What was Adam Shacknai's role in support of his brother?

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  • #41
The Shacknais were with Max when he died.

Okay, but where were they before he died? Sleeping in a RMcD's? Why weren't they WITH HIM. What if for one instance he awoke and said something?
 
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during pc le said js was at the hospital during that time, did not mention rmcd house, which was mentioned in the police report. even so, many times doctors & nurses will tell a relative to go and eat, get sleep, that they won't be any good for their loved one in that shape, that they need to also take care of themselves to be able to take care of loved one.


bbm

we know what we need to do. We are parents, siblings, children, no one has to ever tell us what to do!!!!
 
  • #43
Just throwing this out there. Yes I am a nurse. I also know that children are vulnerable, frightened and shut down in a hospital environment, unless they have a chronic health problem that requires multiple hospital stays.

In our hospital setting, parents must provide for someone to be at their child's bedside, 24/7. There are very few exceptions to this rule. One would be if one parent is deployed and the other parent has children at home with no one to watch them. Usually there are care takers available for the well children through organizations on the base however.

When my grandson was in the hospital for 4 days, my daughter had JUST had his little brother the day prior, and Daddy had just returned from deployment a day before baby brother was born and was in the hospital himself.. I stayed in the hospital with my grandson. I never left his side. If anyone had told me to, I would have refused. Period, end of story. I was not going to leave my 3 year old grandson alone. Period.

This was in the hospital where I worked. Where I knew every nurse that would take care of him. But guess what? I knew my grandson also. I knew that he needed me. Even when he didn't truly know I was there, he was comforted by my being there.

Each person handles this the best way they can. There is nothing wrong with taking breaks, there is nothing wrong with refusing to leave. You KNOW what is BEST for your child, grandchild, niece, nephew or God child. No one else knows that child like you!!!
 
  • #44
How do you know what happened at the hospital? They were given bad news around oneish. I won't even speculate on emotions and RM house, the hospital, the child, how they were feeling, right and wrong ways to act. And how do you know it wasn't DS's sister that was at RM House? They may have included her when for whereabouts?

Okay then. Would you leave your child?
 
  • #45
Okay then. Would you leave your child?
I don't put people into boxes and say there is only one way for everything and my way is the right and only way. I would never judge a person.
 
  • #46
Okay, but where were they before he died? Sleeping in a RMcD's? Why weren't they WITH HIM. What if for one instance he awoke and said something?

I can understand your feelings, as I described in my post, but we don't know if there was ever a time when both parents were not present. Maybe they spelled each other. Maybe they were there the whole time except to shower or eat. We don't have that information.

How do you know what happened at the hospital? They were given bad news around oneish. I won't even speculate on emotions and RM house, the hospital, the child, how they were feeling, right and wrong ways to act. And how do you know it wasn't DS's sister that was at RM House? They may have included her when for whereabouts?

I would appreciate a link, if you have one, as all we know is that the phone call according to LE, made by JS, was prior to 1 and that he states he made the phone call to tell Rebecca that Max's condition changed. There is no proof of this at this time imho. I would love links though if you have them. TIA.

I am still curious if he also called AS at this time. AS was here, it was stated, to lend moral support to his brother. This sounds plausible and understandable, so I think that JS would have wanted his brother to know if there was a change a.s.a.p.

This leads me to consider the loud music at 1 am. If AS had gotten a phone call, why didn't he check out the music, or mention it to LE the following morning?:waitasec:
 
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