France - Maëlys De Araujo, 9, found deceased, Pont-de-Beauvoisin, 27 Aug 2017 #2

Éric Foray : un mois après la découverte du crâne, son compagnon attend toujours des réponses


It is a painful daily life that Régis Pique lives in his house in Chatuzange-le-Goubet (Drôme). The life of a man who has, since 4 January, the certainty that his companion is dead, but who is unable to mourn. On 4 January, the Valence public prosecutor's office announced the discovery of the skull of Eric Foray, missing since 2016, in Barbières, in the foothills of the Vercors, only ten kilometres from the victim's home.

Since then, the investigation seems to be hampered by the lack of convincing clues. Régis Pique does not know how the man he loved died, whether he was the victim of a murder: "I see the expert report on the skull, I have horrible images in my head, I don't even know if he suffered. This expert report states that the skull was found with several fractures, without being able to determine the origin of the injuries: a blow that was not very violent, or a fall."

Eric Foray disappeared with his car, which was not found near the skull, nor was the rest of the body.
Moreover, the gendarmerie has relaunched the call for witnesses concerning the vehicle, a gold-coloured Suzuki Grand Vitara, registration number EA-858-RS. The Foray-Pique couple often went to Barbières to walk their dogs. "We searched the area at the beginning, during the first searches, we saw nothing, we may have just passed by, it's horrible. The precise location of the discovery has not been revealed at this time, the discovery was made in September."

"I just wish that justice was more humane, that I was kept informed of the progress of the investigation, of the enquiries. I have the impression that if I don't fight, it will be forgotten", Régis Pique regrets. Without an answer, he finds it hard to mourn. "I know he's not coming back, I only started moving his things out of the bathroom a few days ago," he says. On the letterbox, his name and that of Eric Foray remain side by side, frozen, like the mystery surrounding his death.


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STORY. "I immediately sensed death": the shadow of Lelandais on the missing of the fort of Tamié

Jean-Christophe Morin disappeared in September 2011, during an evening of electronic music at the Fort de Tamié, high in the mountains of Savoie. A year later, almost to the day, during another edition of the event, Ahmed Hamadou vanished in the same forest. For more than a decade, the two families have been fighting to find out the truth. The file has finally arrived at the "cold cases" unit in Nanterre.


"Up there. That is what Farida Hamadou and Adeline Morin call the corner of the mountain where their brothers disappeared. Jean-Christophe Morin has not been heard from since he went to an electronic music party organised in the fort of Tamié, situated at an altitude of 992 m, on a promontory of forest overlooking Albertville (Savoie).

The following year, Ahmed Hamadou disappeared under similar circumstances. The press called them "the missing men of Fort Tamié". The arrest of Nordahl Lelandais for crimes committed in the region in 2017, then the discovery of a skull below the fort in 2020, have dusted off these two cases that seemed forgotten by the judicial institution. A few weeks ago, these disappearances were entrusted to a new investigating judge of the "cold cases" unit created at the Nanterre court (Hauts-de-Seine).

On Saturday 10 September 2011, Jean-Christophe and his friends decided to go to an electro party organised in the fort of Tamié. Part of the group leaves by car, Jean-Christophe and his friend Quentin, who do not have a car, join them by hitchhiking.

In the crowd, the two men lose sight of each other. A witness comes across Jean-Christophe, who seems panicked at the entrance to the fort. He tries to hold him back, but the young man struggles. He told him that someone was "after him", ran off in front of him and disappeared into the forest.

On Monday 12 September, Quentin found Jean-Christophe's truck empty. He went to the police station to report his disappearance.
The following weekend, a childhood friend of the young man, Amandine, called Adeline to tell her that her brother had not been heard from. The sister went to the gendarmerie in Sallanches, then to the one in Albertville, closer to the fort. The gendarmes tell her that the first searches have taken place, but they cannot find any trace of Jean-Christophe.

In October, her family decides to organise a search around the fort and launches an appeal to the press. The Albertville gendarmerie tried to dissuade Adeline, without success. Gendarmes finally took part in the search, to help frame the process, in a sector made up of woods and cliffs. "What drives you crazy up there is that it's only forest", the sister of Jean-Christophe explains. "And then a man who runs, with adrenalin, he can go a long way. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack."

A final search took place at the end of October, with a helicopter from the high mountain police force (PGHM) and the help of dogs specialised in searching for bodies. Only the young man's backpack was found, a few dozen metres opposite the entrance to the fort.

A simple procedure was put in place for "investigation in the interest of the families." Adeline then created a Facebook group dedicated to the disappearance of her brother, to try to obtain information and to spread the search notice. Christmas came and the young man gave no sign of life to his family.

A year passed and nothing had happened. On 8 September 2012, "Elementz III", a new edition of the electro event was organised. "We said to ourselves that we would go up there and look for people who had been at the party the previous year," Adeline Morin tells. During these electronic music events, people come back year after year, the public gathers from all over France and Europe. And what if a witness to Jean-Christophe's disappearance was present that evening and gave them new information? The family set up a stand near the entrance, distributed flyers and T-shirts bearing the image of the young man. The relatives did not get any new information that evening. But unknowingly, they witnessed a scene that would haunt them for a long time. "During the evening, we heard an altercation in front of the entrance.

In the fort's car park, two men were swerving in their cars. Security spotted them. As they arrived at the festival entrance, one of them got into an argument with the security guards, who refused to let them through. These are the voices heard by the family and friends of Jean-Christophe Morin. The second man, who remains silent, is called Ahmed Hamdou. After the quarrel, he slips away. This is the last time he will be seen.


Our meeting with Farida Hamadou almost never took place. The fault of a change of line and a capricious telephone. She finally receives us on a Tuesday evening in November 2022 in her cosy flat in the north-west of Chambéry, in Savoie. As the television runs without sound, she begins: "I am Ahmed Hamadou's sister."

There were eleven siblings. Seven brothers, four sisters. "Now there are only seven of us. Ahmed is a year older than me." He would be 55 today. Until his death in 2012, he and Farida were close and saw each other regularly. "He lived eight hundred metres from here", in this neighbourhood of high buildings. Among the siblings, he was the "joker", "a trickster", a "Robin Hood". He kept "bad company," his sister regrets, "He was not cautious."

On 8 September, he went out with Yan, an acquaintance he had met a few days earlier through his friend Julien.
The two men scoured the bars of Albertville. They decide to go to the Fort de Tamié, where the electronic party is taking place, where Jean-Christophe disappeared one year earlier. But they never enter the fort, turned away by the security.

In mid-September, Farida has dinner at a friend's house, who tells her that the door to her brother's flat has been ajar for a few days. When she went there, the flat was empty. "I called the hospitals and the police to find out if anything had happened to him. No one saw Ahmed. "I immediately felt that something serious had happened. I immediately sensed death."

Farida Hamadou and Adeline Morin of course reported the disappearance of their brothers, but this had no real consequences. Because the two men are of age. "We were told: he has the right to disappear, he is an adult", laments Farida Hamadou. Preliminary investigations were opened under pressure from the families, according to their lawyer, Didier Seban. A notice of discontinuation for unsuccessful search was issued on 11 July 2014 in the case of Jean-Christophe Morin's disappearance, in June 2015 for that of Ahmed Hamadou. The families were not informed.

"Even today, the families find themselves alone when faced with these disappearances. They will create a Facebook account with search notices and go to the courts. Unless it's the disappearance of a minor child, most of the time there is no investigation, there is no search," says Seban.

The context of the disappearance, an electronic festival, leads both women to believe that the investigators were less involved than in other situations. "I think they must have thought: 'They're all drug addicts, they're all a bit nuts'", Farida Hamadou assumes. "When we told the police that we were convinced that there was something going on, that it wasn't just a simple disappearance, they didn't want to know. It was a double shock," she continues. "They are "party people". Nobody cares", Adeline Morin agrees.

Some tell Farida and Adeline: "Forget it, he's made a new life for himself. Others say that their brother died of cold, at the foot of a tree. But these two disappearances, from one year to the next, cannot be the result of coincidence for the families. "I can't accept this second disappearance," says Adeline Morin. "If there hadn't been this second 'disappearance', I would have said to myself: 'My brother fell into a crevasse'.

Nothing, or almost nothing, happens until the autumn of 2017. The broadcasters then began to focus on the murder of Maëlys, 7 years old, abducted and killed during a wedding in Pont-de-Beauvoisin, in Isère. Nordahl Lelandais, the number one suspect, was indicted on 30 November. A few weeks later, France learned that the girl was probably not his only victim. The former dog handler is under investigation for the murder of Corporal Arthur Noyer, who disappeared after a nightclub party in Chambéry in April 2017 and whose bones were found on a hiking trail in Montmélian, about 20 kilometres from the city.

Is Lelandais a serial killer? The press quickly made the rounds of unsolved cases in the region. The phones of the two women began to ring. Some journalists, who could not reach Farida Hamadou, rang her doorbell unexpectedly. Cameras came from Marseille and Paris. France 3 then wrote that "more or less close links exist" between the cases.

In January 2018, the national gendarmerie created the Ariane cell, based in Pontoise (Val-d'Oise), to investigate if Nordahl Lelandais could have been involved in other murders or disappearances. Of the 900 files studied, forty are identified for re-examination. Le Parisien claims that the case of the missing Tamié is one of them. "Apparently, the investigators were able to eliminate certain files because Nordahl Lelandais was not in these regions at that time. But tell me he wasn't there in 2011! Tell me he was somewhere else, in another department, in another country! I'm just waiting for this to be over and done," Adeline despairs. Since then, the Ariane cell has been dissolved, without the Hamadou and Morin families having any news.

Adeline and Farida finally met in 2017, on the set of the television programme Envoyé Spécial. They joined their grief. "We fell into each other's arms," says Jean-Christophe Morin's sister. "This is what has made us strong since. It is because we are together that we manage to make things happen.

In the first weeks of 2018, a journalist advised the two women to approach Maître Corinne Herrmann, associated with Didier Seban. The two lawyers are specialists in "cold cases", unsolved crimes, files that often gather dust in the offices of investigating judges. The two families filed a complaint against X in March 2018 for "kidnapping and sequestration" before the Albertville court. No one had advised them to do so before.

In December 2018 and January 2019, Yan and Julien, who had made him meet Ahmed, were questioned again by the gendarmerie.

Months pass. Hunters find a skull in the rocky ridges below the fort of Tamié, in October 2020. The two women learn the news by reading the press. Adeline Morin and her lawyer insisted that analyses be carried out on the bones found, six months after their discovery. It was not until a few months later that the news broke. Corinne Herrmann called Farida Hamadou and told her that the Criminal Research Institute of the Gendarmerie Nationale (IRCGN) had given its conclusions and established a match with Ahmed's DNA. But this has not yet been confirmed by the courts. A second analysis is necessary.

"The IRCGN says that there is a 95% probability that it is Ahmed Hamadou's. Ahmed Hamadou disappeared near the place where the skull was found. For me, it is Ahmed Hamadou. That's it," according to Didier Seban, in charge of the case since his colleague Corinne Hermann founded her own law firm. And he denounced: "Once you have said that, what you would expect from justice is that it should carry out a huge search to try to find the rest of the body. They didn't."

In the spring of 2022, the families asked for the case to be transferred to the newly created "cold cases" unit in Nanterre, in the hope that the investigation would finally progress. In August, the prosecutor in Chambéry refused to send the case to Nanterre because of a lack of criminal evidence. The families and Didier Seban organised a demonstration in front of the town's court, followed by a press conference, to put pressure on them. They finally won their case last September.

Farida Hamadou, Adeline Morin and the families of the two men now oscillate between hope and scepticism, without being able to shake off their fears of never knowing the truth. "The more time passes, the more we brood. Sometimes we despair," explains Farida Hamadou, who wonders: "I'm getting older. Will I die without knowing the truth?

Didier Seban expects "that the search for the rest of Ahmed's body will be carried out, that particular attention will be paid to the two dates of disappearance of our clients within the framework of the investigation of the criminal career of Nordahl Lelandais, that the people who were there at the time of the two evenings will be heard again to try to identify what may have happened."

What material traces will the investigators be able to rely on? In the case of the missing of Fort Tamié, there remains a skull, but no evidence: the backpack of Jean-Christophe Morin was destroyed by justice after the case was closed.

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Chatuzange-le-Goubet - Ils recherchent les "oubliés du destin"


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Chatuzange-le-Goubet - They search for those "forgotten ones of fate"

The ARPD association, composed of volunteers, seeks to solve unexplained disappearances. The Drôme branch was notably involved in the investigation into the disappearance of Eric Foray who vanished on 16 September 2016.

"Les oubliés du destin" [ those forgotten ones of fate]. Jean-François Martin, head of the ARPD (Assistance and Research for Missing Persons) branch in the Drôme uses this phrase to describe people who disappear overnight, as if vanished, without a trace. "We can notice that a person is not wearing a mask at fifty metres. But here, people are disappearing and nobody has seen anything. It's incomprehensible," according to the former local civil servant, who is now retired.

More locally, Jean-François Martin, in charge of the disappearance of Nelly Balmain - each volunteer investigator is assigned a case - is also surprised that no one has seen anything. Nelly Balmain, aged 29, had left the family home in Saint-Jean-en-Royans on 8 October 2011 on her scooter, registration number BB 812 H. "She left at around 7pm, leaving her mobile phone and her bank card behind. Since then, she has never been seen again. She had a red Ferrari scooter. I can tell you that It does not go unnoticed. It's incredible how it has disappeared."

Concerning the disappearance of Eric Foray, who has never been heard from since 16 September 2016 in Chatuzange-le-Goubet and whose skull was found on 4 January this year, Michel Boulanger, the association's investigator, says that there are "a whole bunch of leads, but none with a serious hook."

The Drôme branch consists of five investigators, the majority of whom are retired. Nathalie Balossier, Jean-Paul Gruyère, Christelle Durand, Michel Boulanger and Jean-François Martin try to solve investigations with their own resources. Of course, they cannot wiretap a suspect or carry out a search, but they bring a fresh perspective to the investigation. A fresh eye that sometimes reveals a tiny detail that has gone under the radar. In France, every year, around 65,000 people disappear, including 50,000 minors (mainly runaways of varying lengths) and 15,000 adults. A thousand of them are never found. When contacted by the family of the missing person, the Arpd volunteers provide unwavering support to the relatives and, in the event of the discovery of new evidence, warn the police.

"When a family contacts us, we give them advice on how to notify the police, look at their bank accounts or check whether the missing person had taken any belongings with them," Jean-François Martin tells. "But above all, we offer our support. We share the pain of the relatives. Personally, I am in contact with Nelly's parents and see them once a month. They tell me that thanks to our action, their daughter continues to exist."

The association is fighting to ensure that these unsolved disappearances do not become a case piled up on top of others and forgotten in the obscurity of the justice system. On the contrary, through their actions, the disappeared continue to exist.

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Les Oubliés du destin is a book by Julia LeClere about persons who are unable to live and unable to die.

"These people, my dear friend, were beings incapable of dying, incapable of living. They were the fixed and unwanted points of the universe. The doomed, the cursed... they were those who lived between two worlds. The past and the future. I will tell you the story of one of them. One of those immortals... Those who were called the forgotten ones of fate."

I am not sure what the book is about, apparently it is Fantasy, but the description is fitting for a person who has gone missing.

The other thing that caught my eye are the characteristics of the scooter of Nelly Balmain. A red Ferrari that does not go unnoticed. Eric Foray was driving a golden Suzuki, also a car that is hard to miss. Yet bot vehicles have disappeared on the way, never to been seen again.
 
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The other thing that caught my eye are the characteristics of the scooter of Nelly Balmain. A red Ferrari that does not go unnoticed. Eric Foray was driving a golden Suzuki, also a car that is hard to miss. Yet bot vehicles have disappeared on the way, never to been seen again.

Personally I did not know Ferrari made scooters! I shall have to look into that! :D

Now that I have looked - I wonder which one Nelly had?

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Personally I did not know Ferrari made scooters! I shall have to look into that! :D

Now that I have looked - I wonder which one Nelly had?

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:D:D

The one on the right of course. The real thing!
Don't know if those foldable ones were in fashion in 2011 when Nelly disappeared, but those tiny wheels were never made for rural areas. Bump! Bump! Bump!
 
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The one on the right of course. The real thing!
Don't know if those foldable ones were in fashion in 2011 when Nelly disappeared, but those tiny wheels were never made for rural areas. Bump! Bump! Bump!

LOL! :D You are probably right. I think those foldable ones only came out like a few years ago... we have them all over town for rent. I am NOT going to try one! LOL! :)
 
LOL! :D You are probably right. I think those foldable ones only came out like a few years ago... we have them all over town for rent. I am NOT going to try one! LOL! :)

The THING on the left is called a 'trottinette' in French. For on the pavement, trottoir in French.
The original text mentions a scooter, not a trottinette.
 
@Niner 's Ferrari scooter

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Ferrari Red is a particular colour. And famous.

If you have a Ferrari Scooter in Ferrari Red, you are not going to repaint it, and you will keep the Ferrari logo.

This made me think that perhaps Nelly Balmain was targeted because of her scooter. I had always imagined that her scooter would be rather non-descript, in grey or pale blue. Not flashing Ferrari Red, somehow she does not seem that kind of person. Mistake all mine!

Just like Eric Foray, who happened to drive a Golden Suzuki Grand Vitara, was not the main target, but collateral damage. Who will steal a golden car if he has to paint it grey to be able to use it? You'd steal a grey or black car to begin with IMO.

If both disappearances are related, what happened to their vehicles? Would the perp hold on to them as a keepsake of sorts? That would be risky, and easier to do in the case of the scooter. For the scooter, the space of a big cupboard will do. For hiding the car, one would need at least a big shed where no one else has access, and a heap of straw or hay.

The other option is car jacking. The Suzuki and the Ferrari scooter were transported to another continent and sold there. This presumes that the perp(s) are part of a network. The network may or may not be aware of the fate of the owners.

If the cases are unrelated, and both came to (self) harm ~ without interference of another party, IMO their vehicles would have been located.
 
Didier Seban : « Un meurtre non élucidé, c’est pire qu’un secret de famille » !

As investigators know, the more the months go by, the more the mobilisation to solve a criminal investigation diminishes. In order to keep these old cases alive, a cold case unit was created by law n° 2021-1729 of 22 December 2021 to increase confidence in the judicial system. This centre, which came into operation in March 2022, is the result of a long struggle led by the families of victims and certain lawyers. Among them, Didier Seban, who has been specialising in unsolved crimes for twenty years. For Actu-Juridique, he was willing to take stock of the first months of activity of this new unit. Interview.

Actu-Juridique: Why were you in favour of creating a unit dedicated to cold cases?

Didier Seban: In France, the jurisdiction of a magistrate or an investigating judge is naturally based on the place where the crime was committed. The magistrate in charge of the case will investigate the case with his or her local investigating judge's resources, it being understood that he or she may have 150 cases at the same time. Some of these cases involve prisoners. The judge will then treat them as a priority, and this is normal, because cases involving detainees imply obligations in terms of the deadline for referral to the court. This will lead him to neglect cases that have not been solved. As for the police and gendarmes in charge of the investigation, they will turn away from these cases if they do not quickly find convincing leads. They also have to respond to various orders from the Ministry of the Interior, which may set priorities for them, such as the fight against urban rodeos or drug trafficking.

Little by little, one issue overlaps the other. This explains why the clearance rate for murders in France is only 70% and why it is not improving, or even declining, despite the progress made by the forensic police. One would have thought that with the progress in DNA, we would be approaching 100% of cleared cases. We believe that justice must be able to solve these murders, in particular thanks to progress in forensic science.

Actu-Juridique: You urge the justice system to take more interest in disappearances. Why is that?

Didier Seban: The so-called unsolved cases are only the tip of an iceberg made up of numerous disappearances in which no one is interested. Not all disappearances are obviously murders: some people disappear voluntarily or have an accident. Nevertheless, disappearances can hide murders. Indeed, the best way to keep a murder case from coming out is to make the body disappear. I am shocked to note that we do not have any figures on disappearances in France. We only know that there are a thousand people buried under X every year. Among them, there are perhaps missing persons who are buried without knowing their identity. This is not nothing!

In the context of the Nordahl Lelandais affair, convicted for the kidnapping and murder of Maëlys de Araujo, the police launched an appeal for witnesses and received more than a thousand reports of worrying disappearances.
[*] This is a considerable number, and it only includes people who have families to look for them.

My firm, after more than 20 years of working on unsolved murders, obtained the creation of a DNA file of people buried under X. After the Yonne disappearance case, we also obtained the possibility of referring a suspicious disappearance to an investigating judge. Families do not know this enough

Actu-Juridique: Does the justice system have figures on unsolved murders?

Didier Seban: Not for the moment. The cold case unit of Nanterre is trying to establish this list. It's difficult, because the courts don't keep track of unsolved cases or worrying disappearances in their jurisdiction. If you ask a public prosecutor to give you the number of unsolved murders in his or her jurisdiction over the last 20 or 30 years, you will find that he or she has no list to give you. Some journalists have been called by public prosecutors asking if they could list the murders that have been committed in the local press... It's all very small-scale.

Recently, a magistrate from the Paris Court of Appeal was asked to look for criminal cases that had been dismissed in order to see if some of them could be taken up by the Nanterre centre. She identified more than 240 cases that had ended in such an order because the perpetrator could not be identified. This is a little known and little analysed subject. How can we have a criminal policy on these subjects without knowing them well? Yet we are talking about the most serious acts, the most severely punished by the Criminal Code.

For the victims' families, this lack of interest in justice has terrible consequences. An unsolved crime will affect several generations: parents, brothers and sisters, children. An unsolved murder is worse than a family secret. The perpetrator could be the neighbour, the cousin, the lover. The victim's family members, thinking that they may be close to the murderer, forbid themselves to live.

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More at link (in French)


[ * ] Alain Jacubowicz, defense lawyer of Nordahl Lelandais mentioned the same reaction of the public in a recent series of podcasts:

.... in the weeks that followed, with the creation of the "Ariane" cell seeking a link between Nordahl Lelandais and other unsolved disappearance cases, the task of the defence lawyers became even more complicated: they were on all fronts and had to prepare to respond to possible new accusations. The Lelandais affair then takes on another dimension and Alain Jakubowicz does not hide his annoyance: "the disappeared of the entire world, it is Nordahl Lelandais who murdered them, because it happened within a radius of 200km from where he lives! We were going around like crazy! We are selling hope to all those people who are looking for a loved one [who has disappeared], and it's disgusting...." he insisted.


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Nouvelle victime de Nordahl Lelandais ? Des restes humains et la voiture d'Eric Foray, disparu en 2016, retrouvés dans la Drôme

After the discovery of his skull last summer, the car and human remains of Eric Foray, who disappeared in 2016, were found by investigators in Grenoble on Thursday 6 April.

The vehicle of Eric Foray, who disappeared in 2016, and human remains have been found in a mountainous area by investigators from Grenoble and gendarmes from the Drôme, the Valence prosecutor's office announced on Thursday.


The skull of the man, aged 47 at the time of his disappearance, had already been discovered last summer in the Vercors mountains. In January, after analysis, the Valence prosecutor's office confirmed that it was that of Eric Foray, last seen on 16 September 2016 shopping in a shop in Chatuzange-le-Goubet (near Romans-sur-Isère), stating that the causes of his death remained to be discovered, 'like the rest of his body'.

On Thursday, the public prosecutor's office did not specify the exact circumstances or the location of the new discoveries, merely indicating that the search by investigators from the Grenoble search department and the Drôme gendarmerie group had "been carried out in a mountainous context that is particularly difficult to access" on 3 April.


"They led to the discovery of a heavily damaged vehicle, identified as the one driven by Eric Foray at the time of his disappearance," said Laurent de Caigny, the Valence public prosecutor, in a statement. "In the vicinity of this vehicle, human remains and various items were found," he added.

The findings will be examined by experts and "the investigation will continue without ruling out any hypothesis, criminal or accidental," the prosecutor said. "It is surprising and regrettable that a rather conspicuous object such as a car took to be found so long until now.
"At least, after the discovery of the skull, it allows the family to have a definitive conclusion on the fate of this person, even if the circumstances remain to be established," according to Bernard Valézy, the national vice-president of the ARPD (Assistance and Search for Missing Persons), which supports in particular Régis Pique, Eric Foray's long-time partner.

In 2018, the authorities had launched calls for witnesses in the context of investigations into two disappearances in the Drôme, including that of Eric Foray, to establish a possible involvement of Nordahl Lelandais, while specifying that "nothing at this stage in the case could be linked to Nordahl Lelandais."

Lelandais was sentenced in February 2022 to life imprisonment for the murder of eight-year-old Maëlys in August 2017. He was already serving a 20-year sentence for the murder of young soldier Arthur Noyer in April 2017.

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Régis Pique on FB:


Since January, when Eric's skull was found, I had no news. Nothing, total silence. I felt powerless. I went to the police station where, of course, they didn't want to tell me anything.
I wonder if the justice system realizes how much one can suffer, be destroyed.
The horrible images that assail you all day long and even at night.

Today I was told that the car was found as well as other remains and clothes of Eric nearby. But no more details, where or how. Was the skull in the same place?
 
Mort d’Éric Foray originaire de Nancy: sa voiture et des restes humains découverts, "la thèse du meurtre est privilégiée"

Bernard Boulloud is the lawyer of Régis Pique who was Eric Foray's companion. He is responsible for the reopening of the case after filing a complaint with the senior investigating judge. The investigation has been relaunched. "The investigating judge informed me yesterday evening of the progress of the procedure. So my client, Régis Pique, thinks that finally things are moving forward. Perhaps we will finally know what happened. Obviously the suspicion of murder is considered to be the most likely," he told France 3 Lorraine.


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So this wasn't a carjacking after all. The car was never shipped to Africa. In fact, it was problably quite nearby all the time.

I've been reading a lot in the press about these recent developments. The name of Nordahl Lelandais is often mentioned. I wonder why. NL abducted his victims in his own car. He left their remains in remote areas in the mountains. He carried Maëlys' body far into the mountains and threw it off a cliff into a groove. He could not carry the remains of Arthur Noyer that far, he left his body on the steep side of a small road if I remember well.
And in both cases, he returned home by car.

Eric Foray disappeared with his car, and his remains were found near the car. If this was a murder, the MO is totally different from that of NL.
The location of the car has not been made public. It would have been in the Vercors Mountains. One source mentions the area of the Col de Tourniol, near Barbières. The mountain ridge is visible from Barbières, but the area behind it is vast, with rocks, cliffs and forests.

The Col de Tourniol is popular with cyclists.

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From what I have seen, the roads into the area are good and a car could drive there. A car would also stand out like a lighthouse on fire. In september, there still would be cyclists around, and hikers too.

So one wonders how the car got to the place where it was found, a place of difficult acces and beneath a moutain road. Did they throw it off a cliff? Régis Pique wonders.

And how did the perpetrator make it home if he was on his own? The phone of Eric Foray would have pinged for the last time in an area of Romans sur Isère. That is a very long walk, even more so at night.
 
Affaire Eric Foray : "Ce n'est ni un accident ni un suicide", soutient son compagnon après la nouvelle découverte d'ossements

The car of Eric Foray, who disappeared in the Drôme on 16 September 2016, was found in a mountainous area of the Vercors next to human remains. The victim's companion hopes that these findings will breathe new life into the investigation.

A car, human remains and belongings of Eric Foray. More than six years after the disappearance of the forty-something in the Drôme, the investigations seem to be taking a new turn. The investigators have uncovered new evidence, including the victim's heavily damaged car, discovered below a mountain road in the Vercors.

The events seem to be accelerating a few months after the discovery of a skull "identified as that of Eric Foray", the Valence prosecutor announced on Thursday 6 April.

"Even with the discovery of the skull, I had still hope that it was a mistake and that Eric was alive. Now, I am obliged to accept the evidence since his clothes have been found. It's definitely him. Everything is falling apart," his partner François-Régis Pique tells us.

He has never lost hope or given up over the years, despite facing an impossible mourning. And finally, the first answers that lead to other questions. "Why was the skull found in August and the rest of the remains only now? Where was the skull in relation to the car? There are lots of questions," he adds, hoping to see "finally" the investigation move forward.

"I'm hoping for answers, to be told exactly what happened and to get Eric back. I know it won't happen overnight, but I hope to have a place to gather my thoughts, that he rests in peace. And to know," François-Régis Pique muses. He has imagined a multitude of scenarios. "Everything goes through our heads when we don't know anything. It's frightening. I hope he didn't suffer, that's all."

Only the criminal theory seems to raise no doubt for Eric Foray's companion, "convinced that it was neither an accident nor a suicide". "I knew very well how much we loved each other, how much we were united. We had many plans. Suicide is impossible. You don't go to the supermarket to get a steak and then kill yourself. Something happened, but what?" The possibility that it was an accident seems just as unlikely to him.

Eric Foray, 47, left the couple's home on 16 September 2016, in the middle of the day, to go shopping in Chatuzange-le-Goubet (Drôme), not far from Romans-sur-Isère. Surveillance videos show him in a supermarket and at the bakery. The last images of him alive. The 47-year-old then set off on a winding road in the Vercors, about ten kilometres from his home, but in the opposite direction.

"I don't see what he could have been doing there at that time of day (...) It's not the direction home at all," François-Régis Pique says. "As far as I am concerned," he imagines "someone hurt him and pushed the car into a ravine. But we can hardly make any assumptions since we don't know where the car was found."

This conviction is shared by his lawyer, Bernard Boulloud, who welcomes a "significant advance in the investigations" after the discovery of the skull at the end of August 2022 by a hiker. [*] The analysis of the bones found will make it possible to determine whether they are indeed those of Eric Foray. And the "various effects" discovered by the investigators could provide new leads.

"The vehicle is likely to talk, this will allow us to move towards an accident or a homicide, which we think is the case. DNA traces could attest to the presence of a third party. (...) If someone took him away by force, it is possible that we will find his trace on a door,", the Grenoble lawyer confirms.

In 2018, calls for witnesses had been launched by investigators to detect a possible involvement of Nordahl Lelandais in two disturbing disappearances that occurred in the Drome, including that of Eric Foray. But nothing has corroborated the possibility of Lelandais.

There are still doubts, on the side of the civil parties, about the course of the investigations. Since 31 August, the day the skull was discovered, and until January, nothing has been done by the investigators," Mr Boulloud says. "I find it very curious, even worrying, that it has taken so long to find Eric Foray's vehicle."

He also says he is "very upset" about the communication surrounding the progress of the investigation, saying he was not kept informed of anything until the beginning of the year. "I just ask that justice moves and that it keeps us informed. Often they even warn the media before us. They don't realise how much we can suffer," confirms his client, who remains hopeful that the perpetrators will be identified.

"We didn't have any enemies, I don't understand it," laments François-Régis Pique laments. He describes Eric Foray as the "ideal husband". "He was generous, he invested a lot, he was gentle. I can't see any fault in him."

The investigations were entrusted to the cold-case group of the Grenoble Investigation Section, supported by the Drôme Gendarmerie, and the technical expertise to the Criminal Research Institute of the Gendarmerie Nationale (IRCGN). The investigation into kidnapping and sequestration followed by murder is continuing "without ruling out any hypothesis, criminal or accidental", the Valence prosecutor's office insists.


BBM

[*] Other sources state that the cranium was found by forestry workers (loggers).


I would not exclude the possiblity of an accident. EF went shopping because there was no food at home, so probably he had not eaten for a while. If his levels of blood sugar were low, he may have become confused, without being aware that this was the case. Took a wrong turn and drove on in the wrong direction, and kept going. Ended in a forest road and kept on driving, off a cliff into the woods.

Self-harm: similar scenario. Takes a different turn on impulse and keeps driving.

Both scenarios have one big advantage over that of a criminal act, namely how did the perpetrator return after the crime? In case of a car jacking, it is likely that there are more perps. One can pick up the other. In case of a murder, not so much. The only two options of stopping EF that I can think of are a perp posing as a hiker hitching a ride, or a cyclist with a 'damaged' bike. EF tells them to hop in the car, with the bike in the back, and from there everything goes wrong, for him. The hiker or the cyclist do not look out of place in the mountains at all.

I wonder if they found his phone with the remains. The phone would have pinged late at night in Romans-sur-Isère.
 
Cold cases isérois : deux familles demandent à changer de juge d'instruction

Cold cases in the Isère: two families demand a replacement of investigating judge

Nicolas Suppo and Malik Boutvillain disappeared in Échirolles (Isère), without a trace, in 2010 and 2012 respectively. Their families are now demanding that new investigating judges be appointed to revive these two Isère cold cases. They refuse the dismissal of the case.

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The parents of Nicolas Suppo, who disappeared at the age of 30, from his workplace, in September 2010, in Échirolles, during his lunch break, and the sister and mother of Malik Boutvillain, who disappeared in 2012, at the age of 32, in Échirolles, while jogging, are outraged.

The Ariane cell, created after the Lelandais affair, had put some light on these two cases, but it is once again a dead end for the families who feel that the investigating judges in charge of their cases are not doing their job.
With their lawyer, Maitre Boulloud, they have therefore applied to the Investigating Chamber of the Grenoble Court of Appeal, to request the removal of the two magistrates.


Maitre Boulloud believes that these two Isère cold cases are the work of a justice system that has not done its job. "Like most cold cases, these are cases that started badly. The prosecutor and the judge didn't do what they should have done. If Nicolas and Malik were killed by someone, that person can only be satisfied with the inaction of justice, because he will owe his freedom to a certain judge who is not interested in this kind of case."

Maitre Boulloud would like a single Grenoble magistrate to be in charge of all the disappearance cases, of which there are many in the region, and the investigation entrusted to the specialised gendarmes of the Grenoble Investigative Section, and not necessarily to the Nanterre centre. He brought the two families together in his office so that they could express their despair.

Badra, the mother of Malik Boutvillain, embraces the photo of her son, who haunts her days and nights. "It's only pain, obsession, the impression for years of being in front of a wall, justice, deaf to our demands. From the start, in any case, our case was not taken seriously and so it goes on. They tell me to mourn Malik, but it's impossible!

Malik's sister Dalila continues: "There is something very, very heavy in Malik's file, just read it, there are investigations to be done and the judge does nothing. She says that this is not necessary to establish the truth to justify a dismissal. But what does she know? Let's give Malik's file to a judge who wants to do his job. If this was their child, they would do everything to find him.

The Grenoble public prosecutor dismissed the case against Malik. The family has appealed this decision to the Chambre de l'Instruction. The Boutvillain family will also appeal to the Superior Council of the Magistracy. "Because the incompetence of these magistrates must be sanctioned," Dalila explains.

Janine Suppo has been a mother of three children for 13 years, and is missing one, her youngest, Nicolas. "Since the beginning, nothing has been done to find Nicolas, to find out what happened to him. Thirteen years we've been waiting and we can't close any doors. Has he been killed? Is he still alive? In a modern country like France, they are unable to tell us what has become of our son," she says indignantly as her voice breaks.

Nicolas's father, Yves, is revolted by his son's empty file. "Justice doesn't consider us, my son is just a file number. They're probably waiting for us to get bored. We have already waited so long! But we won't give up! I had a different idea of justice in my country." With their lawyer, Nicolas Suppo's parents have also applied to the investigating judge's office to request the appointment of another investigating judge to relaunch the investigation.


BBM

Was looking for updates about Éric Foray, and stumbled upon this update about other disappearances on the Ariane list. Nicolas Suppo and Malik Boutvillain would have been on the Ariane-list, but the outcome is unknown. If there was a link with NL, we probably would have heard about it.

Found a report with a discussion about Nicolas Suppo's disappearance possibly being a suicide, something the parents do not believe, but it is behind a paywall and you have to register as a subscriber.
 
Can't read the report because it is subscription only, but here's the introduction:

Piste Nordahl Lelandais, suicide d'un suspect... Qu'est-il arrivé à Éric Foray, disparu en 2016 ?


Six and a half years after his disappearance in 2016, the gendarmes recently found Eric Foray's crashed car in a steep area of the Vercors. In 2018, a first suspect hanged himself just before his questioning by the gendarmes... Another suspect lived at the time in the village where the vehicle has now been found. The murder investigation has been revived.

BBM


IMO they probably mean POI instead of suspect? But even the existence of POI's by any name (and in 2018!) is a revelation. Hoping for more news soon!
 
Régis Pique has posted pictures of the report in Marianne on the FB page of Eric Foray.
(FB urges me to make an account and that message covers the lower part of the pictures. Thank you for never giving up on me, FB! How I wish you would..)

What I can read:

Régis Pique was investigated in relation to the disappearance of his partner Eric Foray.

In 2018, the Police also investigated who had been at the SuperU together with EF.
This was difficult: CCTV had been wiped long ago and mobile phone records were no longer available. Yet they found out that the client before EF was a certain Alexis G. When they wanted to speak to him, they discovered that he had hanged himself on September 12, 2018, 2 years almost to the day of EF's disappearance.
Alexis G. was under investigation for domestic violence. His wife said he was depressed and did not leave his room. On his computer LE found child por_nography.

A friend of Alexis G. was Vincent J. They used to drink together in the parking lot of the SuperU on fridays after work. Vincent J. lived in Barbières, a village next to the Vercors Mountains. He denies an amourous relationship with Alexis G. He claims to know nothing of his interest in indecent images of children. Vincent J. allegedly used to hitch hike from the SuperU to his home.

That is were things stand (and have been standing for quite a while now IMO.)

The car of EF and RP was transported on April 13, probably to the IRCGN in Pontoise for meticulous investigation.
 

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