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I think that Jaycee was nothing more than a possession or chattel to PG--something to be used. JMO
i think that jaycee was nothing more than a possession or chattel to pg--something to be used. Jmo
i dont think so either.
i think only person he idolizes or worshpis is himself
IMO there is NO signs at all of being idolized.
I have seen that remark on the threads before and NOP -don't agree.
ORIGINAL: kbl8201:
maybe he started to idolize her after she had survied a decade or so of his horrible abuse
Make up your mind...You are contradicting yourself.
Tying into that, it's really telling that the people who started pulling the most alarm bells were people who were not regular residents or a part of that neighborhood at all. There was the girlfriend of Damon Robinson, who I believe was not a regular resident/live-in girlfriend and of course the campus police officers. It's like everyone else who regularly lived or worked there, even if they saw something, just shrugged it off and acted like all of the things that they saw were just more reasons to avoid the creepy guy down the street.
I used the term "idolize" because from what I've read, her picture benig put on the business card, his comments to people, "that's my girl, isn't she a good looker?; the Angel references, that sort of thing. And of course it was after he abused her that this "relevation of his" or change of life, or whatever he wants to call it, came about. I was simply putting my thought out there, that maybe the reason he started having this "change of heart" toward her, was because she bore him children when the others did not. Before that, you bet your butt, she was treated horribly and no better than a piece of meat, as one of the officers said about his treatment of Katie Calloway. No one here is coming close to suggesting that he treated Jaycee well!
Tizzle--You know I've pondered all the cat collectibles. It's certainly possible that PG, on his own or with NG's or the little girls' encouragement, bought or found those items for Jaycee. My thought is that they are a way to kind of placate her. It reminds me of older ladies in nursing homes who rarely get visits from their families. However, their rooms will be chock full of a specific collectible--frogs, cats, owls, dolls, etc. I think relatives will send these things to take the place of being present for someone, possibly to assuage their conscience. Now, I am NOT for a single second suggesting that PG or NG has a conscience. It's clear they don't. But possibly they indulged a particular interest of Jaycee's just to keep her quiet.
And, please note that I am not judging anyone who sends their great aunt another frog figurine. She might really enjoy them!!
I used the term "idolize" because from what I've read, her picture benig put on the business card, his comments to people, "that's my girl, isn't she a good looker?; the Angel references, that sort of thing. And of course it was after he abused her that this "relevation of his" or change of life, or whatever he wants to call it, came about. I was simply putting my thought out there, that maybe the reason he started having this "change of heart" toward her, was because she bore him children when the others did not. Before that, you bet your butt, she was treated horribly and no better than a piece of meat, as one of the officers said about his treatment of Katie Calloway. No one here is coming close to suggesting that he treated Jaycee well!
PLEASE Tizzle help me to understand why on earth you take up for that scum bag ?The cat books and trinkets could also be evidence of PG's offering of "repentance" to JC and/or girls. To JC for the sins he commited against her and/or to the girls for the sins he commited surrounding their conception. You have to remember that he's a fanatic and likely came to the belief that he was doing nothing wrong as far as JC/girls were concerned. He may have came to idolize her/them or he may have developed feelings of guilt for what he had done to her/them thus making him want to "make it right" by showering her/them w/ these items. By doing so, he may have, in his crazy mind, felt that he was repenting, thus "washing away all his sins".
PLEASE Tizzle help me to understand why on earth you take up for that scum bag ?
They do NOT change. There are enough studies that tell us they do NOT change.
I do not care about his extremist religious BS.
He himself admitted that violently raping turns him on.
the only thing I MAY believe is that he did not have to be violent with her after some years,
maybe just got his B jobs from her, and went to find his "rape" enjoyment else where.
BUT NO THERE WAS NO CHANGE OF HEART, HE HAS NO HEART.
I am in no way "taking up" for PG. Please don't assume that just because you can't understand what I'm saying that I am simply on his side. You couldn't be more off. Nor did I say there was a change of heart. I said he may have come to believe, in his warped mind, that he was no longer doing anything wrong. Not the same thing. We can all agree his was a mind that was warped beyond warping.
Just because YOU don't care about his religious BS doesn't mean it doesn't play a pivotal role in the last 18 years. Sorry if you can't wrap your head around that. My posts are my theories and the purpose of this forum is to post them. Don't attack me because you're not willing to look at things from a different angle.
Also, I'm well aware that the types of behaviors that PG displayed are habitual. I don't need you to remind me. Thanks
And please stop making references to "b jobs" where JC is concerned, it is rather crude, insensitive and disrespectful to her.
the picture on the buisness card is not her.
and the quote about her beeing a good looker is nauseating
Fair enough, but I don't agree.I am in no way "taking up" for PG. Please don't assume that just because you can't understand what I'm saying that I am simply on his side. You couldn't be more off. Nor did I say there was a change of heart. I said he may have come to believe, in his warped mind, that he was no longer doing anything wrong. Not the same thing. We can all agree his was a mind that was warped beyond warping.
Just because YOU don't care about his religious BS doesn't mean it doesn't play a pivotal role in the last 18 years. Sorry if you can't wrap your head around that. My posts are my theories and the purpose of this forum is to post them. Don't attack me because you're not willing to look at things from a different angle.
Also, I'm well aware that the types of behaviors that PG displayed are habitual. I don't need you to remind me. Thanks
And please stop making references to "b jobs" where JC is concerned, it is rather crude, insensitive and disrespectful to her.
I am sorry, but IMO "they" and especially PG had no heart so there can not be a "change of heart".
She was a property for him to use any way he wanted. :furious:
Just because she had some cat books and cat trinkets is absolutely no evidence of idolizing her. In fact it only means that he probably used that to manipulate more. I can actually see this occurs. "here is a trinket, give me a B job" :furious: