GUILTY FL - Robert, 67, & Myriam Dienes, 56, murdered, 20 Aug 2015 *daughter sentenced LWOP*

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@SeesSeas Maybe now?

 

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@SeesSeas Maybe now?

Nothing new.
I think this motion may delay things a bit:
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02/15/2019 MOTION DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE: TO PROHIBIT THE STATE WITNESS FROM EXAMINING THE DEFENDANT OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE LIMITING THE SCOPE OF THE EXAMINATION TO COMPORT WITH THE COURT'S RULING AS TO BATTERED CHILD SYNDROME-ORDER TO BE PREPARED

 

[Niner]

Here's another @SeesSeas TIA!

 

[SeesSeas]

No hearings yet scheduled prior to JURY TRIAL in JULY.

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15-CF-012204-A
STATE OF FLORIDA VS NACHTMAN, NICOLE GENE
Open 2015-08-24 FELONY

Select Hearing Description Canceled Comment Hearing Date Hearing Time Hearing Location Judicial Officer Image
JURY TRIAL 2019-07-29 9:00 AM COURTROOM 51A 5TH FLOOR
401 N JEFFERSON ST
TAMPA, FL 33602 Sabella, Christopher C

JURY TRIAL 2019-07-22 9:00 AM COURTROOM 51A 5TH FLOOR
401 N JEFFERSON ST
TAMPA, FL 33602 Sabella, Christopher C

Document Index Clock-In Event Date Event Description Comment
218 03/11/2019 EVIDENCE DATA SHEET EDS # 190642
211 02/15/2019 COURT REPORTER BRITTANY BRIDGES
212 02/15/2019 WITH COUNSEL
213 02/15/2019 STATE ATTORNEY OFFICE
214 02/15/2019 MOTION DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE: TO PROHIBIT THE STATE WITNESS FROM EXAMINING THE DEFENDANT OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE LIMITING THE SCOPE OF THE EXAMINATION TO COMPORT WITH THE COURT'S RULING AS TO BATTERED CHILD SYNDROME-ORDER TO BE PREPARED

 

[SeesSeas]

Nothing new on the docket:
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15-CF-012204-A
STATE OF FLORIDA VS NACHTMAN, NICOLE GENE
Open 2015-08-24 FELONY

Just now saw this article while researching controversial Psychiatrist Emily Lazarou for another case (Jonchuck):
Controversial psychologist to interview woman accused of killing mom, stepdad
Updated Feb 15 2019 05:38PM EST
[...]
Now Dr. Lazarou is causing havoc in another high-profile case.

Defendant Nicole Nachtman is accused of killing her mom and stepdad. Nachtman claims she suffered from battered child syndrome, which drove her to kill.

A judge will allow the jury to hear about it, but first, the prosecution wants Dr. Lazarou to question Nachtman.

Dana Herce, her public defender is not happy about it.

"I'm certainly going to protect Ms. Nachtman from the things I have read Ms. Lazarou [did] during other interviews," said Herce.
[...]

 

[Niner]

Oh NO! Not Dr. Lazarou!! LOL!

and again thanks for checking for a court hearing on this one!

 

[SeesSeas]

Oh NO! Not Dr. Lazarou!! LOL!

and again thanks for checking for a court hearing on this one!

Yeah. . . my guess is that Lazarou will determine Nachtman did not suffer from battered child syndrome; and that Lazarou will have made her decision before ever meeting Nachtman.

 

[SeesSeas]

04/16/2019 - EXPERT WITNESS DOCTOR EMILY LAZAROU, MD, MS, RD
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15-CF-012204-A
STATE OF FLORIDA VS NACHTMAN, NICOLE GENE
Open 2015-08-24 FELONY

Document Index Clock-In Event Date Event Description Comment
219 04/16/2019 ADDITIONAL LIST OF WITNESSES

 

[Niner]

Hey SeesSeas! Thanks for that info.
Can you look & see if there are any court dates before trial in July?

TIA!

 

[SeesSeas]

Hey SeesSeas! Thanks for that info.
Can you look & see if there are any court dates before trial in July?

TIA!

I did look for court dates and I didn't find any hearings scheduled except for the July trial dates.

 

[SeesSeas]

No new court dates; just two docket entries:
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15-CF-012204-A
STATE OF FLORIDA VS NACHTMAN, NICOLE GENE
Open 2015-08-24 FELONY

Document Index Clock-In Event Date Event Description Comment Image
220 04/24/2019 WITNESS LIST


221 04/24/2019 NOTICE OF INTENT TO RELY UPON THE DEFENSE OF INSANITY EXISTING AT THE TIME OF THE OFFENSES

 

[SeesSeas]

No hearings scheduled.
Trial is still JULY.
Docket shows numerous subpoenas during MAY.
Case Search
15-CF-012204-A
STATE OF FLORIDA VS NACHTMAN, NICOLE GENE
Open 2015-08-24 FELONY

JURY TRIAL 2019-07-22 9:00 AM COURTROOM 51A 5TH FLOOR
JURY TRIAL 2019-07-29 9:00 AM COURTROOM 51A 5TH FLOOR

 

[SeesSeas]

06/06/2019 NOTICE OF RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY - Video Evaluation of Nicole Nachtman by Dr. Emily Lazarou
No hearings scheduled.
Trial is still JULY.
Docket shows numerous subpoenas during JUNE.
Case Search
15-CF-012204-A
STATE OF FLORIDA VS NACHTMAN, NICOLE GENE
Open 2015-08-24 FELONY

JURY TRIAL 2019-07-22 9:00 AM COURTROOM 51A 5TH FLOOR
JURY TRIAL 2019-07-29 9:00 AM COURTROOM 51A 5TH FLOOR

295 06/06/2019 NOTICE OF RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY

 

[Niner]

Is a former FSU student a battered child, mentally ill or a liar? A jury in her murder trial will be asked to decide.


TAMPA — The first expert will say Nicole Nachtman is a battered child, a young woman made to feel so helpless and afraid of her mother that death was seen as a way out.

The second expert will say Nachtman is mentally ill, that schizophrenia made her unaware of what she was doing or the consequences of her actions.

The third expert will say that Nachtman is a liar, who made up or exaggerated tales of abuse and mental illness after she shot her mother and stepfather in 2015 at their Carrollwood home.

Who can be believed? A jury will have to decide.
[.....]
Nachtman, a former Florida State University student, goes on trial this week in a Tampa courtroom. She’s accused of two counts of first-degree murder in the 2015 deaths of Myriam and Robert Dienes.

 

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Is a former FSU student a battered child, mentally ill or a liar? A jury in her murder trial will be asked to decide.

TAMPA — The first expert will say Nicole Nachtman is a battered child, a young woman made to feel so helpless and afraid of her mother that death was seen as a way out.

The second expert will say Nachtman is mentally ill, that schizophrenia made her unaware of what she was doing or the consequences of her actions.

The third expert will say that Nachtman is a liar, who made up or exaggerated tales of abuse and mental illness after she shot her mother and stepfather in 2015 at their Carrollwood home.

Who can be believed? A jury will have to decide.
[.....]
Nachtman, a former Florida State University student, goes on trial this week in a Tampa courtroom. She’s accused of two counts of first-degree murder in the 2015 deaths of Myriam and Robert Dienes.

Hmmmm.... let me guess which expert thinks Nachtman is a liar.
Dr Lazarou
Bingo! Correct answer! NOT surprised!

Is a former FSU student a battered child, mentally ill or a liar? A jury in her murder trial will be asked to decide.
Jury selection is set to begin Monday. The trial is expected to last two weeks.

 

[Niner]

Monday, July 22nd:
*Trial set to begin (@ 9am ET) – FL – Robert (67) step father & Myriam Carey Dienes (56) mother (Aug. 20, 2015, Tampa) - *Nicole Gene Nachtman (21) arrested (8/21/15) with 2 counts of 1st degree murder with a firearm. Plead not guilty reason of insanity. Held without bond.
Defense says Nachtman suffers from “Battered Child Syndrome”, which drove her to kill.
Trial begins 7/22 & 7/29 on.

 

[SeesSeas]

Good overview of case in this article:
Murder trial begins for former FSU student accused of killing parents
Updated: 12:35 PM EDT July 22, 2019
TAMPA, Fla. — Four years ago, Hillsborough County deputies found 56-year-old Myriam Dienes and 67-year-old Robert Dienes dead from gunshot wounds in their Carrollwood home.

Nicole Nachtman, now 25, is accused in the deaths of her mother and stepfather. Her murder trial begins Monday.
[...]

 

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Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 8h8 hours ago
The trial of Nicole Nachtman begins this morning in Hillsborough Circuit Court. Here's some background, ICYMI: @TB_Times

Is a former FSU student a battered child, mentally ill or a liar? A jury in her murder trial will be asked to decide.


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 8h8 hours ago
As mentioned, the defense has laid the groundwork to argue that Nachtman suffered battered child syndrome and was insane at the time of the killings. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 8h8 hours ago
In the initial discussion this morning, prosecutor reminded the judge that the defense must lay a foundation for self-defense claim if battered child defense is to be allowed. That might mean that Nachtman will have to testify at some point. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 8h8 hours ago
Nachtman is seated in the courtroom, donning a black and white dress. She jots notes at a defense table most of the time. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 8h8 hours ago
The judge asked Nachtman how she was doing. "Could be better, could be worse," she said. He swore her in and asked if she understood that her attorneys intend to raise two affirmative defenses, meaning they will admit she committed the killings. "Yes, sir," she said. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 8h8 hours ago
More than 100 people are in the potential jury pool. The lawyers plan to ask them first if they can commit to being on the jury for two weeks. Those who can will then be asked if they've been exposed to media coverage. @TB_Times

Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 8h8 hours ago
The lawyers and the judge say they expect jury selection to last through tomorrow. We could get to opening statements Tuesday afternoon. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 5h5 hours ago
It's slow going here in the Nicole Nachtman jury selection. The initial pool of 100 jurors has been seated for about an hour. About half of them have said they have some knowledge of the case from news coverage. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 5h5 hours ago
The judge read the indictment, and a statement of facts, saying that Nachtman is accused of killing her mother and stepfather at their Carrollwood home and that she was arrested at FSU, where she was a student. Nachtman sat with hunched shoulders, looking down. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 5h5 hours ago
The judge introduced Nachtman to the jurors. She stood, gazing down, never making eye contact with anyone. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 5h5 hours ago
Lots of people say it would be difficult to commit to a two-week trial. Lots of medical procedures, pre-planned vacations, weddings, and new babies. Some said missing work would be a financial burden. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 5h5 hours ago
A couple folks said they know some of the court personnel. One guy said he used to work for the sheriff's office and knows the courtroom deputies. He also knows Judge Sabella, who used to be an attorney for the sheriff's office. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 5h5 hours ago
Another guy said Judge Sabella was the judge in a trial he found himself involved in

"I was your judge?" Sabella asked.

"Yes." "I hesitate to ask the next question." @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 5h5 hours ago
The court is taking a break for lunch. The judge has asked several people to check with their employers, etc. on whether they could serve on the jury. @TB_Times


Dan Sullivan‏Verified account @TimesDan 25m25 minutes ago
The Nachtman trial is done for the day. The initial pool of 100 was whittled down to approx. 50-60 jurors. Some questions included whether jurors owned firearms, if they already had an opinion about the case and if they'd be bothered seeing gruesome images. Back at 9 am

 

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Murder trial begins for former FSU student accused of shooting, killing parents (with clip)
Defense argue insanity, 'battered child syndrome'

Jul 22, 2019

"TAMPA, Fla. – On Monday, a judge led jury selection in the case against former Florida State University student, Nicole Nachtman, for the double murder of her parents.

It's been nearly four years since was arrested in the deaths of Myriam and Robert Dienes.

Nachtman's lawyers aren't fighting whether she did it, they acknowledge she did, but they do have two defenses on why he shouldn't spend the rest of her life in jail.

A meek Nicole Nachtman arrived in court Monday morning.

Nachtman is accused of shooting and killing her mother and stepfather in 2015. Her lawyers are arguing two defenses.

"For the record here, she is consenting to the killing of her parents but in no way consenting or admitting that she -- that these were premeditated," said her defense to the judge before jury selection...."

Murder trial begins for former FSU student accused of shooting, killing parents

 

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