CA CA - East Area Rapist aka The Original Night Stalker 1976-86

[AKWILKS]

If you recognize this voice or this writing: The Sacramento Sheriff's Department has asked that their new tip line be put on the A/E board. All tips sent through this link earinfo@sacsheriff.comwill go directly to the EA

 

[Robin Hood]

This is interesting - look at the bottom of the self drawn map, you can see something that looks like the words ''Milling'' and ''Jene'' now read this

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_Millington"]June Millington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

''June Millington and her younger sister Jean moved with their family from the Philippines to Sacramento, California in 1961''

 

[Robin Hood]

The map, IMO shows a lake marked as Lake apartments and a creek running from the lake up through residential properties and stopping at the boundary of the last house. The xxxx's near the lake I would think are trees.

Edited to add

http://www.lamag.com/features/2013/2/27/in-the-footsteps-of-a-killer/page/5#thenotebook

''The third page is the hand-drawn map. Investigators examined the unusual markings on the land area and figured out they represented a change of grade and elevation for drainage purposes. Roofing is also an apparent interest: The two symbols on the bottom right are standard indicators showing left- and right-side elevations of a house, suggesting rooflines.

Further analysis led investigators to believe the mapmaker possibly dabbled in landscape architecture, civil engineering, or land-use planning. They’ve tried unsuccessfully to find the area depicted on the map. Pool believes the drawing resembles Golden State’s preferred attack neighborhood, and that it’s a fantasy.

On the back of the map, amid a series of doodles and girls’ names, is the word punishment scrawled hard in black pen with the letter p written backward. Right above the word punishment, in faint handwriting, are the words “Come from Snelling.” At least that’s what Pool believes. It’s the last name of the man murdered in Visalia''.

 

[JCM]

NEWS BREAK!

FINALLY POSSIBLE WRITING IN THE EAR/ONS CASE!

http://www.lamag.com/offtherecord

Asking for help from all interested members, even if this has not been a case you have studied much.

It would be great to ELIMINATE or INCLUDE Kaczynski and/or The Zodiac, and other suspects and killers.

I have never in any way (and still don't) think Ted K. had anything to do with either the Zodiac or EAR/ONS crimes.

I'm sorry.

 

[JCM]

I want to know more about the dog. If LE found the owners how did they explain it going missing ? Was it returned ? Did it wander back home etc. I have certain friends that could take my dog and he'd behave, So, I want to know more about the dog.

RH, in Michelle McNamara's article in LAMag, she mentions 5 myths about this case. One of the one's she mentions is the German Shepard.

It Was the Man with a Three-Toed White German ShepherdForensic specialists were able to determine that dog prints found outside the scene of the murders of Dr. Robert Offerman and Debra Alexandria Manning (Goleta, December 1979) came from a three-toed white German shepherd. A man with a German shepherd was allegedly spotted around the time of the murders of Cheri Domingo and Gregory Sanchez (Goleta, July 1981).

Goleta is a small town. A three-toed white German shepherd is a specific dog. Many followers of the case have glommed on to this clue, believing it may be the detail that solves the case.

But investigators from multiple jurisdictions all say the same thing: The dog is a dead end. The lead has been thoroughly checked out, and they’re comfortable with their conclusions on the issue.

Just another red herring.

 

[JCM]

I think the map could be at the corner of Hollister and Storke in Goleta. I wonder if the guy thought he might have had the chance to develop that area. If you turn the map so that the left side is pointing north the store area seems to match up real close. At least to my eye.

I wonder if the names on the pages might have been his idea for streetnames.

Cliff May, the house designer, seems to be in important figure in this case for me. He was from San Diego, he had spanish blood, his ancestors even had a landgrant from the Spanish. I wonder who he might have had working for him.

I am starting to believe that this case is really connected to Vicki Morgans. Seriously.

William Morgan Hetrick seems to pop up everywhere. He knew Lyman, Fletcher Jones. Arthur Jones. And so many many other people. Some of ended up dead in plane crashes. Others in jail for drug smuggling. Not that Hetrick was the Ear.

Dewclaw, you have some real specifics there. Have you ever posted on the A&E message board?

 

[Robin Hood]

RH, in Michelle McNamara's article in LAMag, she mentions 5 myths about this case. One of the one's she mentions is the German Shepard.



Just another red herring.

Yeah, Dewclaw gave me some info about the dog. Thanks.

 

[Tober]

AKWILKS,

Concerning your post #139:

The written and drawn items you listed and provided examples of are too similar in handwriting AND drawing syle, spacing, and scale to be able to state with reasonable probability that they were each written/drawn by different individuals; they are similar enough to warrant further examination.

 

[Tober]

I have never in any way (and still don't) think Ted K. had anything to do with either the Zodiac or EAR/ONS crimes.

I'm sorry.

Ted Kaczynski (Unabomber) has alibis for most of the DNA-linked Golden State Killer (EAR/ONS) crimes.

He isn't considered by LE investigators to be a suspect (at all) in that case.

 

[AKWILKS]

Ted Kaczynski (Unabomber) has alibis for most of the DNA-linked Golden State Killer (EAR/ONS) crimes.

He isn't considered by LE investigators to be a suspect (at all) in that case.

Well, some investigators on Zodiac and also on EAR/ONS have tried to get Ted's DNA to include or exclude him for these crimes.

The FBI established that for almost every single Unabomber crime or mailing, the majority of which were in North Cal, SF or Sacramento , they had hotel records for a hotel in Helena that Ted would stay at within 30 days of going out of state to do these CA crimes and mailings, or he would stay there with 30 days of returning from being out of state.

There are also hotel stays, indicative of out of state trips to CA, with no matching Unabomber crimes, BUT EACH IS WITHIN 30 DAYS OF A ONS CRIME, INCLUDING CRUZ IN 1986.

I have read the statements of Sacramento hotel clerks who say Ted stayed there but the FBI doesn't reveal the dates.

The FBI states that he would usually stay at this hotel in Helena, MT within a week to 30 days either before or after a crime. In other words, on his way out of state (most often to California) he would stay here, or on his way back. He sometimes left one day before paid checkout time. In regards to the four dates I can find in the relevant time period, EACH ONE COINCIDES WITH AN ORANGE COUNTY MURDER TAKING PLACE WITHIN ONE WEEK TO THIRTY DAYS OF HIS STAY.

Paid Hotel Stay Orange County Murder

April 14 - 18, 1980 Lyman and Charlene Smith, March 13, 1980

May 12 - 14, 1980 Dorothy Jane Scott, May 27, 1980

August 13 - 15, 1980 Keith and Patrice Harrington, August 19, 1980

April 7 - 9, 1986

---------------------Janelle Lisa Cruz, May 4, 1986

May 28-30, 1986

Other than a June 10, 1980 mail bombing in Chicago, there were no other bombings or mailings in 1980 or 1986.

Thus, it is unknown why Kaczynski stayed in the hotel for these times above, something he generally only did when going to or coming back from an out of state crime. Therefor it is very interesting indeed that these hotel stays, indicitive of out of state trips to CA, match ONS murders.

There was a train derailed in Goleta the week of the first ONS attack there in October 1979 - that at a time when Ted was burning trucks and earth movers and putting bombs on planes.

There was also a pipe bomb placed behind a computer store in Orange County CA - the EXACT MO OF KACZYNSKI - the summer of the Cruz murder and a few miles away from where she was killed in Orange County.

 

[AKWILKS]

In regards to the possible writing from the EAR/ONS:

Understand these items were found in the street at an EAR attack, "as if" they had fallen out of the attacker's car.

It could be a plant.

It could be that EAR/ONS stole a person's notebook from a library or school, so the notebook writing is not his, but the map and the "punishment" page are. Does the writing on the "punishment" page - "Melanie, Come from Snelling, Milling june" match or not the notebook writing?

Prof Claude Snelling was killed by the Visalia Ransacker, so if it says "Snelling" that tends to prove EAR/ONS was the VR. Detective Pool thinks it says Snelling and I agree. Some of the web researchers doubt this, and claim it says "Smell" and that the seeming "g" is just bleed through. Opinions?

Look at the way this author wrote the "g" in "Milling", and compare it to the "g" in "Snelling". I think it is a match.

Sacramento County Sheriff's Department- NEW EAR TIP LINE

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[Dewclaw]

Has anyone considered the timeline between ONS crimes, the Delorean sting and trial, the time that Hetrick was out of the picture and in jail, and the murder of Vicki Morgan? Also the plane crashes of Judge Heaton, and Fletcher Jones? I am still not saying Hetrick was the ear, only that he might have had some contact him. When you consider that Max Mermelstein was a part of that also it makes me think that there was some dangerous people involved with Hetrick. Also that people like Barry Seal, Hetrick, Arthur Jones were all in and out of Louisianna, Florida, and Arkansas and flying in and out of the country at will. The connections between Seal, Hetrick, IranContra, Reagan and Bush, The Bloomingdales seem fascinating.

 

[AKWILKS]

You are losing me a little here dewclaw, but based on your message to me, is this a better illustration of what you were trying to point out with the map and the Hollister and Storke area of Goleta? If not maybe you can create it better than me. I do see a definite interesting similarity but I do not think it is a match.

 

[Tober]

AKWILKS,

You do nice and very thorough work.

The limited sample of the assumed Golden State Killer writing is too similar (generalized) to known Ted Kaczynski writing and known Zodiac writing to rule them out as the writer, but too small of a sampling to state anything further.

 

[Dewclaw]

I see a similarity on the section in the southwest corner of the intersection. If you turn the sketch one turn clockwise so the left side of the sketch is north and then align the north side to Hollister and the east side to Storke, I think the stores align fairly well. If this was a sketch from the planning stage on this development it could show me that someone was planning to build a lake there and then build the houses. Developers make many of these and submit them to the cities for approval as well as to utility companies to make arrangements on how to provide services to the houses. Very frequently they get rejected and the developers have to redo them. Also sometimes the developers send the rejected ones to the utility companies and the companies put the utilities in the wrong places. Sometimes under homes or in the middle of streets. Developers might also use these to show builders or garner financing for future work. I wonder if Lyman might have been holding up this project. If this is from Storke and Hollister, and it was from the ears occupation, I think this would be enough to find him. The fact that it was found in Sac is incredible.

Or the left side of the sketch would be Hollister, the top would be Storke. I see alot of maps like this. Dont ask me about handwriting analysis.

 

[AKWILKS]

 

[swelters]

Trying to link this guy with the unabomber is just idiotic, and a possibly damaging distraction

 

[Dewclaw]

The idea I have for this sketch is that is a whole section. maybe 160 acres and a mile square. It is possible that it never approval in this form due laws concerning environmental impact, low income housing, fair land use? It seems that the houses might have been very large if you go by the scale of the drawing and that would explain a clubhouse, tennis courts, pool, and manmade lake. Its possible there would have been too much water running into it in the rainy season and not enough in the summer. If you look at what is south of the store fronts at Hollister and Storke now, it includes a park, and apts, things I would expect to see if the original didnt get approved. The fact that the sketch is written with the stores on the top of the page reinforces my opinion that it is a planning sketch for that Hollister location. On the sketch though the road to the freeway is not at the same angle, but it is still right there.

I have been wondering if it might not be his occupation but a drawing he received from someone like the Harringtons or Lyman Smith as a possible investment for him. It might have been something similar to the Delorean case. Someone brings either drugs or drug money and then gets clean money out of it. That would seem exactly like what Hetrick was doing. People like Hetrick, Michael Tsalickis, Arthur Jones.

I read somewhere about a bdsm dungeon that some teachers at McClasky were running. Can anyone tell me where to get more info about that? I am wondering if the new writing sample is really one of his students and her name and info. What if the guy was a substitute teacher there at mcClasky and the nearby schools?

I havent been able to get on aetv site now since Sat am. I made a map to compare to the sketch but I cant get it uploaded.

 

[Dewclaw]

I was just thinking about this also. Back then there were many male teachers who worked construction in the summer. Sierra Vista Middle School, there in Northwoods, was a brand new school back in 1980. Is it possible that one of the new teachers there was from Sacramento? There first year there was actually held over in Tustin and then transferred over the following year, to where the campus is now. I still have my yearbook.

 

[Dewclaw]

The story behind the decal is that an El Camino was seen on the Levy near the time of an attack nearby with that decal. At another time an El Camino with a nearly identical description on the decal was seen. Although the vehicles were different colors, the second one was seen at North Island, near Coronado by a miltary personnel.

I copied this from one of the posters off of aetv. They know so much about the case but but because of the way the threads are it is so hard to find info like this. This seems so important also. Does anyone know what year of El Camino it was? I think Robin Hood was onto to something with the Milling and CKM connection. I wonder if anybody at that school would recognize the car.

I havent been able to log on to AETV for days.