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    Lisa Doe believes she was kidnapped - Can you help?, 1960s

    I wasn't around back during the Delia Cly hoax ... and I'm kind of thankful for that ... but I received an invitation to a youtube video and a twitter link about a lady who thinks she was kidnapped in the 1960's ... she say's for "legal reasons" she can't give much information. This just sent red flags up to me ... but the story is compelling so I searched anyway and found that the picture of this person, as a child, looks a lot like Elizabeth Ann Gill ... when I read her thread I learned about Delia Cly. Just wanted those of you that know more about Cly to take a peek and see if this is the same song second verse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_hooah_wife View Post
    I wasn't around back during the Delia Cly hoax ... and I'm kind of thankful for that ... but I received an invitation to a youtube video and a twitter link about a lady who thinks she was kidnapped in the 1960's ... she say's for "legal reasons" she can't give much information. This just sent red flags up to me ... but the story is compelling so I searched anyway and found that the picture of this person, as a child, looks a lot like Elizabeth Ann Gill ... when I read her thread I learned about Delia Cly. Just wanted those of you that know more about Cly to take a peek and see if this is the same song second verse?

    TYIA

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    http://delilah1234.wordpress.com/200...-her-way-home/

    http://thelostnmissing.blogspot.com/...rl-do-you.html

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    That's easy, she's the Zodiac Killer's long lost stepdaughter ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by one_hooah_wife View Post
    I wasn't around back during the Delia Cly hoax ... and I'm kind of thankful for that ... but I received an invitation to a youtube video and a twitter link about a lady who thinks she was kidnapped in the 1960's ... she say's for "legal reasons" she can't give much information. This just sent red flags up to me ... but the story is compelling so I searched anyway and found that the picture of this person, as a child, looks a lot like Elizabeth Ann Gill ... when I read her thread I learned about Delia Cly. Just wanted those of you that know more about Cly to take a peek and see if this is the same song second verse?

    TYIA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT5fXysev1A

    http://delilah1234.wordpress.com/200...-her-way-home/

    http://thelostnmissing.blogspot.com/...rl-do-you.html
    She does resemble Elizabth Ann Gill. Hummm... Is there any information as to why she thinks she was a kidnap victim?
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    Serious answer: look past the pudding bowl haircut and there is some resemblance in the jawline. Coloring also matches.

    However look at Elizabeth's eyebrows - they are very long and extend out far beyond her eyes. The nose is quite narrow however and very pretty whereas the older girl's nose is much wider in proportion to her mouth. I would guess that the "earliest photo" is at about 5 years old, so maybe two years after the kidnapping - but those details still match all the way into the age progression to 44.

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    link says dna in codis..

    I agree with believe, proceed with caution. Can she give any non identifying information which would circumvent what she describes as legal reasons, or is the information she's made public all the info she is willing to share.

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    I sent an email to the address listed on the various links ... not to the person who forwarded me the information originally, and recieved a prompt reply. It is as follows

    Hello Pam:
    Thank you so much! I actually had DNA testing for Elizabeth Gill and it did not match. I am friends now with her sister. If you run across any other cases from that time frame please let me know. I appreciate the offer but not even sure what I could ask you to do. I would like to keep your email ]if that is ok. Have an awesome night!
    Well alrighty then, strange that she is friends with EAG's sister and did not come to us at WS directly?

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    Kind of reminds me of the Richard Barnes/Stephen Damman case. Barnes said he thought he was the kidnapped Damman boy, he even had the FBI and the father of the kidnapped boy involved- turned out, nope, not him. It was a huge story here because Damman's father lives in IA. Barnes' dad said he had no idea why his son thought he was the kidnapped Dammon boy.

    It's too bad she won't disclose any details, unfortunately, there are far more attention seekers or mentally ill folks out there. I'll keep her in mind just in case though.
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    Just so happens I was just looking at this case for an entirely different reason. The brown hair, blue eyes and 1965 disappearance are factors. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._kathleen.html

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    I have a feeling that with the publicity surrounding the Jaycee Dugard case, we may be seeing a lot of people coming out of the woodwork claiming that they were kidnapped as children.

    BTW, my above comment should not be construed as an opinion on this particular case, as I have no reason to believe one way or the other on whether this woman's claims are legitimate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by one_hooah_wife View Post
    I sent an email to the address listed on the various links ... not to the person who forwarded me the information originally, and recieved a prompt reply. It is as follows



    Well alrighty then, strange that she is friends with EAG's sister and did not come to us at WS directly?

    hmmm
    Ok, her dna is in codis. She is friends with EAG's sister. There is very little non identifying information in the links you shared in your first post. Such as an appx birth year. There is more information than a 'missing person' can ask for here at WS. Links to various data bases, support info, and the info this potentially abducted person is extremely limited. Look for example at Benjaman Kyle and the hours and hours he has poured over missing persons data bases. Does this person recall her mother having a regional accent of any kind? If she remembers the song, clearly she would remembr her mothers voice? singing with a southern drawl or a north eastern accent?

    Personally I would need a lot more non identifying information before I would choose to proceed with looking further into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billylee View Post
    Just so happens I was just looking at this case for an entirely different reason. The brown hair, blue eyes and 1965 disappearance are factors. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._kathleen.html
    This is exactly the case I thought of when I saw the picture. Thanks for posting this.






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    Here is a girl who was kidnapped in the 60's and resembles this girl somewhat: Judith Ann Elwell.

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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ll_judith.html

    But then, since there are so few 60's cases in Charlie, someone had to have already seen this and checked it out

    (one would think).
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    My hinky meter went off, which makes me feel a bit hypocritical, being nearly sure that I myself am not who my family says I am.
    But this one, there is a lot that really makes me wonder. For instance, I put everything that I could out there, minus current name and address, in the hunt to find out who I am or might be. She doesn't seem to do that and I can't think of any good legal reason to do so. If it's information about your own life, noone can stop you legally from telling it, and if you are desperate to find out who you are, you will share that info.
    So, yeah, my hinky meter went off.
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    While I don't really believe her, the first female child to pop into my head was Kathy Shea from Tyrone, PA. She disappeared in 1965. While she doesn't bear much resemblance to the adult Shea's, it's all that immediately sprang to mind.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/72dfpa.html
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