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That is to say it may be a small measure of comfort or relief to those who knew her. I don't know that it is.
Identified! Canada- WINNIPEG Landfill, Manitoba, (Possible victim of Jeremy Anthony Michael Skibicki) 14 June 2022 - Rebecca Contois
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In Canada there's been quite a few individuals who have died in charity clothing bins. I believe they initially enter voluntarily to use the clothing for warmth or to root through them for better clothing. The problem is that they get stuck inside and they die of exposure or asphyxiation. Vancouver, because of the temperate climate, have a lot more homeless than other large cities and have asked that charity bins be removed to avoid needless deaths.
If protesters have a team ready to go, I think they would be allowed to search. Is there evidence that bodies are at the location?
How long do they need the dump shut down for their search? A few days doesn't sound unreasonable, a week, month, until they find something ... that's impossible.
How long do they need the dump shut down for their search? A few days doesn't sound unreasonable, a week, month, until they find something ... that's impossible.
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Am I understanding this correctly? There is speculation, but no evidence, that there are any bodies at the dump. However, two Indigenous families would suffer less distress if paid employees would risk health and exposure to toxic chemicals to search the dump for the next three years?
winnipeg.ctvnews.ca
"Last week, the province responded to a feasibility study on a search of Prairie Green, which determined a search of the landfill would cost up to $184 million, could take up to three years, is not guaranteed to be successful and could pose health risks to searchers due to toxic chemicals.
However, the feasibility study says not searching the landfill could cause significant distress to the families of Harris and Myran."
However, the feasibility study says not searching the landfill could cause significant distress to the families of Harris and Myran."
'Heartless': Federal Crown-Indigenous relations minister criticizes Manitoba’s landfill search decision
Canada’s Crown-Indigenous relations minister has criticized the Manitoba government for its decision to not search a landfill for the bodies of two murdered Indigenous women.
Just a thought, create a new landfill and make the old one beautiful and dignified.
2020
''Today, the tall-grass prairie that she and members of Lambton Wildlife Inc. planted on the dump’s cap in 2017 provides a resting spot for birds migrating through the Huron shore flyway, and habitat for the endangered Butler’s garter snake. There are also mowed pathways and a Frisbee-golf course in that portion of the park.
Experts say that the Coves is home to more than 70 different species of birds and more than 100 species of animal. With concerns about climate change mounting, it’s critical to maintain areas that have the biodiversity to support wildlife and native flora and fauna, McClenaghan says. In the case of the Coves, the old dumps presented an opportunity, somewhat by default: "These sites,” he notes, “were unusable for any other purpose.”
2020
''Today, the tall-grass prairie that she and members of Lambton Wildlife Inc. planted on the dump’s cap in 2017 provides a resting spot for birds migrating through the Huron shore flyway, and habitat for the endangered Butler’s garter snake. There are also mowed pathways and a Frisbee-golf course in that portion of the park.
Experts say that the Coves is home to more than 70 different species of birds and more than 100 species of animal. With concerns about climate change mounting, it’s critical to maintain areas that have the biodiversity to support wildlife and native flora and fauna, McClenaghan says. In the case of the Coves, the old dumps presented an opportunity, somewhat by default: "These sites,” he notes, “were unusable for any other purpose.”
I like that idea. Rather than spend $184 million dollars and put people's health at risk to dig in garbage for 3 years, use the money to purchase new land for a dump, and to cap and vent the existing dump as a natural area.Just a thought, create a new landfill and make the old one beautiful and dignified.
2020
''Today, the tall-grass prairie that she and members of Lambton Wildlife Inc. planted on the dump’s cap in 2017 provides a resting spot for birds migrating through the Huron shore flyway, and habitat for the endangered Butler’s garter snake. There are also mowed pathways and a Frisbee-golf course in that portion of the park.
Experts say that the Coves is home to more than 70 different species of birds and more than 100 species of animal. With concerns about climate change mounting, it’s critical to maintain areas that have the biodiversity to support wildlife and native flora and fauna, McClenaghan says. In the case of the Coves, the old dumps presented an opportunity, somewhat by default: "These sites,” he notes, “were unusable for any other purpose.”
The 2 missing women's families have expressed upset about visiting their relatives remains at the dump for all eternity - although there is no evidence they are at the dump. Repairing and reviving the land sounds like a solution that addresses everyone's needs - including those who are expected to compromise their health to search for remains. The families can visit a nature reserve instead.
Legal reason, in addition to health risks, to not search the landfill ... the prosecution has 30 months from laying charges to presenting the case in court. Charges were laid in December 2022, trial is scheduled for April 2024. A 3 year search of the dump moves the trial to 2026, meaning charges will be dropped due to delay in process and 'speedy trial'.
Prosecutors have said that they have enough evidence to prosecute without bodies.
Prosecutors have said that they have enough evidence to prosecute without bodies.
Winnipeg mayor is supportive of landfill search for remains, Indigenous leaders say
WINNIPEG - Mayor Scott Gillingham offered support for a landfill search for human remains, some Indigenous leaders said after a one-hour meeting with him Thursday, adding the Manitoba government remains an obstacle.
“I’m really happy that the mayor’s office is trying to figure out ways that they can support the search,” Chief Kyra Wilson, of Long Plain First Nation, said.
“And we don’t know what that is yet, but we do know that they are coming to some sort of options, ideas, suggestions.”
''Cambria Harris, daughter of Morgan Harris, said the three levels of government have to work out a solution.
“In my culture, we believe that if you don’t get that proper burial with ceremony, then you are stuck between this world and the spirit world,” Harris said.
“I would hate to be looking down at my body in a landfill, knowing that all levels of government wouldn’t step in to search for me.”
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Is it not possible to do both? To prosecute the guilty party, hold them responsible for these deaths regardless of whether or not they have the bodies themselves and also to search for remains separate from these court cases?
It's grief. Imagine for the families it's the not knowing that is so difficult. They don't know with certainty that their loved ones remains are there. It is quite unfair to expect these families to be content with having to visit the "old town dump" anytime they want to pay their respects or visit their loved ones.
At the very least, they should close the landfill. Maybe create a garden or a park in honor of the women? If they never find their remains, the families might still want somewhere to go to express their grief. Since more than one family has been affected it might be good to have a place that honors the community. IMO it sounds like this community is in need of something like that. MOO.
"Brittany Hobson is a reporter who’s been covering the debate surrounding the landfill for The Canadian Press. She says the controversy has worsened an already fraught relationship between the local authorities and Indigenous communities."
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It's grief. Imagine for the families it's the not knowing that is so difficult. They don't know with certainty that their loved ones remains are there. It is quite unfair to expect these families to be content with having to visit the "old town dump" anytime they want to pay their respects or visit their loved ones.
At the very least, they should close the landfill. Maybe create a garden or a park in honor of the women? If they never find their remains, the families might still want somewhere to go to express their grief. Since more than one family has been affected it might be good to have a place that honors the community. IMO it sounds like this community is in need of something like that. MOO.
"Brittany Hobson is a reporter who’s been covering the debate surrounding the landfill for The Canadian Press. She says the controversy has worsened an already fraught relationship between the local authorities and Indigenous communities."
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July 28 2023 lengthy article, rbbm.
''Police believe the remains of four indigenous women murdered by a serial killer were dumped in a landfill. But officials have yet to recover their bodies, leaving it up to the victims' family members to keep the search alive, reports Brandi Morin.
A makeshift barricade of tyres and scraps of white-painted fence lays across a paved road leading to the Brady Landfill on the outskirts of the Canadian city of Winnipeg.
Mohawk warrior flags, which feature the face of an indigenous man superimposed on a yellow sunburst on a red background, wave in the wind. Indigenous blockaders dressed in camouflage gear stand guard nearby, keeping people from entering.
They have been standing sentry for weeks, in protest, after police announced they believe the bodies of indigenous women murdered by a serial killer may be buried there.
Behind their barrier is 22-year-old Cambria Harris. And she will stop at nothing to find her mother's body.
Last December, Winnipeg police told Cambria and other family members that her mother Morgan Harris, 39, of Long Plain First Nation had allegedly been murdered by a man they accuse of being a serial killer.
Police claim Jeremy Skibicki killed four women, including Harris, and dumped their bodies in two different landfills over a three-month span in the spring of 2022.
All the women were indigenous. None of their bodies have been recovered.''
''For Cambria, there is no question about keeping pressure on authorities to search for her mother's and the other victims' remains.
"They're telling me that my mother's dead, but where? Well, if she has been murdered, she needs to be retrieved," she said.
"And so does Marcedes Myran because this landfill is essentially a giant burial site, an unmarked grave at that."
Winnipeg: A daughter's quest to find her mother's remains
Police believe the remains of four indigenous women murdered by a serial killer were dumped in a landfill.
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''Police believe the remains of four indigenous women murdered by a serial killer were dumped in a landfill. But officials have yet to recover their bodies, leaving it up to the victims' family members to keep the search alive, reports Brandi Morin.
A makeshift barricade of tyres and scraps of white-painted fence lays across a paved road leading to the Brady Landfill on the outskirts of the Canadian city of Winnipeg.
Mohawk warrior flags, which feature the face of an indigenous man superimposed on a yellow sunburst on a red background, wave in the wind. Indigenous blockaders dressed in camouflage gear stand guard nearby, keeping people from entering.
They have been standing sentry for weeks, in protest, after police announced they believe the bodies of indigenous women murdered by a serial killer may be buried there.
Behind their barrier is 22-year-old Cambria Harris. And she will stop at nothing to find her mother's body.
Last December, Winnipeg police told Cambria and other family members that her mother Morgan Harris, 39, of Long Plain First Nation had allegedly been murdered by a man they accuse of being a serial killer.
Police claim Jeremy Skibicki killed four women, including Harris, and dumped their bodies in two different landfills over a three-month span in the spring of 2022.
All the women were indigenous. None of their bodies have been recovered.''
''For Cambria, there is no question about keeping pressure on authorities to search for her mother's and the other victims' remains.
"They're telling me that my mother's dead, but where? Well, if she has been murdered, she needs to be retrieved," she said.
"And so does Marcedes Myran because this landfill is essentially a giant burial site, an unmarked grave at that."
Sept 1 2023 rbbm
winnipegsun.com
''The leader of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs (AMC) says she is thankful for a new coalition of churches and church leaders that have joined together in demanding a landfill search for human remains in Manitoba and thankful for recent support she said is proving it is far more than just First Nations people who want to see a search of the Prairie Green Landfill.''
“We strongly hold the belief that the collective unity of these groups in supporting the families will demonstrate to the world that this issue is not exclusive to First Nations in Manitoba,” AMC Grand Chief Cathy Merrick said in a media release.''
''Merrick’s comments come after four national churches — the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada, the United Church of Canada, the Presbyterian Church in Canada, and the Anglican Church of Canada — announced they are calling on all levels of government in Canada to begin work on a search of the Prairie Green Landfill for the remains of Morgan Harris and Marcedes Myran, two Indigenous women believed to have been murdered and dumped at the landfill north of Winnipeg by an alleged serial killer.''
Groundswell of support shows governments need to work on landfill search, says AMC grand chief
Leader of Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs is thankful for a new coalition of churches and church leaders demanding a landfill search. Read more.
“We strongly hold the belief that the collective unity of these groups in supporting the families will demonstrate to the world that this issue is not exclusive to First Nations in Manitoba,” AMC Grand Chief Cathy Merrick said in a media release.''
''Merrick’s comments come after four national churches — the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada, the United Church of Canada, the Presbyterian Church in Canada, and the Anglican Church of Canada — announced they are calling on all levels of government in Canada to begin work on a search of the Prairie Green Landfill for the remains of Morgan Harris and Marcedes Myran, two Indigenous women believed to have been murdered and dumped at the landfill north of Winnipeg by an alleged serial killer.''
Sept 18 2023 rbbm
globalnews.ca
''Calls to search a Manitoba landfill for the remains of slain Indigenous women will be heard across the country Monday.
From Victoria to Halifax protesters will march to the steps of their local government buildings to protest and demand the Manitoba government pay to sift through over 61,000 tonnes of trash to bring home the bodies of four women, alleged to have been killed by one man.
Tara Martinez organized the Indigenous Day of Action which will happen with the provincial legislature as the backdrop.
“Our silence is compliance of the violence,” said Martinez, who oversees public education at the Children First Society of Canada.
The lawn at the government building will be covered in red on Monday. Protesters plan to fill the space with red dresses to compel the provincial government to search the Prairie Green landfill for the remains of Morgan Harris and Marcedes Myran.''
‘Search the landfill’ protests planned across Canada for Monday | Globalnews.ca
"People are speaking of reconciliation, and they think it's moving along just fine. But a genuine step would be to bring these women home to their families."
globalnews.ca
''Calls to search a Manitoba landfill for the remains of slain Indigenous women will be heard across the country Monday.
From Victoria to Halifax protesters will march to the steps of their local government buildings to protest and demand the Manitoba government pay to sift through over 61,000 tonnes of trash to bring home the bodies of four women, alleged to have been killed by one man.
Tara Martinez organized the Indigenous Day of Action which will happen with the provincial legislature as the backdrop.
“Our silence is compliance of the violence,” said Martinez, who oversees public education at the Children First Society of Canada.
The lawn at the government building will be covered in red on Monday. Protesters plan to fill the space with red dresses to compel the provincial government to search the Prairie Green landfill for the remains of Morgan Harris and Marcedes Myran.''
Ottawa puts more money toward studying possible Winnipeg landfill search
Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Gary Anandasangaree says the federal government will put $740,000 toward further assessing the feasibility of searching a Winnipeg-area landfill for the remains of two First Nations women.
Anandasangaree says the money will help governments get all the information they need before sitting at the table together to make a decision about the search itself, but he wouldn't commit to putting up the estimated $184 million the search would cost.
He says the work is expected to be completed within the next 90 days, adding that Ottawa is "in it for the long haul."
The remains of Morgan Harris and Marcedes Myran are suspected to be in the Prairie Green Landfill, a private facility north of Winnipeg.''
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Another man killing Native women hoping nobody will look for them or care... this world is too harsh a place...
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Could not agree more. I do not understand how people can say such unempathetic things. Maybe they're simply ignorant to the level of struggle the entire community has faced for generations.
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Donna Bartlett's granddaughter, Marcedes Myran, is believed to be one of the four women allegedly killed by Jeremy Skibicki.
Donna Bartlett has been trying to put it out of her mind, but the thought of hearing details in a courtroom next week about her granddaughter's death has been hard to shake.
"The closer it gets, the more anxious I get, the more easy to set off," she said.
"Sometimes I just want to break down and cry, and I can't do that. I got my kids and everybody else — so I try and stay strong."
Donna Bartlett has been trying to put it out of her mind, but the thought of hearing details in a courtroom next week about her granddaughter's death has been hard to shake.
"The closer it gets, the more anxious I get, the more easy to set off," she said.
"Sometimes I just want to break down and cry, and I can't do that. I got my kids and everybody else — so I try and stay strong."
Ozten Shebahkeget · CBC News · Posted: Dec 22, 2023
''A search of a Winnipeg-area landfill for the remains of two First Nations women believed to be the victims of an alleged serial killer could happen next year, Manitoba Premier Wab Kinew says.
Police said a year ago that they believe the remains of Morgan Harris, 39, and Marcedes Myran, 26, were taken to the Prairie Green landfill, just north of Winnipeg, in May 2022.
Since then, the families of the women have been fighting to have the landfill searched.
The former Progressive Conservative government refused to support such a search, citing hazards to workers and concerns about its feasibility.
But on Friday, Kinew — whose NDP defeated the Tories in the October provincial election — said he "would like a search to begin in 2024."
The province has "identified the resources internally and we are now assessing the best logistical path to deliver the search compassionately and safely," Kinew said in a statement emailed to CBC News.''
''A search of a Winnipeg-area landfill for the remains of two First Nations women believed to be the victims of an alleged serial killer could happen next year, Manitoba Premier Wab Kinew says.
Police said a year ago that they believe the remains of Morgan Harris, 39, and Marcedes Myran, 26, were taken to the Prairie Green landfill, just north of Winnipeg, in May 2022.
Since then, the families of the women have been fighting to have the landfill searched.
The former Progressive Conservative government refused to support such a search, citing hazards to workers and concerns about its feasibility.
But on Friday, Kinew — whose NDP defeated the Tories in the October provincial election — said he "would like a search to begin in 2024."
The province has "identified the resources internally and we are now assessing the best logistical path to deliver the search compassionately and safely," Kinew said in a statement emailed to CBC News.''
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Identified the resources internally = they had the money all along but the other guy didn't want to spend it.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/amc-long-plain-prairie-green-report-1.7096438
The proposed search of a Winnipeg-area landfill for the remains of two slain First Nations women could cost $90 million — about half the projected maximum in an earlier estimate — although searchers could face a "very high risk" from asbestos, a new report says.
The operational planning report is a detailed followup to a feasibility study last year into a possible search of the Prairie Green landfill. The privately run facility north of Winnipeg is where the remains of Morgan Harris and Marcedes Myran are believed to have been taken after they were killed in the spring of 2022.
[...]
"The initiation of a thorough and complete search … demands intervention from both the Manitoba premier's office and the federal government to close gaps in bureaucratic systems and to ensure immediate funding," the report says.
"If this is not done, the search will be held off indefinitely."
The proposed search of a Winnipeg-area landfill for the remains of two slain First Nations women could cost $90 million — about half the projected maximum in an earlier estimate — although searchers could face a "very high risk" from asbestos, a new report says.
The operational planning report is a detailed followup to a feasibility study last year into a possible search of the Prairie Green landfill. The privately run facility north of Winnipeg is where the remains of Morgan Harris and Marcedes Myran are believed to have been taken after they were killed in the spring of 2022.
[...]
"The initiation of a thorough and complete search … demands intervention from both the Manitoba premier's office and the federal government to close gaps in bureaucratic systems and to ensure immediate funding," the report says.
"If this is not done, the search will be held off indefinitely."