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    Explain the Blood in the Trunk

    The big evidence seems to be Maddie's blood in a rental car trunk THREE WEEKS after she went missing.

    WHAT????? HOW????

    How in the world could her parents have kept her body hidden before putting her in the trunk?

    I think it's blood transfer from a towel or a blanket. Only thing that makes sense.

    What do you all think?
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    I think your explanation makes a LOT of sense, Tricia.

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    I am with you that it is probably transfer. I have a hard time believing that with all the media attention on them,they toted her body around for nearly a month.

    I think that if they did it, they sedated her and she had a terrible reaction, which could have included vomiting blood and other fluids.
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    It has been reported that cadaver dogs hit on the car keys of that rental car. So, 3 weeks after Maddie's disappearing would have to mean Kate or Gerry came in contact with the body after renting the car otherwise they would be no cadaver odor.

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    Could it be from Maddie herself? Maybe she had dried blood on her
    and when they put her in the trunk to move the body it was transferred?

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    Quote Originally Posted by concernedperson View Post
    It has been reported that cadaver dogs hit on the car keys of that rental car. So, 3 weeks after Maddie's disappearing would have to mean Kate or Gerry came in contact with the body after renting the car otherwise they would be no cadaver odor.
    what exactly do the dogs need to get a "hit"? if she was killed in bed and laid there for 2 hours then her body was dumped and the blankets from the bed was not. how would the blanket carry the scent? 3 weeks later the blanket that her body was under and that has her blood on it is moved in the car. would that cause the dogs to alert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherri79 View Post
    what exactly do the dogs need to get a "hit"? if she was killed in bed and laid there for 2 hours then her body was dumped and the blankets from the bed was not. how would the blanket carry the scent? 3 weeks later the blanket that her body was under and that has her blood on it is moved in the car. would that cause the dogs to alert?
    I would think the dogs alerted because the hand that used the car keys had cadaver scent on them. The DNA in the trunk was some biological whether it was blood or decomposing remains. The cadaver scent lasts a long time once it has been established....I think it would be a little longer than 2 hours though to be fully pungent (sorry couldn't think of another word). I would have to research that.

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    Did I hear the news correct this afternoon about traces of blood being found in the hotel room or were they talking about the car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by concernedperson View Post
    decomposing remains
    Would decomposition cause, gosh this sounds awful, blood to 'leak' from body?

    The rental was 3 days after her disapperance right? Would that forensically be possible?

    It was my first thought concerned, but not sure if my theory even is plausable.

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    I go with transfer... if they hid sheets and clothing away that had her fluids on it, say in a bag or suitcase, the fluids would have had a hard time drying up... especially in a tropical setting... the moisture factor is a pain in tropical settings. A "3 week later transfer" could be very plausible in that setting. And yes, even the smell of a corpse could have been found, if the material at one point held her body long enough to have the postmortom fluids get on it.

    I thought I heard that the Madeleiene's DNA showed up in a cupboard of some sort, the flat that the McCann's rented after her disappearance. This would fit the "transfer" scenario of DNA, if the parents were moving the material from place to place, hiding the stuff and waiting for the opportune moment to get rid of the stuff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    Would decomposition cause, gosh this sounds awful, blood to 'leak' from body?

    The rental was 3 days after her disapperance right? Would that forensically be possible?

    It was my first thought concerned, but not sure if my theory even is plausable.
    yes, after a body bloats it collapses and the flesh becomes soft, then the fliuds begin to run out. 3 weeks later would have been about the time this stage of decomposition would take place if she died the day she vanished. But where was she for 3 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elphaba View Post
    I go with transfer... if they hid sheets and clothing away that had her fluids on it, say in a bag or suitcase, the fluids would have had a hard time drying up... especially in a tropical setting... the moisture factor is a pain in tropical settings. A "3 week later transfer" could be very plausible in that setting. And yes, even the smell of a corpse could have been found, if the material at one point held her body long enough to have the postmortom fluids get on it.

    I thought I heard that the Madeleiene's DNA showed up in a cupboard of some sort, the flat that the McCann's rented after her disappearance. This would fit the "transfer" scenario of DNA, if the parents were moving the material from place to place, hiding the stuff and waiting for the opportune moment to get rid of the stuff.
    Ohhhhhh, the rental was 3 WEEKS not 3 DAYS...dang, I misunderstood...hmmmm.

    Did they for sure say it was BLOOD specifically or just evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    Would decomposition cause, gosh this sounds awful, blood to 'leak' from body?

    The rental was 3 days after her disapperance right? Would that forensically be possible?

    It was my first thought concerned, but not sure if my theory even is plausable.
    from a horrible case we had locally i know "fluids" leak. a large amount of think brown foul smelling liquid leaked from the body of a 7 yr old in a week. i also remember learning a little about decomp in science. all the blood in a body flows to the lowest point not long after death causing discoloration that can prove a body was moved.

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    Also it has been said that when a frozen body starts to defrost, blood will leak out.

    Now someone said they didn't think there were freezers around big enough for her Madeleine to fit into... And I really really hate to bring this up, and I am sorry that I've been 'little miss far-fetched' on many occasions here lately, but erm, what if Madeleine was disposed of little by little... so to speak?

    I know most of the blood would have been gone then, but they also said it was only a tiny bit they found.

    Christine yes it has been said it is Madeleine's blood that was found (links in the general thread).

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    This is by no means conclusive but a trial of cadaver dogs indicate most would be able to scent remains at the 2.5-3 hour mark from death. So, it also means that there would be no chance of the dogs missing a cadaver scent days or weeks later.

    http://www.csst.org/cadaver_scent.html

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