IL - Christian, 9, & Grace Vasilev, 3, stabbed to death, 27 April 2005 *Insanity*

[Jules]

"Going to" and "penatrating" are two different things. As Jeana said, going to the bone on an arm doesn't take much. In fact, many "superficial" cuts could do that. Darlie was a small person.

 

[dasgal]

Just wondering why you side stepped my post Robert.:angel:

 

[dasgal]

"Going to" and "penatrating" are two different things. As Jeana said, going to the bone on an arm doesn't take much. In fact, many "superficial" cuts could do that. Darlie was a small person.

Absolutely Jules.

 

[dasgal]

Susan Smith was a chronic alcoholic carrying on three affairs at the same time. Diane Downs had a sick obsession with a guy in Arizona.

Show me anything even remotely similar in Darlie's background.


RstJ

As DP pointed out she was narcisistic, had a "sick" obsession with herself, and a little bit of coke in the house. Not to mention being a "chronic" overspender

Is that close enough for ya?

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Just wondering why you side stepped my post Robert.:angel:

He doesn't answer questions darlin. I think its because all the answers come back to Darlie and he doesn't wanna go there.

 

[amandab]

Doesn't Darlie have her own forum?

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Doesn't Darlie have her own forum?

Yes. www.fordarlieroutier.org

 

[amandab]

Sorry - I meant a forum here on WS. This thread was originally about 2 other children....

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Sorry - I meant a forum here on WS. This thread was originally about 2 other children....

Oh. Sorry. Yup, this is it!!! I think Dasgal posted that because some people believe that mother's won't do that to their own children.

 

[Mary456]

Because the testimony says, quite clearly, that is *did*

This is Parchman being questioned:


21 Q. Yes. Um-hum. And, did the physician
22 who was there (ER), that you, whose name you can't recall, did
23 he tell you that the one wound was -- did more than just
24 penetrate the skin?

25 A. He said the larger wound on her right
1 forearm went to the bone.
2 Q. Went to the bone?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. That's as far as it could go, I guess,
5 isn't it?
6 A. Well, if you examine that portion of
7 your right forearm, you're virtually over bone.
8 Q. Well, didn't you --
9 A. I'm just saying you don't have to go
10 very far in terms of portions of an inch --
11 Q. Yes.
12 A. -- to get to the bone.




I think that's perfectly clear, don't you? Knife wound to the bone.

RstJ

It's been very clear to me all along, and I'm happy that you understand it now.

I was getting a little worried there with your comments about "Darlie had a deep (3 inches) and into the bone wound on her right arm" and "sunk the knife into her bone", because I know that's not true according to the testimony.

Sometimes it just takes an extra push before the light comes on. Good for you, Robert, you've got it now!

 

[Mary456]

Susan Smith was a chronic alcoholic carrying on three affairs at the same time. Diane Downs had a sick obsession with a guy in Arizona.

Show me anything even remotely similar in Darlie's background.


RstJ

Okay. Darlie was carrying on multiple affairs, too. One with Neiman-Marcus, another with Sachs and, when she was really desperate, Wal Mart. :dance:

 

[cami]

Susan Smith was a chronic alcoholic carrying on three affairs at the same time. Diane Downs had a sick obsession with a guy in Arizona.

Show me anything even remotely similar in Darlie's background.


RstJ

show me a history of the crimes they commited prior to murdering their children. that's what the point was, not their mental states.

 

[IrishMist]

But you could show poor mental state in Darlie...

Youth + being overwhelmed + financial problems + marriage problems + diet pills + post partum depression = poor mental state

 

[Jeana (DP)]

But you could show poor mental state in Darlie...

Youth + being overwhelmed + financial problems + marriage problems + diet pills + post partum depression = poor mental state

Absolutely! Also, she claims to have been sexually abused by her step father. I believe that's also a factor in other mothers who murder their children.

 

[RobertStJames]

Just wondering why you side stepped my post Robert.:angel:

Because you offered nothing new other than your interpretations which are simply not substantiated. Darlie's wounds are defense wounds. There is abundant similarities to literally thousands of other victims who have survived knife assaults. There is not a single case where anyone "self-inflicted" these kinds of wounds in order to cover up a murder. Viz. Diane Downs. If people want to continue imagining that these are *not* defensive wounds, that's their business. But the point is too obvious to even be worth arguing. It belongs in the same category as "Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note."



RstJ

 

[dasgal]

Because you offered nothing new other than your interpretations which are simply not substantiated. Darlie's wounds are defense wounds. There is abundant similarities to literally thousands of other victims who have survived knife assaults. There is not a single case where anyone "self-inflicted" these kinds of wounds in order to cover up a murder. Viz. Diane Downs. If people want to continue imagining that these are *not* defensive wounds, that's their business. But the point is too obvious to even be worth arguing. It belongs in the same category as "Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note."



RstJ

There is abundant similarities to literally thousands of other victims who have survived knife assaults.****rstj

Now you are just sounding ridiculous. How many of these "thousands" of cases have you personally seen. I used to do this for a living Robert so don't bother trying to BS me.

 

[RobertStJames]

There is abundant similarities to literally thousands of other victims who have survived knife assaults.****rstj

Now you are just sounding ridiculous. How many of these "thousands" of cases have you personally seen. I used to do this for a living Robert so don't bother trying to BS me.

You were an ME? A homicide detective? Because those are the kind of specialists who know the difference. Just working in a medical setting doesn't make you an expert. Especially if it's your opinion that the serious, and multiple, injuries suffered by Darlie Routier were self-inflicted.



RstJ

 

[IrishMist]

You were an ME? A homicide detective? Because those are the kind of specialists who know the difference. Just working in a medical setting doesn't make you an expert. Especially if it's your opinion that the serious, and multiple, injuries suffered by Darlie Routier were self-inflicted.



RstJ

I'm curious, RstJ... are you an ME or a homicide detective?

 

[dasgal]

You were an ME? A homicide detective? Because those are the kind of specialists who know the difference. Just working in a medical setting doesn't make you an expert. Especially if it's your opinion that the serious, and multiple, injuries suffered by Darlie Routier were self-inflicted.



RstJ

Yes actually RstJ. I was a Homicide Investigator, a member of Homicide Investigators of Texas, and well involved with this case over the course of 10 years.
Are you ready to side step again?

 

[dasgal]

Dp, can you believe how easily he fell into the trap???? LOL:laugh: