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    Richard Angelo & Exhuming Bodies

    Originally Posted by elmomom
    One possible explanation is that CPH seems to insert himself into dramatic events as a matter of routine. TWA 800, the water tower rescue, helping people by the side of the road, and so on. Plus, reportedly patrolling the Oak Beach Association in a car with flashing lights. He may be genuinely heroic or he may be an attention-seeker; it's very hard to tell from where I sit, and it seems there is evidence pointing in both directions.

    Of course, this behavior also fits the profile of a certain kind of killer.
    MOO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny9 View Post
    cph is an attention seeker and a grandoius story teller,i know quite of few nurses who worked wth him in good samaritan hospital in west islip,right off the pkwy
    Hey are you guys talking about Richard Angelo who was a nurse from Good Samaritan Hospital?

    http://crime.about.com/od/serial/a/richardangelo.htm

    Richard Angelo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Richard Angelo was 26 years old when he went to work at Good Samaritan Hospital on Long Island in New York. He had a background of doing good things for people as a former Eagle Scout and volunteer fireman. He also had an out-of-control desire to be recognized as a hero."
    Last edited by bessie; 06-06-2015 at 01:41 AM. Reason: repaired link

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspider View Post
    Hey are you guys talking about Richard Angelo who was a nurse from Good Samaritan Hospital?

    http://crime.about.com/od/serial/a/richardangelo.htm

    Richard Angelo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Richard Angelo was 26 years old when he went to work at Good Samaritan Hospital on Long Island in New York. He had a background of doing good things for people as a former Eagle Scout and volunteer fireman. He also had an out-of-control desire to be recognized as a hero."
    richard angelo killed my friends mother in good sam 25 yrs ago.hes a kook and a hero wanna be.just like someone else we know.but my friends who worked with cph when he was there can tell quite a bit of stories about him.

  3. #93
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    BAD !!!

    he talked like he was either drunk or high

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    Read more: http://www.vitals.com/doctor/profile...#ixzz1q8uLnc42


    hmm only ten days after Shannan went missing and the review says the EXACT same thing as Johnny Terry said about the phone calls. Its like almost too obvious and therefore I'm sometimes revert to thinking someone is trying to frame doc....?

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    Sherlock,
    The timing of that vitals post is extremely concerning to me. How many other comments were posted about the Dr. on that site? One or Two? Not many. Was he even seeing patients during that time period? Can that be documented? I would love to know whether or not LE was able to identify the user connected to the IP address who posted that comment. And if he or she is untraceable, to me that would say a lot more.

    With that said, I am still on the fence about the Dr. I have a friend who is well trained in reading body language, who from the very beginning pegged him as lying there on his doorstep. She could tell by the way he was standing, how his arms were positioned, his eye movements among other things that he appeared grandiose and manipulative to her. And that was in the very beginning, before we were aware of more details. I admit, he did appear a little creepy to me too, but that vitals post appeared to me that someone was trying to set him up. Either that or he was seeing patients (either on the record or not) and at that time he was off the wagon. And if he is responsible in some way for Shannan's death, being off the wagon at the time would explain why he'd be reckless to make a call to her mother using his own phone and then denying the content (if that is what happened.) Either way, that vitals comment should not be ignored. In my very humble opinion.

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    Maybe it is a former patient or family member of a former patient who is trying to frame the doc for the GB4 killings and SG. It is far fetched, out of the movies like, but if he is calculated and patient enough that could be possible.

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    correlation

    Quote Originally Posted by SherlockHomes View Post
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    he talked like he was either drunk or high

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    Read more: http://www.vitals.com/doctor/profile...#ixzz1q8uLnc42


    hmm only ten days after Shannan went missing and the review says the EXACT same thing as Johnny Terry said about the phone calls. Its like almost too obvious and therefore I'm sometimes revert to thinking someone is trying to frame doc....?
    Except John Terry had no connection to SG, Oak Beach, or CPH in May of 2010.
    John Terry did have a connection to the LISK prior to May 2010.
    So Sherlock, if you are observing an actual correlation, than it is because LISK = CPH.

    quod erat demonstrandum

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    Truth, I took nugtzer's post as questioning whether JT is involved with the
    Lisk killings and Shannan's death and using the doctor as a patsy.

    Am I even close nugzter?

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    Oops, i meant Sherlock's post, not nugzters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samantha Spade View Post
    Truth, I took nugtzer's post as questioning whether JT is involved with the
    Lisk killings and Shannan's death and using the doctor as a patsy.

    Am I even close nugzter?
    John Terry would need a time machine to do that. John Terry made the statements about the drunk calls prior to May 2010. John Terry didn't know SG, CPH, or anything about Oak Beach prior to Dec. 2010. Also, we don't know who the Vitals poster is, the poster is likely someone unrelated to the events of May 1, assuming the poster isn't a conspirator that is.

    I refer you back to my previous post, it is either a meaningless coincidence you are observing, or the correlation is a result of CPH being the LISK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthspider View Post
    Except John Terry had no connection to SG, Oak Beach, or CPH in May of 2010.
    John Terry did have a connection to the LISK prior to May 2010.
    So Sherlock, if you are observing an actual correlation, than it is because LISK = CPH.

    quod erat demonstrandum
    Truth can you find Johnny Terry and show him your "private eye" so he can tell us where the SKs house is?
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    Talking

    Quote Originally Posted by SherlockHomes View Post
    Truth can you find Johnny Terry and show him your "private eye" so he can tell us where the SKs house is?
    pm me his info or contact info, i'll link him.
    what is my "private eye"? hmmmm maybe I don't want to know.

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    Truth,
    Please hear me out before you contact this person.

    I am not trying to be argumentative to be a pain in the arse. I really am concerned. I know that you are convinced that the serial killer, or at least the serial killer of the GB4 and Shannan, looks very much like your avatar. But if he is, maybe he did not work alone and plays some part in a drug/sex trafficking ring.

    Is it NOT possible that JT really is involved and made up a story that he too received phonecalls from a drunk white guy? Yes, that was way before May 1, 2010, but sadistic drunk white guys aren't a rarity unfortunately, sorta like that mother who killed her kids and made up a story that some black guy did it. Okay, stay with me, if just to humor me. Okay, so with this theory, JT knows Pak or one of the other romeo pimps. Either they met through one of the "agencies" or "gangs" or some other underground culture that makes them money exploiting young women. Fast forward to the night Shannan was murdered. Something happened in Brewer's house that literally scared the pants off of her (I don't believe it was while she was running through thorny tree infested swampland). Now Brewer and Pak have to come up with a good story. They get in touch with Alex (who also is in involved in that subculture and who knows people. Maybe JT who may have been involved with getting rid of the girls who no longer were cooperative) and they come up with a story. "Let's frame an older white guy". It worked last time. Brewer knows the perfect candidate. "People will buy it, the guy is known as an oddball around these parts." So they take a cruise back out to Oak Beach, meet with PH, ask him to call Shannan's mother (here doc, here's her number.) I don't recall reading that Mari said he sounded drunk or not. Or, maybe he was connected someway too and it was in his best interest to make it appear to her mother that Shannan left OB and to search for her somewhere else, I don't know. But what I'm suggesting is that it is not soooooo far fetched that JT may be involved somehow, some way. And I would not want you to put yourself into a dangerous position.

    Okay, that's it. Have a good laugh. Tear my theory apart, it's one of many. Some really ludicrous, but not impossible. Now, I don't know if I necessarily believe that is what happened. Why? Because even though I don't know Fluke, I believe him or her. And if Fluke is telling the truth, I'd say you have a serial killer as your avatar. But please just ponder my theory before you contact JT. You're a smart and educated guy. A lot smarter than me. And you know more about what is going on behind the scenes than I do. But I wouldn't want your decisions to be clouded by what you do know. Because it's what we don't know that can really do us in sometimes.

    Respectfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samantha Spade View Post
    Truth,
    Please hear me out before you contact this person.

    I am not trying to be argumentative to be a pain in the arse. I really am concerned. I know that you are convinced that the serial killer, or at least the serial killer of the GB4 and Shannan, looks very much like your avatar. But if he is, maybe he did not work alone and plays some part in a drug/sex trafficking ring.......
    I snipped...
    Ms. Spade. Thanks so much for typing this!
    The theory you poast here is one I struggle with. I can't help but think that SG knew if she left that house before police arrived the night was going to end bad. These guys around these girls bother me!!!!

    SG's night though leaves us with. JB, Drifter, Pak, AD, GC, CPH and this extra person you guys are talking about now. That's alot of people involved in a big secret!

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    Thanks KPCrimeNY,
    I know, but I don't think it's a secret to police anymore. I just think LE has to prove it. And I wouldn't be surprised if there's a rogue cop involved in there somehow (or rather, a criminal who disguises himself in a cop's uniform.) But that is just my opinion, and I don't want to diverge from the topic with that. But I just don't buy JT's story that he accepted Melissa keeping secrets from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samantha Spade View Post
    Thanks KPCrimeNY,
    I know, but I don't think it's a secret to police anymore. I just think LE has to prove it. And I wouldn't be surprised if there's a rogue cop involved in there somehow (or rather, a criminal who disguises himself in a cop's uniform.) But that is just my opinion, and I don't want to diverge from the topic with that. But I just don't buy JT's story that he accepted Melissa keeping secrets from him.
    If you have an escort in your life, as a girlfriend, room mate, sister, or daughter, I think it is understood that they will be keeping "secrets" from you.

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