Hello WS
July 29, 2008
Lee Anthony's Statement to LE
LA: So I said, ok, I met them outside in the driveway as they were pulling in. My, when my sister and my mother uh, get out of the vehicle,
its very obvious to me they had been at least yelling back and forth with each other uhm, my sister conveyed something to the extent of uh, "you know you won't even listen to me and why do I bother?" Uhm, my mother uhm, when I'm trying to ask her what's going on she just say is,
"your sister knows where Caylee is and she won't take her to me, or "she won't take me to see her," sorry. Uh, and then she continues to say, "I'm going to call the police and you need to talk to your sister," So Casey immediately went inside, sat on the bed, and I stood in her doorway and was trying to be mediator through, from my mother who is in the living room and my sister who was in her room...
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LA: Um, for what seemed to be a better part of 30 or 45 minutes I tried my best to stall my mom and get through to
my sister that as she maintained, "I know where Caylee is. She's with the nanny and shes..."
LE:
Have you ever seen this nanny?
LA:
No sir
LE:
Have you ever seen your sister field a phone call from the nanny, or make a phone call to the nanny?
LA:
No sir
LE: Okay
LA: Uhm...
LE: And did she refer to her by any other name than the nanny?
LA: No
LE: Because I've heard Zanny the nanny and all kinds of, but I've never heard...
LA: I have never heard...
LE: ...a name.
LA:
I have actually never heard the name Zenaida until when she told that to the first responding officer. (note: RG says he was told "Zanny's" full name)
LE: And that's the 1st time in your life you heard...
LA:
That's the first time I ever heard...
LE: Zenaida?
LA:
The name Zenaida
LE: Okay
LA: And I don't blame her for that(chuckles)so I was trying to facilitate other options to my sister by saying, I will go. Tell me where I can go to, to see Caylee myself. I'll go for five minutes, I'll do it your way. I'll go and just make sure that she's okay.
I even offered to have my roommate, a good friend of mine and a good friend of ours, go to verify that she's okay. And my sister maintained that you know,
"mom won't allow it to happen." While my mother continued in the background to say, "That's unacceptable I want her here. I want her home..."(skip)So, I didn't really force that issue very much longer. Uhm...
LE: Yeah
LA: ...until my sister started saying things like, uhm because my mother would walk out of the room periodically every 10, 15 minutes it seemed like because she's just getting frustrated...(skip).
So I know she wasn't calling at that point...going outside to clear her head.
(skip)
LA:
So every time my mother would go outside I'd try to ask something to my sister that maybe she wouldn't feel comfortable saying in front of my mom. You know asking what's, you know, what's going on? You know, what's the deal?
And, she still maintained everything, but she would say,
uhm that's when she opened up to me and said, uhm, uhm, "mom has uhm, thrown it up to me that I'm an unfit mother and you know, maybe she's right and maybe I am." She offered up to me for the first time
that uhm, my mother has referred, said to my sister that uhm, even through Caylee's been the best thing and the best mistake that she was indeed a mistake. That she was Casey's mistake.
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LE:
Did it seem like an overall theme that she's...
LA: Yes
LE: ...
carrying with her that her mother was disappointed in her...
LA:
Right
LE: ...because of...
LA:
Or maybe not feel like Casey is being the mother that she should be towards Caylee.
LE: Okay
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LE:
You said that your sister told you that uh, "Because I'm a spiteful *****?"
LA: Uh, hum
LE: And did she tell you where mom could hear?
LA: She didn't whisper it. She didn't also say it necessarily make it a point to say it as loud so my mom can hear it. However, I think she realized that even, that even my mom was listening. So even speaking at the level I'm currently speaking on, which is a normal level...
LE: Uh-hum
LA: That its going to be heard.
So I know she didn't care that that was being conveyed to my mom.
LE: She...
LA:
But she did mention yes, "well maybe I'm" uh, because when I asked her, why won't you , you know, allow us to see Caylee? And she said, "Well, maybe I'm a spiteful *****."
(skip)
LA: This, this seems, this doesn't make any sense to me.
She's like, "well maybe this should have been done a long time ago, I've stolen money from mom, I've been a bad daughter. Uhm, you know I've been, she said. I've stolen money from you, you know I've been untrustworthy, you know." And she goes, "and maybe I have been a, a, a bad, mother, daughter and sister." And she said, uh, "you know so this should have been done a long time ago."
(skip)
LA: And
my mother comes back in, loud enough so my sister will hear, talking, "The cops are on their way, she's going to have to prove it." Yada-yadda, my sister's still on um, her bed and I, and I come at her with a different approach.
(skip)
LA: I said, the officer is going to say, "Good evening Mrs. A. Uh, where is your daughter?" That's exactly what he is going to say, and what are you going to say?
And she says, "She's with the nanny. She's sleeping." And then again playing the role of the police officer, I say to my sister, "Great Mrs. Anthony, I'm so happy to hear that. That's going to be a relief for everybody, so hop in the car. Your mom's going to follow let's go get her."
And when I look at my sister for the response, she's, she's got this look on her face like...
LE: You just gave her a slap of reality?
LA: Exactly
LE:
She's going to be held to task?
LA: Right
LE: By the, by the cops now.
LA: Yes
LE:
Not just the family?
LA:
Exactly
(skip)
LA: Uhm, and when I, so I gave probably a good ten, fifteen seconds to respond until I gave her, just kind of like shrugged shoulders look of you know, what's it going to be? What, what are you going to say?
And then at that moment is when Casey began to breakdown and cry and she said, "Lee, do you want to know the truth? I haven't seen Caylee in 31 days." And then she repeated to herself, "I haven't seen my daughter for 31 days." And at this point her hands are in her face. She's sitting(inaudible) her hands are in her face and she's crying. And I take, her repeating herself actually gave me enough time to let that sink into me, and instead of getting completely worked up, just get, try to get the facts of, where have you been? Where is the last time you've seen her? And all these like type things.
LE:
31 days would be the 15th June?
(skip)
LA: Absolutely. So uhm,
so she conveyed that to me. Uhm, pretty much as she was conveying that to me and uhm, crying. I was attempting to whisper to her,
because my mother was back into the house at that point, or just coming back into the house. I was trying to whisper to her, because for whatever reason she hadn't opened up to my mother yet.
LE: Uh-hum
LA: And I felt like she was only willing to open up to me at this point now that I've gotten through to her. You know, when's the last, when, when, you know and all these questions.
And, and that's when she goes, "she was kidnapped." And she wasn't speaking in details, she was speaking in generalities and as soon as that started happening my mother realized that I'm whispering to my sister, she gets you know, smart to the situation and realizes my sister is saying something and busts into the room.
And again, the door wasn't shut or anything, but she comes into the room, sees that my sister was crying, and she said, and actually the first thing she asked her, she says, "What have you done?"
LE: Really?
LA: That's the first question my mom asks her.
(continued in next post)
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