GUILTY Australia - Five Lin family members murdered, North Epping, NSW, 18 July 2009

[Mrs G Norris]

Amy Dale ‏@amydale_tele 2m
Crown says: Xie told prisoner he disposed of murder weapon on drive to collect in-laws and was confident he hadn't been detected #xietrial

This prisoner is going to be an interesting witness ..

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Accused murderer Lian Bin "Robert" Xie was motivated by "bitterness" and a "loss of face" when he crept into the home of his brother-in-law and killed him and his family with a "hammer-like instrument" as they slept in their beds, a court has heard.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/robert-xi...court-hears-20140509-zr811.html#ixzz31Btcfw41

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Mazoe Ford ‏@mazoeford 9m
Crown alleges Xie told a prisoner his wife was sedated the night of the murders so had no idea if he left bed. #xietrial #EyewitnessNews

Leonie Ryan ‏@LeonieFRyan 5m
Xie moved Min and Lily's bodies.They were in a 'v-shape' on the bed. Blood had pooled on the ground from head trauma #xietrial @NewsTalk2UE

Leonie Ryan ‏@LeonieFRyan 1m
Not one adult made it out of their beds. Min & Lily had severe wounds to their faces #xietrial @NewsTalk2UE

Mazoe Ford ‏@mazoeford 1m
Crown: 9 year old Terry was hit with the weapon a minimum of 18 times. #xietrial #EyewitnessNews

 

[Mrs G Norris]

The weapon was a hammer like object attached to a rope, I wonder if they know that from blood splatter and he swung it around like a slungshot: http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/90...23-slungshot-darned-if-i-know-where-post.html

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Kelly Fedor ‏@KellyFedor 2m
Jury told four of the five victims had been asphyxiated as well as beaten with a small hammer like object. #xietrial @9NewsSyd

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Kelly Fedor ‏@KellyFedor 2m
Gasps in the court as the crown tells the jury Terry was alive for 1-2hrs after the attack, Henry for 30mins. #xietrial @9NewsSyd

Mazoe Ford ‏@mazoeford 57s
Crown: Xie used vastly more force than was necessary in order to kill the 5 victims. #xietrial #EyewitnessNews

Mazoe Ford ‏@mazoeford 1m
Crown: After bodies found Xie was not concerned about the safety of his family because he committed the murders. #xietrial #eyewitnessnews

Mazoe Ford ‏@mazoeford 28s
Crown: Hoax letter sent to surviving family after murders demanding $128,345 over a drug debt that did not exist. #xietrial #eyewitnessnews

 

[MsAnais]

Thanks, Mrs G, for all of your fabulous work keeping us updated!!!:loveyou:

 

[Mrs G Norris]

No problem, I didn't know most of these details and was semi amazed as they came through the feed! Looks like an interesting trial.

 

[FigTree]

Thanks, Mrs G, for all of your fabulous work keeping us updated!!!:loveyou:

Second that!
Great work - thankyou!

 

[marlywings]

The weapon was a hammer like object attached to a rope, I wonder if they know that from blood splatter and he swung it around like a slungshot: http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/90...23-slungshot-darned-if-i-know-where-post.html

Or a Chinese meteor hammer?? From what I see they're attached to a chain but would be easy enough to remove the chain & replace with rope.

Meteor hammer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[marlywings]

Case against Robert Xie for murdering Lin family like a jigsaw puzzle, court hears

May 9, 2014 - 2:17PM

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/case-agai...court-hears-20140509-zr7p8.html#ixzz31CtPBeiu

The case of murder against Lian Bin "Robert" Xie is like a jigsaw puzzle with each piece of evidence fitting together to give the whole picture, Senior Crown prosecutor Mark Tedeschi, QC has told a Sydney jury.

Mr Xie was an ear, nose and throat specialist in his native China before leaving the medical profession and working as a factory manager.

He migrated to Australia in 2002 and ran a restaurant in Melbourne until 2005 when he moved to Sydney with his wife.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/case-agai...court-hears-20140509-zr7p8.html#ixzz31CtuBNLg

 

[marlywings]

Robert Xie trial - who's who

May 9, 2014 - 12:45PM

These are main players in the trial of Robert Xie who is accused of killing the Lin family in their home in North Epping, Sydney.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/robert-xie-trial--whos-who-20140509-zr7da.html#ixzz31CuGFlsg

 

[marlywings]

Robert Xie driven by bitterness in murdering Lin family, court hears

May 9, 2014 - 5:56PM

Accused murderer Lian Bin "Robert" Xie was motivated by "bitterness" and a "loss of face" when he crept into the home of his brother-in-law and killed him and his family with a "hammer-like instrument" as they slept in their beds, a court has heard.

In his opening address to Mr Xie's trial in the NSW Supreme Court on Friday, Crown prosecutor Mark Tedeschi, QC, said that the nature of the attacks on the family, and the fact that nothing was taken suggested that they were neither robberies nor sexual attacks


Mr Tedeschi said that, some time after the murders, Mr Xie told an inmate at Long Bay jail "information" that suggested the motive for the crimes was a "loss of face", something which had particular significant in Chinese culture.

Earlier, Mr Tedeschi outlined a series of factors that pointed to a single killer acting alone, and someone who knew the layout of the house intimately, as was the case with Mr Xie.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/robert-xi...court-hears-20140509-zr811.html#ixzz31Cur3T8d

 

[MsAnais]

Robert Xie driven by bitterness in murdering Lin family, court hears

May 9, 2014 - 5:56PM

Accused murderer Lian Bin "Robert" Xie was motivated by "bitterness" and a "loss of face" when he crept into the home of his brother-in-law and killed him and his family with a "hammer-like instrument" as they slept in their beds, a court has heard.

In his opening address to Mr Xie's trial in the NSW Supreme Court on Friday, Crown prosecutor Mark Tedeschi, QC, said that the nature of the attacks on the family, and the fact that nothing was taken suggested that they were neither robberies nor sexual attacks


Mr Tedeschi said that, some time after the murders, Mr Xie told an inmate at Long Bay jail "information" that suggested the motive for the crimes was a "loss of face", something which had particular significant in Chinese culture.

Earlier, Mr Tedeschi outlined a series of factors that pointed to a single killer acting alone, and someone who knew the layout of the house intimately, as was the case with Mr Xie.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/robert-xi...court-hears-20140509-zr811.html#ixzz31Cur3T8d

I wonder what the 'loss of face' was caused by?

 

[marlywings]

I wonder what the 'loss of face' was caused by?

Maybe something to do with this??...

Xie, who was born in Ghuanzhou, China, ran a buffet-style Chinese restaurant in Melbourne which he opened in December 2001.

In 2004, he was knocked back by the Migration Review Tribunal when he applied to bring over three chefs from China so he upgrade to an upmarket restaurant.

He has said that as a result, his restaurant folded, when he then moved to Sydney where he was unemployed, before taking over the Lin family's newsagency

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/lin-family-murder-arrests/story-e6freuy9-1226050334972

 

[FigTree]

Maybe something to do with this??...

Xie, who was born in Ghuanzhou, China, ran a buffet-style Chinese restaurant in Melbourne which he opened in December 2001.

In 2004, he was knocked back by the Migration Review Tribunal when he applied to bring over three chefs from China so he upgrade to an upmarket restaurant.

He has said that as a result, his restaurant folded, when he then moved to Sydney where he was unemployed, before taking over the Lin family's newsagency

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/lin-family-murder-arrests/story-e6freuy9-1226050334972

@Isisrising and Marlywings

Where did I read he was a Doctor in China before he immigrated to Australia - (Throat Nose Ear Dr.) I cant find the article for a link.
Can anyone help with that?

It might be about him saving face - he had been a Doctor - then his business had closed and was unemployed.
:dunno:

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[Mrs G Norris]

@Isisrising and Marlywings

Where did I read he was a Doctor in China before he immigrated to Australia - (Throat Nose Ear Dr.) I cant find the article for a link.
Can anyone help with that?

It might be about him saving face - he had been a Doctor - then his business had closed and was unemployed.
:dunno:

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Yes, I read that too .. ear, nose and throat wasn't it? He wanted that business of theirs IMO because he had made a few attempts to find his way in Australia and none of them had worked out. Also, how is it going to be justified that Brenda was allowed to go and live with the man who murdered her whole family, did police not suspect him from the start?

 

[MsAnais]

You're right FigTree & Mrs Norris. :seeya: Here's the link:

Mr Xie was an ear, nose and throat specialist in his native China before leaving the medical profession and working as a factory manager.

He migrated to Australia in 2002 and ran a restaurant in Melbourne until 2005 when he moved to Sydney with his wife.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/case-agai...court-hears-20140509-zr7p8.html#ixzz31Gg2iFpz

 

[FigTree]

9th May 2014. SMH - Read more:

The Crown case is that bloodied footprints at the crime scene on Boundary Road, North Epping, point to Mr Xie as the perpetrator of the crimes.
An analysis of these prints allegedly showed that the killer moved efficiently from one room to another, deliberately killing the adults first because they represented the greatest threat of “resistance or detection”.
The prints also allegedly matched a particular type of Asics running shoe that Mr Xie allegedly favoured.
The court heard that when Mr Xie subsequently learned from his wife that police were interested in this aspect of the evidence, police secretly recorded him cutting up his Asics shoe boxes and flushing them down the toilet.

Brenda Lin (pixelated) with her family who were murdered in their Epping home. Photo: Supplied
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I think I read that the trial would last 80 days.
Long way to go yet.

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[sleepinoz]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/05/12/13/09/xie-confessed-murders-to-inmate-court

Accused Lin family murderer Robert Xie allegedly told a fellow inmate that he had "martial arts training" and knew how to incapacitate people.

Lian Bin "Robert" Xie is accused of wielding a "hammer-like weapon" when he murdered his wife's brother Min "Norman" Lin, 45, Mr Lin's wife Yun "Lily" Li Lin, 44 and their sons Henry, 12, and Terry, 9 in their Sydney home in the early hours of July 18, 2009.

He is also alleged to have killed Lily's sister, Yun Bin "Irene" Yin, 39.

Xie, who has pleaded not guilty to the Epping murders, was charged in 2010 and taken to Long Bay prison.

It was here, crown prosecutor Mark Tedeschi QC told his trial on Monday, that he befriended a fellow inmate, known only as 'Witness A'.

During a series of recorded and unrecorded conversations it is alleged Xie "confided a number of things" to him about the murders.