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I have to get caught up on things here, but from the looks of the previous page...we are no closer than we were before.
We need to get things back on track here and figure out the missing pieces. Since D & G aren't giving us much to work with, we need to avoid the tangents and try to keep the facts straight. Speculation is one thing, but going down the wrong paths over and over will not lead anywhere.
Agreed
Absolutely!!Agreed
Unfortunately I agree. It seems that it is taking some posters most of their available time on here correcting facts that were uncovered early on and verified. I find this counter-productive and frankly have not spent much time here as a result. There are a slew of posters on this thread that spend an exhaustive amount of time checking their facts and uncovering new possibilities, I just would like to see their work both more respected, and in short, want to help, and their objective is to solve these cases and give families answers. If that is not someones goal I would question why they are on here.
Fran, RR, DD, SuzQ, SS, Agigi,DS, VG, V3,LB,Shadow, Roxye, and whoever I forgot and will undoubtedly need to recognize following "submit" I hope you realize that your work for this guys is important and it matters and to hang in. Sorry for the rant, this matters, imho.
People who don't agree with you aren't supposed to post? As I see it; alcohol and drug awareness never hurt anyone. The only thing that hurts; is when the dangers of alcohol or drug abuse are ignored. And if this is simply a bs ratings grab by KTSP and a dead end trail that Gannon went broke following; then the kids who really were murdered; like possibly Josh Szostak and maybe a couple of others; have been completely hosed. That is; their families who want answers have been hosed. KTSP got the story in the summer of 2007, but they held the story for 9 months until ratings sweeps week. Why was that? As they held their juicy story; 9 more kids drowned during the 2007-2008 school year. It's wrong to question this? Gannon said he went public to warn others; yet he had no problem with KTSP holding the story for 9 months and waiting for ratings sweeps week? Obviously the warning should have come BEFORE the school year if this was really genuine
Anyone can post all they want, but keeping things on track here doesn't mean we will be inclined to respond to continually argue points with them. I think we have wasted a lot of effort and time by doing this while it has gotten us nowhere! Why continue doing something that isn't working and bringing the case any further ahead? Makes no sense to me.
Blink, I think you have a great idea as a new place to start. We can get to work on that while you enjoy yourself. You have earned a break!
Anyone can post all they want, but keeping things on track here doesn't mean we will be inclined to respond to continually argue points with them. I think we have wasted a lot of effort and time by doing this while it has gotten us nowhere! Why continue doing something that isn't working and bringing the case any further ahead? Makes no sense to me.
Blink, I think you have a great idea as a new place to start. We can get to work on that while you enjoy yourself. You have earned a break!
Sl- I am happy to discuss ANY opinions based on facts that further the investigation of these occurances. That being said, know that you post to be combative with your meritless and whimsical opinions, look above as an example. Do you sincerely belive that people on this thread are relying on press accounts just as you are? Or do you think that maybe some of us have really done the diligence? This is not about being right, this is about compassion, justice, and prevention. You are clear that iyo, you believe there is an alcohol problem and some are accidents, some are suicides.. I have duly noted your final opinion/analysis, and wish you "luck" as there is clearly nothing left for you to say hear, with no malice on my part. I /we just don't agree and would like to further our discussion without your apparent antagonism. What if this were your son?
Peace was unaware of this thread, please welcome him/her, I brought this post over to address..
Peace- where did you see the LK info you are referencing about holidays- can you provide a link? Just an fyi, I do not believe you are supposed to post links from alternative blogs on here so I deleted it below from your original post) Thanks.
Originally Posted by Peace261
Based on the PI and LE investigation regarding the "latin kings" and their possible involvement with the smiley face drownings;
(deleted as is a webblogaddress)
.... a stretch..but what about a possible connection with the Latin Kings?
- The detectives are convinced its some sort of "gang" like group with a hierarchy
- Smiley faces are typically yellow and black, which are the latin king colors.
- Tommy Booth (PA) was last seen talking to two hispanic girls
- Brian Shaffer (OH) was last seen on a security camera talking to two girls (possibly hispanic?)
- Girls are likely involved since it would be easy for them (especially two girls) one could distract the guy while the other slips something into his drink (GHB or some other type of drug)
- Gangs almost always have girl members and certain initiations, this could be how they get into the gang.
There are other connections to this theory and I'm sure some of you could expand on this. Anyone else's thoughts on this?
Quoting: Ithaca College Student 448154
I just googled latin+king+gang. Their symbol is a crown. Didn't some of the smiley faces have crowns?
They also have holidays Jan.6, first week of March, and many others. Will have to check if any of these dates match days the college men went missing.
They also have a weird saying, "5 crowning, 6 drowning". Creepy.They also have chapters in 34 states, and yes, Illinois, Indiana, NY, Wisconsin, etc.
Nick was reported missing on February 5 .... and may have drowned on the 6!
Too creepy.
Peace.