Kimster
Former Member
Remember, no names of minors here or suggesting any minors are involved in Hailey going missing. :tyou:
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I'm still intrigued with the idea that SA locked DD OUT.
My kids all had keys when they were at home and actually they all still have one.
We know from the earlier 911 calls that BJ doesn't lock her doors or windows.
I think its important to note that BJ confirmed the "deer in the headlights" look reported in the affidavit, not CD. This means that DD told her this, and she confirmed with LE that he did.
So her press conference bs about "Hi, how you doing?" is just that, total bs.
The whole door thing makes me suspicious.
The motive language used makes me think that the incident has been elaborated subsequent to the event, and might not accurately reflect what happened.
Then there is this thing about the locked door. Even if it was not usually locked, who leaves a house empty without locking it? Even in a small town (especially in a small town, where kids have a lot of time on their hands). So why wouldn't DD have had a key, or known where to find one?
And if he didn't have a key, and the door was locked, surely he would have noticed his mother's vehicle parked outside? And if that was the case, why break in (or gained entry, depending on how you want the view the broken window thing). What about trying the back door, or where all the doors locked? He only mentions pounding on "the" door, there has to be more than one door to the house. In HDs story DD reached in through a window that was broken (by HD with a basketball some time earlier) and opened the door.
Also, who exactly was with him? BD says it was it was a friend, but in other posts (IIRC burried deep in the thousands of posts in the never ending thread) it was suggested that CD was consulted before he entered. So what exactly happened?
I don't believe that SA was interupted doing a "clean up" either. He couldn't have been there all that long when DD showed up, plus, he would have left anything behind alone in the house with DD and friend when he went to pick up HD. If there was a clean up going on, there would have been unexplained "stuff" lying around both when DD was there and when BD got back home. If that were the case he would have been freaking out and someone surely would have noticed something was up. But apparently they didn't. So I'm think no cleanup whatever else might have happened.
The whole door thing makes me suspicious.
The motive language used makes me think that the incident has been elaborated subsequent to the event, and might not accurately reflect what happened.
Then there is this thing about the locked door. Even if it was not usually locked, who leaves a house empty without locking it? Even in a small town (especially in a small town, where kids have a lot of time on their hands). So why wouldn't DD have had a key, or known where to find one?
And if he didn't have a key, and the door was locked, surely he would have noticed his mother's vehicle parked outside? And if that was the case, why break in (or gained entry, depending on how you want the view the broken window thing). What about trying the back door, or where all the doors locked? He only mentions pounding on "the" door, there has to be more than one door to the house. In HDs story DD reached in through a window that was broken (by HD with a basketball some time earlier) and opened the door.
Also, who exactly was with him? BD says it was it was a friend, but in other posts (IIRC burried deep in the thousands of posts in the never ending thread) it was suggested that CD was consulted before he entered. So what exactly happened?
I don't believe that SA was interupted doing a "clean up" either. He couldn't have been there all that long when DD showed up, plus, he would have left anything behind alone in the house with DD and friend when he went to pick up HD. If there was a clean up going on, there would have been unexplained "stuff" lying around both when DD was there and when BD got back home. If that were the case he would have been freaking out and someone surely would have noticed something was up. But apparently they didn't. So I'm think no cleanup whatever else might have happened.
We know from the earlier 911 calls that BJ doesn't lock her doors or windows.
I think its important to note that BJ confirmed the "deer in the headlights" look reported in the affidavit, not CD. This means that DD told her this, and she confirmed with LE that he did.
So her press conference bs about "Hi, how you doing?" is just that, total bs.
Lots of people leave their doors unlocked, especially if there is a broken window right next to the door knob. And I would imagine he tried both doors
even though he said 'pounding on the door.' If he said pounding on the 'doors' it would sound strange because he only pounded on one at a time. kwim?
And some have wondered if seeing the car there made DD even more anxious to break in after his knocks went unanswered. Perhaps he knew about his sisters fear of SA, and was concerned that she was inside with him.
So when nobody answered he reached through the broken glass to enter.
I think he could very well been doing a 'clean up' when DD arrived. He may have had up to an hour to an hour and a half, that's plenty of time imo. Especially if there was no bloody crime scene. She may have just been carried out alive and drugged, no muss/no fuss.
And he didnt have to leave anything behind when he left to pick up Billie. He could have taken it all and dumped it before he picked her up.
I think he was actually working on putting together Haileys sleepover bag when DD arrived. I think SA was trying to gather her hoodie and money and other stuff so it would appear she left for the sleepover. Then he could dump it somewhere to make it seem like an abduction.
I was reading the affidavit again tonight, and it doesn't actually say that DD made the "deer in the headlights" comment, but that BD said it. The only part about what DD said that was "confirmed" by BD was the pounding on the door and making entry. The rest was attributed to BD only and presumably was her commentary, not DDs. We don't know what, if anything, DD told LE about seeing SA there.
I think the "pounding on the door" is just a figure of speech and what they really mean is that he knocked on the door. Can't read too much into that because people use words differently.
And SA wouldn't have been there for an hour and a half since he was apparently still at his mother's house at 2:40. There was no cleanup because if there was, they would have found evidence for it in the search. Also, if he was gathering stuff to make it look like she overnighted, it presumably wouldn't be much and could be done in a few minutes. In any case, what would be the point of doing that since it would have soon been obvious that she hadn't made arrangements?
I think what more likely happened is that DD came home around the back and didn't see the car because it was parked up front, found the door locked, knocked on it a couple of times and then opened it through the broken window because he thought no one was there. Looking back he might have thought it was five minutes but actually was much less that. SA was watching TV up front in the living room, heard something going on at the back, and was in the process of going to investigate when he encountered DD in the corridor.
I think the "pounding on the door" is just a figure of speech and what they really mean is that he knocked on the door. Can't read too much into that because people use words differently.
And SA wouldn't have been there for an hour and a half since he was apparently still at his mother's house at 2:40. There was no cleanup because if there was, they would have found evidence for it in the search. Also, if he was gathering stuff to make it look like she overnighted, it presumably wouldn't be much and could be done in a few minutes. In any case, what would be the point of doing that since it would have soon been obvious that she hadn't made arrangements?
I think what more likely happened is that DD came home around the back and didn't see the car because it was parked up front, found the door locked, knocked on it a couple of times and then opened it through the broken window because he thought no one was there. Looking back he might have thought it was five minutes but actually was much less that. SA was watching TV up front in the living room, heard something going on at the back, and was in the process of going to investigate when he encountered DD in the corridor.
Someone posted recently about the window. Said that if the window had already been broken by Hailey while playing ball (as BD says in the PC), then DD would not have needed to knock on the door for several minutes. He could have simply reached through the glass and let himself in.
So I believe that DD had to break the window to get in. JMO