ID - DeOrr Kunz Jr, 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #21
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Sarcasm tag.
Thanks....sorry it that was a dumb question
Not really a dumb question, it's just web shorthand. Sometimes you can just google and find the meaning of tags through urban dictionary.
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Thanks....sorry it that was a dumb question
Don't feel bad, I thought it was 'search and rescue capability"!
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Thanks....sorry it that was a dumb question
Haha, don't feel dumb. I was trying to figure it out as Search And Rescue something.
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No wonder I don't remember it. Is there an approximate time JM and VDK left the store?
ETA: Did JM and VDK say they arrived back from Leadore at 1:30 PM?
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No, we don't have an approximate time. The only new timeline point we have is Sheriff B said IR thought the parents got back to the campsite about 1pm. Any other timeline point is speculation only. It doesn't even merit discussion at this time. imo It really helps to read the media thread if you need background info.
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I didn't sense the sarcasm in the original post. I completely agree. 😊
The sarcasm is that I really am not confused, just pointing out "sarcastically/cynically" that it must be another fib that they had searched high and low for Deorr but didn't come across someone camping that close to them.
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Hmmm, very very good point. That never occurred to me. If the couple told LE that they never saw the parents searching, that would be more evidence that the parents are lying about what happened. If they really searched for DeOrr by themselves before LE got there, they would have definitely come across the other campers, spoken to them and told them about DeOrr being missing.
To be fair though, do we know for sure that that *didn't* happen? did SB definitely say that the other campers never met the parents before LE arrived? I remember he said they never saw DeOrr but I'm not so sure about the parents...
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Doing some research on the behavior of the parents of missing children and I found a very thorough case management guide. The following quote caught my attention:
As shown by Table 23, the polygraph was used 53 percent of the time to test
acquaintances of the victim, and 41 percent involved testing family members of
the victim. However, in 17 percent of the cases in which the polygraph was used,
an innocent person showed "deception" on the test. Interestingly, of those
innocent persons who showed "deception", 64 percent were family or friends of
the victim, the two groups most often polygraphed.
Table 23
Relationship To Victim Of Persons Pol~eraphed
Acquaintances of Victim 53%
Victim's Family Members 41%
Strangers 39%
Neighbors of Victim 14%
When two additional facts are considered, the polygraph issue becomes a
little more clouded: 1) The younger the victim, the less likelihood of the
polygraph being perceived by police as helping the investigation; and 2) The
younger the victim, the more likely the familylfriends of the victim will be polygraphed.
Just sharing this in case anybody finds its interesting or useful.
Here is the link:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/pr/201316.pdf
As shown by Table 23, the polygraph was used 53 percent of the time to test
acquaintances of the victim, and 41 percent involved testing family members of
the victim. However, in 17 percent of the cases in which the polygraph was used,
an innocent person showed "deception" on the test. Interestingly, of those
innocent persons who showed "deception", 64 percent were family or friends of
the victim, the two groups most often polygraphed.
Table 23
Relationship To Victim Of Persons Pol~eraphed
Acquaintances of Victim 53%
Victim's Family Members 41%
Strangers 39%
Neighbors of Victim 14%
When two additional facts are considered, the polygraph issue becomes a
little more clouded: 1) The younger the victim, the less likelihood of the
polygraph being perceived by police as helping the investigation; and 2) The
younger the victim, the more likely the familylfriends of the victim will be polygraphed.
Just sharing this in case anybody finds its interesting or useful.
Here is the link:
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/pr/201316.pdf
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