GUILTY DE - Evan Dudley, 21 mos, beaten to death, Dover, 3 Nov 2012

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Cherry said:
I think retinal detachment could occur from shaking. Something about his eyes don't look right in the "picture to his mamma"....like he already had been suffering at that point. JMO
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If there were older injuries, that would have been apparent when the medical examiner looked at the body. They would also have been mentioned in the search warrant if there were any. We don't have the warrant, just this news report (who presumably had seen the warrant), and they don't appear to mention any pre-existing injuries there.
 
The case is still being investigated as a homicide.
If they thought it could be an accident I think they would have determined that and closed it by now.
They have made it clear that they are building a case and just need time. Which is fine. :twocents:
 
Re: his eyes

I'd wondered from a couple of the pics of this sweet little guy wasn't just a touch Down's
 
The thought occurred to me as well, he's got gorgeous eyes.
But I think he just looks like his Mom. They aren't quite that almond shaped.
I think his smile and the lighting make them look a bit more almond than they are.

Mosaic DS is not very common. Only 2-4% of cases of DS are Mosaic.

This baby picture is a bit more clear on the eyes because he's not smiling. :seeya:
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http://www.armytimes.com/article/20130918/NEWS/309180014/Staff-sgt-seeks-answers-after-death-toddler

Prosecutors investigating Evan’s death told The News Journal of Wilmington, Del., that such cases are complex and can take months to complete.
“It was classified as a homicide, and we’re pursuing it as such,” Deputy Attorney General Josette Manning, head of the Child Victims Unit, told the paper.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/articl...4/Staff-sgt-seeks-answers-after-death-toddler

To me this says that they have eliminated the possibility of an accident causing Evan's death.
Falling down 8 carpeted stairs can only do so much damage after 10 months they know that.

That's why they came and checked the carpet on the stairs. Some of them are more padded then others.
They wanted to PROVE that he could not have been fatally injured falling down 8 carpeted stairs. :twocents:
 
Oh no :(
I'm not very well versed in military things but I think we all know they are a somewhat secret society of sorts , at least in the way they investigate themselves and what is public info and what is not. I 'm a huge supporter of the military so I hope this statement doesn't come across wrong...... but isn't it possible that the ' perp' (whomever it may be ) is connected via his sarge/captain/higher up ? and is being protected ? Wouldn't they all close in and protect their fellow soldier in most instances? Especially if it was a case where it might look accidental ? I hate to think that , especially in the death of a precious baby, but stranger things have happened. It could be LE can get nowhere with the investigation because no one is willing to talk to them or throw this ' perp ' under the bus.

Rest in peace darling boy .
 
SCHMAE said:
Oh no :(
I'm not very well versed in military things but I think we all know they are a somewhat secret society of sorts , at least in the way they investigate themselves and what is public info and what is not. I 'm a huge supporter of the military so I hope this statement doesn't come across wrong...... but isn't it possible that the ' perp' (whomever it may be ) is connected via his sarge/captain/higher up ? and is being protected ? Wouldn't they all close in and protect their fellow soldier in most instances? Especially if it was a case where it might look accidental ? I hate to think that , especially in the death of a precious baby, but stranger things have happened. It could be LE can get nowhere with the investigation because no one is willing to talk to them or throw this ' perp ' under the bus.

Rest in peace darling boy .
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the military is not a secret society. it is subject to military code.

like I said earlier, each base is different in how it is managed. the commander sets the tone which can be great and sometimes bad (always a bad apple in the bunch). OSI does work with civilian LE (local PDs, federal agencies, etc). in this case we know that civilian LE is deeply involved. I am positive OSI would be too as this is an active duty member being investigated along with an active duty member being a victim.

are things covered up? things can be covered up in EVERY sector of society including but not limited to education to religious to politics and sure military. so the military is not some secret society that tends to cover up the wrong doings of its members. does it ever happen? id be stupid to say 100% never.

with that said, I could sit here and tell you a dozen or more stories of very very very bad members of the military (enlisted and officers) who were held accountable for their actions and sent to federal prison. my husband was involved in the investigation of and charge of an air force major who was sexually abusing his own daughter. it was not covered up. my husband escorted him to Miramar Prison in Cali. just one of many stories where the military holds the members accountable for their behavior.

like I said, the base im at does not take sh.t from any military member. they are HARD on them. if you get a DUI just ONCE. you lose rank and pay for usually a couple of months....in the least. do it again, you will probably be dishonorably discharged. they don't mess around.

in regards to this case...im curious how he is being handled while under investigation. is he working his usual job? is he on "desk duty" "window washing" (yes they literally punish this way). im also curious about OSIs stance on it all...but we will probably never know.

I just hope and pray justice is served and hope that Nikki is getting the help she is entitled to.
 
prima.facie said:
the military is not a secret society. it is subject to military code.

like I said earlier, each base is different in how it is managed. the commander sets the tone which can be great and sometimes bad (always a bad apple in the bunch). OSI does work with civilian LE (local PDs, federal agencies, etc). in this case we know that civilian LE is deeply involved. I am positive OSI would be too as this is an active duty member being investigated along with an active duty member being a victim.

are things covered up? things can be covered up in EVERY sector of society including but not limited to education to religious to politics and sure military. so the military is not some secret society that tends to cover up the wrong doings of its members. does it ever happen? id be stupid to say 100% never.

with that said, I could sit here and tell you a dozen or more stories of very very very bad members of the military (enlisted and officers) who were held accountable for their actions and sent to federal prison. my husband was involved in the investigation of and charge of an air force major who was sexually abusing his own daughter. it was not covered up. my husband escorted him to Miramar Prison in Cali. just one of many stories where the military holds the members accountable for their behavior.

like I said, the base im at does not take sh.t from any military member. they are HARD on them. if you get a DUI just ONCE. you lose rank and pay for usually a couple of months....in the least. do it again, you will probably be dishonorably discharged. they don't mess around.

in regards to this case...im curious how he is being handled while under investigation. is he working his usual job? is he on "desk duty" "window washing" (yes they literally punish this way). im also curious about OSIs stance on it all...but we will probably never know.

I just hope and pray justice is served and hope that Nikki is getting the help she is entitled to.
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Sorry Prima ! I didn't mean a secret society and I said ' somewhat' as in they run things outside of public view and often the public cannot really tell what's going on. It's just curious to me how this is playing out. So I wondered this and maybe you're in a better position to answer, given your experiences : If the POI ( which i realize is not named, so its' john doe at this point) were related to or buddies with someone higher up the command chain or himself is up the command chain a bit, is it feasible that there might be a cover up ? And yes it can happen in any segment of society. Let's use the catholic church and their priests in sexual abuse scandal as an example. Many priests were reported and the higher ups turned a blind eye, did not offer them up for prosecution and instead just moved them around from church to church to keep the public unaware. So that is the type of thing I wonder if could be happening here.
 
SCHMAE said:
Sorry Prima ! I didn't mean a secret society and I said ' somewhat' as in they run things outside of public view and often the public cannot really tell what's going on. It's just curious to me how this is playing out. So I wondered this and maybe you're in a better position to answer, given your experiences : If the POI ( which i realize is not named, so its' john doe at this point) were related to or buddies with someone higher up the command chain or himself is up the command chain a bit, is it feasible that there might be a cover up ? And yes it can happen in any segment of society. Let's use the catholic church and their priests in sexual abuse scandal as an example. Many priests were reported and the higher ups turned a blind eye, did not offer them up for prosecution and instead just moved them around from church to church to keep the public unaware. So that is the type of thing I wonder if could be happening here.
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anything is possible! but its not that common IMO. I say that because I know of so many enlisted and officers who did bad things and were held accountable for it. again, depends on the base and who the commander is and how he is running that base. it can change every few years too.

in this particular case im curious as to what the POI (which there seems to be one) is doing...his regular job or a modified job while under investigation. also, has his clearance, if he has one, been removed.
 
I can't even read the rest of the thread through the tears...

Unbelievable!


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SCHMAE said:
Sorry Prima ! I didn't mean a secret society and I said ' somewhat' as in they run things outside of public view and often the public cannot really tell what's going on. It's just curious to me how this is playing out. So I wondered this and maybe you're in a better position to answer, given your experiences : If the POI ( which i realize is not named, so its' john doe at this point) were related to or buddies with someone higher up the command chain or himself is up the command chain a bit, is it feasible that there might be a cover up ? And yes it can happen in any segment of society. Let's use the catholic church and their priests in sexual abuse scandal as an example. Many priests were reported and the higher ups turned a blind eye, did not offer them up for prosecution and instead just moved them around from church to church to keep the public unaware. So that is the type of thing I wonder if could be happening here.
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I get what you were trying to say and Prima has answered it pretty darn good! I am not only an AF wife but and OSI wife. If the POI was "in" with his Commander for instance then yes I suppose they could help TRY and cover things. However, as Prima has mentioned that doesn't really happen. However, if it did, OSI would fish it out and no one is "in" with OSI lol. People don't like them. Yes, my husband has friends but mostly from before he was an agent. Once he became an agent he hasn't really made new friends besides our neighbors and even they watch what they say around him. The reactions are pretty funny actually. I guess what I am trying to say is OSI is the FBI of the Air Force, they don't mess around. Even if the POI was to find the right Commander who then found the right OSI agent to help cover this all up, it would be found out by other (non corrupt) OSI agents. No matter, it would be found out. That is all OSI does is investigate the hell out of things, and more than one person handles/sees the cases. Just some background.

Prayers for this angel and his mamma!
 
Lunar1121 said:
I get what you were trying to say and Prima has answered it pretty darn good! I am not only an AF wife but and OSI wife. If the POI was "in" with his Commander for instance then yes I suppose they could help TRY and cover things. However, as Prima has mentioned that doesn't really happen. However, if it did, OSI would fish it out and no one is "in" with OSI lol. People don't like them. Yes, my husband has friends but mostly from before he was an agent. Once he became an agent he hasn't really made new friends besides our neighbors and even they watch what they say around him. The reactions are pretty funny actually. I guess what I am trying to say is OSI is the FBI of the Air Force, they don't mess around. Even if the POI was to find the right Commander who then found the right OSI agent to help cover this all up, it would be found out by other (non corrupt) OSI agents. No matter, it would be found out. That is all OSI does is investigate the hell out of things, and more than one person handles/sees the cases. Just some background.

Prayers for this angel and his mamma!
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Husband is not OSI, but I agree with this.

ETA: My husband is not OSI, just realized it may have sounded like I was trying to say yours wasn't...
 
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“This is an extremely active homicide investigation,” Child Victims Unit head criminal prosecutor Josette Manning said. “We have doctors and experts reviewing all the records.

“Any case that includes head injuries is complex. While unfortunately cases of this nature take a long time, it is a necessity due to the complexity of the case.”

As a mother, Ms. Manning said, she understands a parent’s wish to solve such a horrific crime sooner rather than later.

“These cases are always emotional and when you have one with a small child it adds a layer to that,” Ms. Manning said. “I’m a parent and I get it. As a prosecutor, though, I have to build a case based on evidence that takes time to establish.”

Sgt. Dudley said based on her regular talks with investigators, she hoped that some resolution could occur within two to three weeks. She is in regular contact with Ms. Manning and communicates via phone or email approximately three to four times a week.

“I would call her amazing,” Sgt. Dudley said of Ms. Manning.

http://delaware.newszap.com/centraldelaware/126632-70/year-later-mom-seeks-answers-in-sons-death

(I am not sure if she means 2-3 weeks from now, or 2-3 weeks from when Evan died.)

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the link to the MSM (delaware.online) says the article is no longer available....
 
the seeker said:
the link to the MSM (delaware.online) says the article is no longer available....
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I know, we have been unsuccessful getting it put back up.
Anyone can PM me if they'd still like to read it. :seeya:


Here are two that still work:

September 2013

http://www.airforcetimes.com/articl...4/Staff-sgt-seeks-answers-after-death-toddler


October 2013

http://delaware.newszap.com/centraldelaware/126632-70/year-later-mom-seeks-answers-in-sons-death


And here is a NEW article!!!

December 2013

Toddler killed while military mom stationed overseas

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=9327717


Here is the facebook for Evan:

https://www.facebook.com/InMemoryOfEvanJDudley
 
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