I got to know more before I buy the book. I don't support people who try and profit from the death of a child. I read your response about him losing money on this but I have to be sure first. It makes me feel better you believe in him but it doesn't help he was dismissed by Stan Garnett and Mark Beckner.
James Kolar's New Book Will Blow the Lid off the JonBenet Ramsey Investigation
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I got to know more before I buy the book. I don't support people who try and profit from the death of a child. I read your response about him losing money on this but I have to be sure first. It makes me feel better you believe in him but it doesn't help he was dismissed by Stan Garnett and Mark Beckner.
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Roy, would it help you to know that if you go back and find history about when he first started investigating the case that he was looking at new leads, and stated that most tips/info seemed to point to an intruder?
http://missing87975.yuku.com/topic/3318/UNSOLVED-CHILD-MURDER-JONBENET-PATRICIA-RAMSEY?page=2
"...Kolar is new to the investigation, bringing some 30-years of law enforcement experience. He said he has a fresh perspective. "I'm going into it with an open mind and trying to look at it objectively," Kolar said. "From my perspective, some of the things that have been forwarded to us look worthwhile and should be followed up."
Since taking over five months ago, Kolar has followed up on five new leads.
"This came in the mail today, it's a cassette tape," Kolar said.
He said new tips come in every week. "A couple weeks ago, I received a similar package that contained a handwritten letter as well as a small loom used to make oven mitts with," Kolar said.
Most of the tips point to an intruder he said. He would not say whether the Ramsey Parents are still under the umbrella of suspicion.
"Is there a point you would like to sit down and talk to John and Patsy again formally if not informally," CBS4 asked.
"Sure, and I've made that offer to provide a briefing to the family," Kolar answered.
....It consumes Kolar that the killer is still out there.
"That's why I put in extra time, take material home and read it at night," Kolar said.
Kolar runs the DNA retrieved from JonBenet's underwear through a national database every single week.
He holds out hope against all odds.
"Could be a lead that comes in tomorrow, could be something that's already there," Kolar said. "It's a heavy responsibility. I think, I hope I can do it justice."
Kolar is the chief investigator for the Boulder district attorney. He has a full slate of court cases. That's why he ends up taking the Ramsey investigation material home with him.
Kolar worked for the Boulder Police Department for 17 years.
He left the department in 1993, before JonBenet Ramsey was killed. He became the police chief in Telluride.
Kolar returned to Boulder last year"...
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Tricia;
Do you really think not?
Is it because there are too many people with connections who would never allow it, or maybe because whatever concrete evidence there was has been "disappeared"?
I am going to order the book today, but I just wondered about the arrest thing.
Thanks!
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If a man takes his life savings & writes a book that he knows there is a chance to be sued-tells me he is not out to make a buck-but to get the truth out there!!A lot of people read Steve T's book & LS's books-I did not think ST was trying to make a buck-he was trying to tell JonBenet's story!! LS is a different story!!Also-We would not know the information we know about JB's death if people like ST & JK did not write their books-jmo
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Tricia;
Do you really think not?
Is it because there are too many people with connections who would never allow it, or maybe because whatever concrete evidence there was has been "disappeared"?
I am going to order the book today, but I just wondered about the arrest thing.
Thanks!
It is too convoluted to ever get a conviction. Way too much crap for lack of a better word is associated with this case. It would be a bogged down mess with nothing but experts on both sides arguing.
The fact that a former D.A. "exonerated" the Ramseys ( have you ever heard of a D.A. exonerating persons without the consent of the police?) would make a trial almost impossible.
I would love to see an investigation into the D.A's office. That is something that needs to be done in my opinion after reading this book.
Don't forget to watch the video that's in the article on the Daily Beast.
It shows the cob web and why an intruder could not have come through that window.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/18/new-clues-in-jonbenet-ramsey-murder.html
We are owed the truth. Since the Ramseys pointed their fingers at innocent people in the past we are owed the truth by them.
A lot of the truth is in Jim Kolar's book.
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otg - same wavelength as me - first question I had re: toys in the basement as well.
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I vote all of the above.
No, that is not enough for me yet. The fact that Stan Garnett and Mark Beckner dismiss Mr. Kolar gives me great concern. But I do hope this book forces them to open up and give us more information.
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To me & IMO & I could be wrong-the name of the book is making a joke out of the RN-I don't know if joke is the right word- lol- but its the only word I can think of right now.In other words there was no FF or Kidnapping!
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Read all the details in Foreign Faction - Who Really Kidnapped JonBenet? by A. James Kolar!
Kolar has seen ALL the evidence files in the JonBenet Ramsey case!
Buy the book at -
Ventus Publishing: (for a signed copy)
http://ventuspublishing.com/
Amazon:
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Barnes & Noble:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/for...et-a-james-kolar/1111784300?ean=9780984763207
Kolar has seen ALL the evidence files in the JonBenet Ramsey case!
Buy the book at -
Ventus Publishing: (for a signed copy)
http://ventuspublishing.com/
Amazon:
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Barnes & Noble:
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Please remember Kolar paid for everything. Everything. Publishing, lawyers, designs, everything. And there is a likelihood that he will be sued.
This man is the police chief of Telluride Colorado. He is not some nutcase looking for fame and money.
James Kolar has put his livelihood on the line. What does that tell you?
It tells me that he has a soul and a conscience.
This man is the police chief of Telluride Colorado. He is not some nutcase looking for fame and money.
James Kolar has put his livelihood on the line. What does that tell you?
It tells me that he has a soul and a conscience.
He is still selling a book. And violating an oath that the DA's office and BPD wish he wouldn't do.
Well, I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. But I remember years and years ago discussing the spider web that was unbroken and how the spider species who particularly wove that web would/could not, by nature, have done so due to time of day, temperature, etc.
In other words, an Intruder could not have come through the window without breaking the web and if it had been broken that particular type spider could not have rewoven the web due to amount of time needed to weave it, plus the time of day and temperature. Short version: no one came through that window the night JonBenet died. The conversations are probably archived here.
It probably won't be prosecuted for the same reasons it was never prosecuted... cross-fingerpointing... but this time from the grave.
Don't get me wrong. I bet the book is good.
I am also still the first in line to say Steve Thomas's original statements of who did it and why are just as valid today as they once were. There is no way to ever know the minds and thoughts of anyone or figure out why they write a book. We can only go on what they say. I was just hoping for something new and I am a little underwhelmed with this.
And where does SuperDave's book fit into this picture? Anybody know?
In other words, an Intruder could not have come through the window without breaking the web and if it had been broken that particular type spider could not have rewoven the web due to amount of time needed to weave it, plus the time of day and temperature. Short version: no one came through that window the night JonBenet died. The conversations are probably archived here.
It probably won't be prosecuted for the same reasons it was never prosecuted... cross-fingerpointing... but this time from the grave.
Don't get me wrong. I bet the book is good.
I am also still the first in line to say Steve Thomas's original statements of who did it and why are just as valid today as they once were. There is no way to ever know the minds and thoughts of anyone or figure out why they write a book. We can only go on what they say. I was just hoping for something new and I am a little underwhelmed with this.
And where does SuperDave's book fit into this picture? Anybody know?
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I was hoping to come in here for big news and find new evidence...or something, not a book. After doing google searches all day yesterday it should have dawned on me this might not be a 'bombshell' after all. I really wanted to see some kind of justice for little Jon Benet.
:moo:
Will it be available as an ebook? Amazon said 1-2 weeks for shipping!
Will it be available as an ebook? Amazon said 1-2 weeks for shipping!
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Well, in answer to this concern, it seems that Cynic already did all the research and response to you regarding Mark Beckner's and Stan Garnett's stance on the case as of a couple years ago:
Link to the thread post about this very subject to you by Cynic:
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Per Cynic,
"....The Mark Beckner that you have created bears no resemblance to the real Mark Beckner. As I mentioned before, you are attempting to rewrite history with a fictional cast of your own making.
The fact of the matter is this. Mark Beckner and the BPD were not involved with the investigation of the JonBenet case during the dark reign of Mary Lacy. That is an irrefutable fact and I will present my sources below.
Stan Garnett turned the case over to the BPD in addition to convening an independent task force to review the evidence.
If the BPD, Beckner, and the task force found strong evidence pointing to an intruder and agreed with Lacy’s assertions regarding the infallibility of the DNA evidence, why not keep the Ramseys cleared??? After all, there are a number of people who have been cleared over the years and remain cleared.
You talk about reading between the lines, how about reading between the lines of the un-exoneration of the Ramseys.
There has only been one time period during which the Ramseys were not cleared and it was when the BPD was not in any way connected with the case, the way Lin Wood wanted it, with his puppet in charge.
1996 – 2000: Ramseys not cleared, BPD in charge
2001 – 2008: Ramseys cleared unofficially early on, then officially in 2008. BPD not in charge.
2009 – present: Ramseys not cleared, BPD in charge.
July 9, 2008 - Police chief issues statement regarding JonBenet Ramsey case
www.boulder-police.com
Police chief issues statement regarding JonBenet Ramsey case
The Boulder Police Department is issuing the following statement from Chief Mark Beckner in relation to the JonBenet Ramsey case:
"The discovery of additional matching DNA in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case is important information that raises more questions in the search for JonBenet's killer. The Boulder Police Department concurs with the Boulder District Attorney's Office that this is a significant finding. The police department has continued to look diligently for the source of the foreign DNA, and to date, we have compared DNA samples taken from more than 200 people. Finding the source of the DNA is key to helping us determine who killed JonBenet. We remain committed to bringing JonBenet's killer to justice. That is, and always will be, our goal.
The investigation of this case has been under the direction of the DA's office for a number of years now and it would be inappropriate for us to discuss the details of this case publicly. We will, of course, continue to assist the DA's office in any way that we can, and we are hopeful that this new development will lead to the identification and successful prosecution of this child's killer.
We will be issuing no further statements at this time."
http://www.bouldercolorado.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9532&Ite mid=2934
A little history helps set the stage for the above comment.
The Boulder PD was excluded from active investigation of the case, by Lacy, who was an IDI proponent and terrified of Lin Wood.
"John and Patsy Ramsey have asked the Boulder County district attorney to find another police agency to investigate fresh leads into their daughter JonBenet's Christmas 1996 slaying."
"If that doesn't happen, the Ramseys may sue to force the Boulder Police Department to turn its case over to another agency, L. Lin Wood, the family's attorney, said Monday."
Daily Camera, Matt Sebastian, October 29, 2002
And
"Wood said he expects to file a civil lawsuit against the Boulder Police Department by the end of the year seeking compensatory damages for the Ramseys, and possibly seeking to transfer the investigation to another law enforcement agency."
Daily Camera,Katherine Vogt (Associated Press) November 20, 2002
One month later…
Based on the above and after consultation with Chief Beckner, I have made a decision to conduct further investigation from within my office, using our investigative resources.
Mary Keenan, Letter to Lin Wood, December 20, 2002
Lin Wood: There's no doubt in my mind, because I met with Mary Keenan before she took this case over in December. I've met with her since then. I know what she has said. I know the actions she has taken, and it's very clear that the days of the criminal investigation of John and Patsy Ramsey are over.
Larry King Live, July 11, 2003
Lin Wood: "Well, I think the timing of the decision on Friday may have been affected by my letter. I did write Mary Keenan. I've been trying for over three and a half years as the attorney for John and Patsy Ramsey to get this case out of the hands of the Boulder Police Department
NBC Today Show, Katie Couric interview with Lin Wood, Dec 23, 2002
The fact that the BPD would no longer be involved in the investigation of the JonBenet case is echoed in the following press release from Beckner:
Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner today announced that the JonBenet Ramsey investigation will be taking a new direction. Boulder County District Attorney Mary Keenan and Chief Beckner have agreed that the District Attorney will follow-up on new leads and information in the case. This will involve the assignment of DA investigators who have not previously worked on the Ramsey case. This is an investigative strategy that has been discussed in the District Attorney’s Office and the Police Department for several weeks.
"The primary reason for this change is an attempt to further the investigation in a positive manner," said Chief Beckner. "The interests of the Boulder Police Department have always been to do what is in the best interests of the investigation. This is a strategy to address concerns expressed by the Ramseys and their attorney that the Boulder Police Department is not following up additional leads. This may provide the Ramseys and their attorney greater comfort in forwarding what they believe is new information or leads that need to be investigated."
http://www.bouldercolorado.gov/index...=3623&Itemid=0
"Keenan didn't tell Boulder residents of her decision to take an active role in the case, but she did tell Ramsey attorney Wood. In a letter to him, she said the Boulder police investigation of the Ramseys had been "exhaustive and thorough," that she would proceed without any further investigation by police, using her department's own investigators, that she would focus on new leads or leads not previously investigated, that she would work "cooperatively" with retired detective Smit who is the prime advocate of the intruder theory, that she would make "every effort to communicate openly with you," and that she would not go to the press to publicize her decision."
ROCKY MOUNTAIN NEWS Publish date: June 13, 2003:
The Boulder district attorney's office is devoting 70 to 100 hours a week to the JonBenet Ramsey case, a commitment that could increase with the recent hiring of an investigator.
District Attorney Mary Keenan listed five people who have worked on the case to varying degrees since her office took jurisdiction of the investigation from the Boulder Police Department late last year.
Personnel include a full-time investigator, an assistant district attorney, a computer-savvy investigator just finishing his trip through police academy, retired Colorado Springs homicide detective Lou Smit and Keenan
John Mark Karr was detained in Bangkok, Thailand, on August 16, 2006
On August 28, 2006, the Boulder County District Attorney's Office announced the charges against Karr were dropped.
"The DNA could be an artifact," Lacy said in August. "It isn't necessarily the killer's. There's a probability that it's the killer's. But it could be something else."
…
"Where you have DNA, particularly where it's found in this case, prosecuting another (suspect) that doesn't match that DNA is highly problematic," she said. "It's not impossible, but it's highly problematic - and it doesn't make any difference who it is.
Mary Lacy Press Conference Re: John Mark Karr – August 29, 2006
(Rocky Mountain News, December 23, 2006)
The best-case scenario for prosecutors would be slam-dunk DNA evidence linking John Mark Karr to the battered and strangled body of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey.
Without it, experts say, it's still possible — but much more difficult — to build a strong murder case against the 41-year-old teacher who has said he was there when the girl died 10 years ago but stopped short of an outright confession
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...#ixzz1LMaRzKHr
DNA swiped from John Mark Karr after his arrest last week in connection with the JonBenet Ramsey murder might be irrelevant, in part because "something got screwed up" when samples were taken from the crime scene in 1996, a former investigator on the case said.
Bill Wise, former first assistant with the Boulder County District Attorney's Office, said that although DNA "absolutely could be one of the biggest things in the case," it could also be nothing.
Some of the DNA taken from the 6-year-old pageant queen's fingernails and underwear was "degraded," Wise said. He said the tool used to take samples wasn't clean.
"It had foreign DNA on it," he said.
Daily Camera, 08/22/2006
July 9, 2008
Lacy exonerates the Ramseys:
Mr. John Ramsey,
As you are aware, since December 2002, the Boulder District Attorney's Office has been the agency responsible for the investigation of the homicide of your daughter…
…
Despite substantial efforts over the years to identify the source of this DNA, there is no innocent explanation for its incriminating presence
Later that same day…
July 9, 2008 - Police chief issues statement regarding JonBenet Ramsey case
The Boulder Police Department is issuing the following statement from Chief Mark Beckner in relation to the JonBenet Ramsey case:
"The discovery of additional matching DNA in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case is important information that raises more questions in the search for JonBenet's killer. The Boulder Police Department concurs with the Boulder District Attorney's Office that this is a significant finding. The police department has continued to look diligently for the source of the foreign DNA, and to date, we have compared DNA samples taken from more than 200 people. Finding the source of the DNA is key to helping us determine who killed JonBenet. We remain committed to bringing JonBenet's killer to justice. That is, and always will be, our goal.
The investigation of this case has been under the direction of the DA's office for a number of years now and it would be inappropriate for us to discuss the details of this case publicly. We will, of course, continue to assist the DA's office in any way that we can, and we are hopeful that this new development will lead to the identification and successful prosecution of this child's killer.
As Lacy’s term in office drew to a close Alex Hunter had this to say:
Hunter said the case is most likely to be solved if it's sent back to the Boulder Police Department, which handed over the investigation in 2002 to Hunter's successor, District Attorney Mary Lacy.
Hunter said he's not sure police Chief Mark Beckner wants the case, but he said that department is better equipped to solve it because there's a better chance of continuity in its leadership. The DA's position is an elected one, and term limits will force Lacy out of office in 2008.
The police also have a better relationship with the FBI, Hunter said.
Lacy disagreed with the need for a change and defended the investigation led by her office, which will have a team of six investigators by next year.
"I think all of law enforcement would say Tom Bennett is top-notch," Lacy said of her lead investigator.
Beckner couldn't be reached for comment.
By Vanessa Miller, Daily Camera Staff Writer
Saturday, December 23, 2006
More from Alex Hunter…
At the same time, however, he was critical of several decisions made in the case over the years, including some of those of his successor, Boulder District Attorney Mary Lacy.
It's wrong, Hunter said, for the investigation to remain under her authority, as it has since it was transferred to her office from Boulder police in December 2002.
"I don't think anything like that has ever happened, such a transfer," said Hunter. "It may have been a highlight in (Boulder Police Chief Mark) Beckner's whole career to be able to say goodbye to this, outside the door. You know, 'Here, Mary, it's yours.' But I think it's unfortunate for a couple of reasons."
For one, Hunter, said, district attorneys' offices are typically not equipped as fully functioning investigative agencies, with all the contacts, relationships and resources of a police department.
"Another question is . . . what happens when Mary Lacy leaves" when her last term expires in January 2009?
"Then, does it stay there? No, it needs to come back to the Boulder Police Department sooner or later, in my opinion," Hunter said.
Hunter admitted, however, "I'm not sure Beckner wants it back - or whoever his successor might be. But that's where it should be."
Unlike his predecessor, Mary Lacy, who has made clear her view that an intruder killed JonBenet, Garnett said he doesn’t have any preconceived notions about the case or where any future investigation should lead.
“District attorneys have to be very thoughtful and very sober and clear-eyed,” Garnett said. “I have very high regard for Mary Lacy, and I’m not a person who second guesses other people’s decisions. But I’ve been elected by the people of Boulder County to use my own judgment.”
JonBenet Ramsey: 12 years later, Cold case gets fresh look
Daily Camera, Heath Urie, December 26, 2008
7 months later, at a news conference, Beckner had the chance to personally rubber stamp the Ramsey exoneration that ML granted, but did not.
Reporter: Mary Lacy cleared the Ramseys in this case, are they still cleared?
Beckner: Again, in keeping our focus on where we go from here, I don’t want to answer that question for a couple of reasons.
One, we are bringing in people on this task force that are going to have a fresh perspective, they are people who have never worked on this case, who are well known in the law enforcement and the district attorney field who can come in and look at this case, lay out the evidence on the table and tell us what they think, challenge us, ask us questions, give us ideas.
I think, to say anything, I would have to get into the evidence, and I don’t want to do that.
And secondly, I don’t want to set any expectations or biases for people coming into this committee.
If the police chief stands here and says, I think this, or, I think that, they may come in with some bias, we don’t want that, we want them to tell us what they think.
Press conference, February 2, 2009
He did not say, yes, the Ramseys are cleared, and we are bringing in a task force to investigate the intruder theory, did he?
Why not? The DNA is such compelling evidence, right?
"Understand there are six years of information that we're not fully aware of when the case has been with the district attorney's office. That's stuff we need to get caught up on," Beckner said during the news conference.
In response to a question about previous problems between two entities, Beckner said he did not think that would be an issue.
"We're looking now toward the future and we're focused on: what are the next steps?" said Beckner. "I think we see eye to eye on where this case needs to go, what steps need to take place, so I think you're going to see a strong working team."
There’s no question, whatsoever, that Beckner was not involved in any meaningful way in Mary Lacy’s 8 year long dog and pony show. To say otherwise is baseless speculation.
For Immediate Release
Feb. 2,2009
Public Information Officer
Boulder Police Department
Police reactivate Ramsey case, appoint advisory multi-agency task force
The Boulder Police Department is reactivating its investigation into the JonBenet Ramsey homicide, effective immediately. This action was taken in consultation and agreement with newly elected Boulder County District Attorney Stan Garnett.
This unsolved homicide is going into its 13th year. The department plans to approach it as a cold case and has invited veteran investigators from a variety of state and federal agencies to participate in an advisory task force. The group will meet in the upcoming weeks to assist Boulder investigators to review all the evidence in the case, help to identify any additional testing that might be done and explore all possible theories about what happened the night JonBenet was killed. Detectives with the Boulder Police Department will perform all follow-up investigative work while maintaining their regular caseloads.
While the list of participants in the advisory task force is still being finalized, the following agencies have agreed to send one or more representatives:
• Colorado Bureau of Investigation
• Federal Bureau of Investigation
• Boulder District Attorney's Office
• Telluride Police Department
• Boulder County Sheriff s Office
• Jefferson County Sheriffs Office
• Attorney General's Office
• Denver District Attorney's Office
• Denver Police Department
Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner and the district attorney are in agreement that a traditional law enforcement/prosecution relationship is appropriate in this and other cold cases. Police resources will be used to investigate the crime. The district attorney's office will prosecute any suspect or suspects, if the evidence is deemed sufficient.
"After more than 12 years, the bottom line is that we still have an unsolved homicide," Chief Beckner said. "This effort will be focused on reviewing the case and evidence from beginning to end in the hope that we will come up with new ideas on efforts that could lead to additional evidence. We are doing this for JonBenet."
The department does not plan to give regular updates about the work of this task force, unless there is a significant development or a determination is made that releasing information would be helpful to the ongoing investigation.
http://www.bouldercounty.org/find/li...mseyfeb208.pdf
And then, finally, Stan Garnett said what Mark Beckner didn’t, the Ramseys are no longer exonerated.
This statement was made nearly two years after the task force to review the evidence was convened. Obviously the DNA evidence is not nearly as impressive as Lacy would have us believe or the task force would have reported as much, and the Ramseys would have remained cleared.
On a Denver radio show, KHOW’s Dan Caplis and Craig Silverman interviewed Boulder DA, Stan Garnett.
Dan Caplis: And Stan, so it would be fair to say then that Mary Lacy’s clearing of the Ramseys is no longer in effect, you’re not bound by that, you’re just going to follow the evidence wherever it leads.
Stan Garnett: What I’ve always said about Mary Lacy’s exoneration is that it speaks for itself. I’ve made it clear that any decisions made going forward about the Ramsey case will be made based off of evidence…
Dan Caplis: Stan, when you say that the exoneration speaks for itself, are you saying that it’s Mary Lacy taking action, and that action doesn’t have any particular legally binding effect, it may cause complications if there is ever a prosecution of a Ramsey down the road, but it doesn’t have a legally binding effect on you, is that accurate?
Stan Garnett: "That is accurate, I think that is what most of the press related about the exoneration at the time that it was issued".…
Craig Silverman: I’d say the headline out of our show is once again you established out of your questioning of Stan Garnett that that letter (of exoneration) isn’t worth the paper it’s written on as far as Stan Garnett is concerned.
"The Ramseys are no longer cleared according to Stan Garnett"
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