Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #8

[Lynnieth]

Just marking my spot.

I feel really sad that there are no news about this case.

Where are you Sherri?

 

[Evey]

I just can't reconcile her dropping her phone if she walked away from her life or committed suicide, just leave it at home, because what difference does it make at that point?

It sure looks like LE and the family are working on different sides of the aisle.

It honestly feels like LE thinks it's one thing and the "donor" and CG think it's kidnapping(and now somehow has made her husband think that in a few things I've read) and in most things I've read, her husband says low life's and her family says someone she new took her. I don't know if his family thinks the same as he does or if they have a fifth view that makes it to seem like none of them can agree and none of them think it's the same.

 

[JnRyan]

I was hoping by the end of the first week LE had something more than a phone. Something on someone's home security video. Something at or near the house. Anything. Now I'm thinking they're at a standstill. I'm afraid that by the end of the month the extra resources - FBI, state LE, additional officers from Redding PD - are going to be gone if they aren't already. If there is nothing to work with there is nothing for them to work on. I'm concerned this case is going to end up like Missy Bevers where it goes on for months.

 

[eucalyptuz]

It is hard to reconcile the actions of LE, the mystery donor and the family. The fact that LE have backed off from searches AND not cautioned the public about a dangerous woman-snatching perp suggests to me that they know something, and have not shared that info with the family. I don't know what this info could be but perhaps an electronic trail showing infidelity? Evidence of air tickets purchased? Whatever it is LE seem to be convinced that further searches are a waste of time. This is not usually the case when there is a suggestion of suicide...there is generally a push to retrieve a body. So I am stumped.

The donor may believe there is a paramour and that a financial incentive my break some "let's runaway together" plans. Plus it has certainly put Sherri's face in the public eye, so their options for picking up a new normal life elsewhere are reduced.

The family have maintained the "she's been abducted" narrative without really publicly addressing other alternatives such as 'runaway' or 'suicide' - but their actions such as the balloon release, the lack of organized searches and their statements to the press about her being far away are confusing to me.

 

[soanyway]

Full disclosure....I'm a newbie and have only followed a handful of cases. However, I have noticed that LE's lack of reporting to the public is not necessarily as a sign that they are not pursuing suspects. In the Heather McDonald case, an arrest had been made more than 3 weeks prior to him being named a POI publicly. It wasn't until after her body was found in a wooded area by hunters. He was being held on an unrelated charge, but there are many reasons why LE remained tight-lipped (gathering more evidence, seeking additional arrests, etc.). So, I do wonder if the "lack of urgency" is because there is already an unnamed POI or if they have confirmation that SP was specifically targeted (public not at risk) and is no longer with us. I'm afraid that may be the case, but am hopeful that LE (along with FBI) is still gathering evidence to get justice for SP and her family.

I was hoping by the end of the first week LE had something more than a phone. Something on someone's home security video. Something at or near the house. Anything. Now I'm thinking they're at a standstill. I'm afraid that by the end of the month the extra resources - FBI, state LE, additional officers from Redding PD - are going to be gone if they aren't already. If there is nothing to work with there is nothing for them to work on. I'm concerned this case is going to end up like Missy Bevers where it goes on for months.

 

[cluciano63]

I'm the one who brought up the pinterest comment about god coming before your son. I thought Sherri had written it but I was wrong, she just shared pin along with the comment. A lot of people do that without necessarily agreeing with the comment. So we can't tell much about Sherri from the comment.

I don't know this pin interest thing, but why would someone post something they do not agree with, or "like"?

 

[Evey]

I was hoping by the end of the first week LE had something more than a phone. Something on someone's home security video. Something at or near the house. Anything. Now I'm thinking they're at a standstill. I'm afraid that by the end of the month the extra resources - FBI, state LE, additional officers from Redding PD - are going to be gone if they aren't already. If there is nothing to work with there is nothing for them to work on. I'm concerned this case is going to end up like Missy Bevers where it goes on for months.

is it possible that the person took her from the house(since the dogs didn't find scent where she jogs) and went out a back door and into the woods or whatever it behind their home or into their own home? If they lived near by. Since I'm not sure how the house layout is and how many are close neighbors it makes me wonder if there's a way to have done that hence none of the cameras picking it up. Especially if somehow they pulled their car around back and put her in the trunk to avoid cameras.

 

[Evey]

Full disclosure....I'm a newbie and have only followed a handful of cases. However, I have noticed that LE's lack of reporting to the public is not necessarily as a sign that they are not pursuing suspects. In the Heather McDonald case, an arrest had been made more than 3 weeks prior to him being named a POI publicly. It wasn't until after her body was found in a wooded area by hunters. He was being held on an unrelated charge, but there are many reasons why LE remained tight-lipped (gathering more evidence, seeking additional arrests, etc.). So, I do wonder if the "lack of urgency" is because there is already an unnamed POI or if they have confirmation that SP was specifically targeted (public not at risk) and is no longer with us. I'm afraid that may be the case, but am hopeful that LE (along with FBI) is still gathering evidence to get justice for SP and her family.

That's how I feel and I think it's someone in their inner circle and the cops don't want to risk them finding out by accident because they tell the family anything. Or when mentioned to the family they swore the person could never do that. When I read about 20 search warrants it made me wonder if it's the same person and each is for different things or what the case is. But I think LE is essentially playing dumb so the person lets their guard down and makes a mistake. I think it's not their first time doing this and I would be curious to see if they do find her not alive if they find the other girls body since they could be sisters I could see the same person targeting her.

 

[monster12]

I don't know this pin interest thing, but why would someone post something they do not agree with, or "like"?

Because she could have liked whatever the link was... a picture, recipe, craft, whatever. The comments below are just there and unless someone is commented, I would imagine most don't even look at them. I don't even look at them or click the links half the time. I just pin it and go back to it later. But at first I always thought people were leaving the comments themselves. Just my thought.


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[Evey]

I don't know this pin interest thing, but why would someone post something they do not agree with, or "like"?

I pin a lot of things to show a bestfriend or BF or family or because I like the photo. And I never change my captions so it's safe to say most of the time you can assume it's not their caption. But if it's a photo of a quote and she pins it then she either believes the quote or wants to show it to someone else. Or maybe it's for show. Because I get the feeling they like to seem perfect image wise. I guess she has a yelp also but I didn't want to install the app to find it or spend time googling since I doubt it'll help us. Unless she wrote a very bad review about some creep at some place and the place ends up being the daycare or something that can tell us where she was being stalked from.

 

[soanyway]

IMO, the family's tone has changed. But not because they believe her disappearance was voluntary (they have addressed that she would never leave her family or "drop her phone" if she was running away). CG's tone has also changed in the ransom/reward videos, omitting the word "safely", just wanting someone to "lead" them to SP. They could both still believe she is being held against her will, but sadly IMO, the tone has changed because they believe she is no longer alive. When no one came forward on the initial ransom plea, it may have solidified that belief.

Six Figure CASH Reward for the Person Who Leads Us To Sherri Papini
This letter is for the person who knows what happened to Sherri Papini.
I am willing to confidentially pay you CASH immediately if you lead us to Sherri.

http://sherripapini.com

It is hard to reconcile the actions of LE, the mystery donor and the family. The fact that LE have backed off from searches AND not cautioned the public about a dangerous woman-snatching perp suggests to me that they know something, and have not shared that info with the family. I don't know what this info could be but perhaps an electronic trail showing infidelity? Evidence of air tickets purchased? Whatever it is LE seem to be convinced that further searches are a waste of time. This is not usually the case when there is a suggestion of suicide...there is generally a push to retrieve a body. So I am stumped.

The donor may believe there is a paramour and that a financial incentive my break some "let's runaway together" plans. Plus it has certainly put Sherri's face in the public eye, so their options for picking up a new normal life elsewhere are reduced.

The family have maintained the "she's been abducted" narrative without really publicly addressing other alternatives such as 'runaway' or 'suicide' - but their actions such as the balloon release, the lack of organized searches and their statements to the press about her being far away are confusing to me.

 

[missgulfsouth]

That's how I feel and I think it's someone in their inner circle and the cops don't want to risk them finding out by accident because they tell the family anything. Or when mentioned to the family they swore the person could never do that. When I read about 20 search warrants it made me wonder if it's the same person and each is for different things or what the case is. But I think LE is essentially playing dumb so the person lets their guard down and makes a mistake. I think it's not their first time doing this and I would be curious to see if they do find her not alive if they find the other girls body since they could be sisters I could see the same person targeting her.

Having a POI in their minds and playing dumb is what I've been thinking, too. I have to keep reminding myself that it can take months for cases to break wide open.

 

[soanyway]

Which other girl are you speaking of? Another recent missing person?

That's how I feel and I think it's someone in their inner circle and the cops don't want to risk them finding out by accident because they tell the family anything. Or when mentioned to the family they swore the person could never do that. When I read about 20 search warrants it made me wonder if it's the same person and each is for different things or what the case is. But I think LE is essentially playing dumb so the person lets their guard down and makes a mistake. I think it's not their first time doing this and I would be curious to see if they do find her not alive if they find the other girls body since they could be sisters I could see the same person targeting her.

 

[Evey]

Having a POI in their minds and playing dumb is what I've been thinking, too. I have to keep reminding myself that it can take months for cases to break wide open.

Same here. They found a body of someone on the side of the road according to the recent sheriff log. And it has three other suspicious ones where a girl was followed at the casino and worried she would be attacked and then either the same girl or a different one reported winning a jackpot at the casino and then having a truck follow her home. And then even more creepy is the one where some dude parked in her driveway ans got out of the car and said he was just looking for a house he wants or likes. In general the logs make me glad I don't live there but those entry's made me wonder if those could be the same dude and if the body could sadly end up being hers. I can link today's log but I imagine you(like most of us) probably either have it in another tab already or know exactly how to get there's fast. I literally type in S or sh and both the logs and SP's name(both before and after marriage ones) pop up as the suggested search.

 

[kkdj]

Sadly, I would be surprised if she is with us!

 

[Evey]

Which other girl are you speaking of? Another recent missing person?

The Tara smith girl I believe her name is. The fact that they look so much alike and then some comment on I believe an article or blog post(this was a week or so ago so I forget what site exactly)said she dated a certain person from this case. Now I don't think he did either abduction/murders but I think someone close to him who had access may have and then being around Sherri triggered him. I won't say who I think the person would be since I think it wouldn't be allowed but whoever it is for all we know has a type and that type is blondes who are thin and cute and younger looking and like to jog. Since from what I've read she went missing in jogging clothes also and on old Oregon way I believe it was. And the person they think did it to me seems like an easy target. Also with or without the comment about her dating who it said she dated, I still would be thinking about this scenario. That or someone who saw them both a lot at school or if they both played volleyball(I've read SP did) then maybe a coach. The side by side of the girls is what nafe me start pondering the possibility a bunch because the nose and smile are so alike.

 

[wfgodot]

Happy T-Day all; a song for all those so-inclined.

 

[monkeypants]

This might sound like a pretty silly question, but is there any reference at all to Sherri on the Shasta county sherrif website? I was just looking at it and couldn't see anything about her....No press releases nothing...Which seems a little odd.

I am starting to draw the conclusion that Sherri has left voluntarily. LE has an idea of where she is, but because she is an adult they can't force her to come back. I would suggest they haven't been able to complete a welfare check on her or speak to her in person so the status remains as missing. On the flip side, I don't think the family is willing or wanting to believe that she has left of her own accord hence the "ransom" or "reward"

There seems to be no urgency from LE (which is no disrespect to LE, I mean in comparison to other MP cases where it is clear something nefarious has happened or there are witnesses to a kidnapping) It is a very big judgement call for the sherrif to call off searches if he didn't have enough information to confirm that that would be the right decision. I personally feel that the family is so desperate to have her home that they are clinging to the ransom and negotiator as their only hope, especially if they feel that LE has "given up"

I find it a little concerning that the negotiator increased the ransom by combining it with the reward....Doesn't that say to someone if they are holding Sherri..."Hang on a little longer, the money will go up again"

100% agree with you. I've always believed that.

 

[Evey]

Today I had a tweaker watch me, and follow me into a mini mart. And then follow me as I was leaving, and run up on me and then slid on the cement and stopped right next to me. This creepy incident in a mostly safe smaller town, makes me think with how bad of a crime and drug problem they have, she could have come across some creepy druggie who was also a rso who had been watching her jog and attacked her. Not my first choice theory wise but that's where my mind went. Happy thanksgiving everyone! If my phone would let me make paragraphs on this forum I would make this not a wall of text, but for some reason every social media app and even my texts allow me to but when I try writing a reply out in one and then pasting it as my reply here, the paragraphs vanish😡 Maybe I'm missing something or it's the mobile version causing it or it being the quick reply option...

 

[Evey]

As much as I want to see Sherri returned alive I think this whole ransom thing will cause bad things for the future. Because since it happened one death after a kidnapping and ransom has already occurred so what's next? And like people have said, it just makes these people think the money will keep going up. Plus if she's gone on her own with some dude and he gets the reward, wouldn't Sherri just have to leave again and then they'd have the money to run away? It's not like they can keep her somewhere against her will and there's no part about having to agree to not take her back after you have the money. I wish I could believe it's a real offer but there are too many things off about it. Plus most people would be insulted by his trying to act like he's in control and can call the shots when they're the ones with the power and all he has is the promise of money nobody has seen. I mean he should be arrested for tampering with an investigation and because he's promising some criminal something that the cops and Sherri never signed up for. Not to mention the person they could hurt because they went free. Everyone I've asked said it is illegal. And where will this donor be when this person or a copycat kidnaps the next girl, because they saw that this one got them whatever amount they end up paying them.