.of thought is :
Person A is closely connected to Claudia and the person(s) who wanted to harm her. Person A hear"s about plans to harm Claudia, but as they are well known, cannot be seen anywhere in the vicinity of CL's home.
Person A asks a trusted friend/family member, Person B, who is not known to any of the above and not from the area, to warn CL.
Person A tells Person B how they can access the rear of the property via the alleyway.
Person B, not knowing the area goes back twice, as they aren't sure they've got the correct property (possibly calling Person A to confirm they are in the correct place).
Person B doesn't get any answer from CL, advises Person A, who asks that they wait around to speak to her
Person B waits all night (probably in a car near to the property) and tries again in the morning (in case Person B believes they may have missed her returning home).
Neither of them would come forward. CL is already missing and whatever fate she had would be them (or their families), if they went to the police.
Like I say, it's just a thought.

Or the Alleyperson was trying to warn her and take her to a safe place but she wasn't at home

 

[x_caz_x]

Or the Alleyperson was trying to warn her and take her to a safe place but she wasn't at home

Definitely a possibility

 

[Popejohn3]

Or even more cynically, they were aware that someone monitored her phone?

If you think you can put a name to person A and person B please inform cold case !
Personally I think person B acted on his own

 

[x_caz_x]

If you think you can put a name to person A and person B please inform cold case !
Personally I think person B acted on his own

if only I could! If I could, I certainly wouldn't be discussing on here.

 

[x_caz_x]

If you think you can put a name to person A and person B please inform cold case !
Personally I think person B acted on his own

if Person B acted alone, do you think they were there to harm or help?

 

[Blonderabbit]

Or the Alleyperson was trying to warn her and take her to a safe place but she wasn't at home

Of all of the many people walking back and forth on the same path as alleywayman over the period of 12 hours - the police pick out 1 man twice. They know full well who it is and what he is up to but need collaboration. Shown to a jury you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt. It may be A trying to warn B is not going to cut it.
It’s incredibly hard trying to put together pieces in the dark - so coming up with theories can help stimulate joined up thinking. I urge anyone interested to go back to the two cars seen on the bus cctv - who’s cars are they? Find those cars and their owners. Find them in drives or places associated with Poi’s and you will be a good 80% of the way there. Google earth and the way back machine for anyone who has the time to crack the case

 

[Woodburnbay]

Of all of the many people walking back and forth on the same path as alleywayman over the period of 12 hours - the police pick out 1 man twice. They know full well who it is and what he is up to but need collaboration. Shown to a jury you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt. It may be A trying to warn B is not going to cut it.
It’s incredibly hard trying to put together pieces in the dark - so coming up with theories can help stimulate joined up thinking. I urge anyone interested to go back to the two cars seen on the bus cctv - who’s cars are they? Find those cars and their owners. Find them in drives or places associated with Poi’s and you will be a good 80% of the way there. Google earth and the way back machine for anyone who has the time to crack the case

I agree with @Blonderabbit That the car(s) outside Claudias at c 21:00 had something to do with things.

When the bus cctv was shown, the police focused more on the white van parked near the chippy.

At the time I struggled to understand why they excused the cars outside of Claudias.

What I think happened here was is that Galloway messed things up (And he did this good and proper during the case) He investigated only for the owner (s) to provide a plausible excuse for being parked there.

When Malyn turned up, he decided that the excuse for the cars being there was lame and then he arrested some of the individuals for questioning.

A simple excuse for being there was that the pub was busy that night and they couldn't get parked in the car park.
This would have been plausible except for al of the activity around the cars at the time.

 

[FromGermany1]

Perhaps we're viewing the role of alley man incorrectly. What if alley man was there to try and warn Claudia of a threat or some danger?
My trail.of thought is :
Person A is closely connected to Claudia and the person(s) who wanted to harm her. Person A hear"s about plans to harm Claudia, but as they are well known, cannot be seen anywhere in the vicinity of CL's home.
Person A asks a trusted friend/family member, Person B, who is not known to any of the above and not from the area, to warn CL.
Person A tells Person B how they can access the rear of the property via the alleyway.
Person B, not knowing the area goes back twice, as they aren't sure they've got the correct property (possibly calling Person A to confirm they are in the correct place).
Person B doesn't get any answer from CL, advises Person A, who asks that they wait around to speak to her
Person B waits all night (probably in a car near to the property) and tries again in the morning (in case Person B believes they may have missed her returning home).
Neither of them would come forward. CL is already missing and whatever fate she had would be them (or their families), if they went to the police.
Like I say, it's just a thought.

If person B had been a stranger to CL, why should B have offered to do such a job? Why should have CL trust a stranger (B), who knocks on her door and warns her of a severe threat?
Which threat could it have been: abduction? murder?
Why should person A have known of a dangerous threat? The perps wouldn't have talked about something really bad in his presence, one can assume. If person A belongs to the inner circle, why would he have wanted to warn CL?
I'm trying to brainstorm, nothing more.
ETA: If someone wanted to warn her and he was able somehow, one could imagine, that CL in a flash disappeared of her own and since is indeed living her new life abroad somewhere.
IMO+MOO

 

[saztina]

Anyone else think that the alleyman seems to be bald?

 

[FromGermany1]

Anyone else think that the alleyman seems to be bald?

I saw video stills of him and thought, he was wearing a beanie. Later I saw stills, where he seemed to be bald. So, I can't say, what maybe correct.

 

[Popejohn3]

if Person B acted alone, do you think they were there to harm or help?

Neither they just wanted to talk to her ! Imo
Personally I do not think this crime was pre planned !

 

[Blonderabbit]

I agree with @Blonderabbit That the car(s) outside Claudias at c 21:00 had something to do with things.

When the bus cctv was shown, the police focused more on the white van parked near the chippy.

At the time I struggled to understand why they excused the cars outside of Claudias.

What I think happened here was is that Galloway messed things up (And he did this good and proper during the case) He investigated only for the owner (s) to provide a plausible excuse for being parked there.

When Malyn turned up, he decided that the excuse for the cars being there was lame and then he arrested some of the individuals for questioning.

A simple excuse for being there was that the pub was busy that night and they couldn't get parked in the car park.
This would have been plausible except for al of the activity around the cars at the time.

I have to disagree on two points 1. Galloway is a clever seasoned officer - he showed the white van merely for the public at large - this footage is aimed at the perps - you’ve been seen. Secondly the vehicles parked outside Claudias were not parked on the kerb - but parked right across the pavement blocking the whole pavement - the full view of Claudias front door was blocked by the suv

 

[Popejohn3]

I have to disagree on two points 1. Galloway is a clever seasoned officer - he showed the white van merely for the public at large - this footage is aimed at the perps - you’ve been seen. Secondly the vehicles parked outside Claudias were not parked on the kerb - but parked right across the pavement blocking the whole pavement - the full view of Claudias front door was blocked by the suv

But I heard the police know who owned the car in front of the suv

 

[Cascadia Mount]

Happy to see action on this post. It seems like there was so much information that could have led somewhere.

 

[Blonderabbit]

But I heard the police know who owned the car in front of the suv

There’s lots of evidence behind closed doors. Unless it is exposed in the public domain, pieces of the puzzle can’t be put together.

 

[Blonderabbit]

Neither they just wanted to talk to her ! Imo
Personally I do not think this crime was pre planned !

Evidence suggests otherwise. At the point of disconnection - between 8.23pm and 9.01pm two vehicles appear at the front of the victims house. Alleywayman potentially stalking the victim. Numerous others seen around the victims property in the golden hours.
There appears collaboration. The almost complete lack of evidence

 

[Blonderabbit]

Ray Galloway - I feel was spot on in his analysis of the victims' relationships

" he had information that she was involved in relationships of "complexity and mystery"

"I am certain that some of those relationships were not known to her family or her friends."

Missing chef Claudia Lawrence had 'mystery' relationships

Police appeal for more information after Crimewatch programme prompts 40 calls

www.theguardian.com

Ray Galloway is heavily criticised, wrongly in my opinion

I agree with @Blonderabbit That the car(s) outside Claudias at c 21:00 had something to do with things.

When the bus cctv was shown, the police focused more on the white van parked near the chippy.

At the time I struggled to understand why they excused the cars outside of Claudias.

What I think happened here was is that Galloway messed things up (And he did this good and proper during the case) He investigated only for the owner (s) to provide a plausible excuse for being parked there.

When Malyn turned up, he decided that the excuse for the cars being there was lame and then he arrested some of the individuals for questioning.

A simple excuse for being there was that the pub was busy that night and they couldn't get parked in the car park.
This would have been plausible except for al of the activity around the cars at the ti

 

[Blonderabbit]

Calling all Sleuths - if you had 1 question to put to detectives regarding this case - what would your question be?

Video: People know what happened to Claudia – says new detective on the case

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