GUILTY PA - Holly Grim, 41, Wescosville, 22 Nov 2013 #1 *Arrest*

[Trackergd]

That is what I first saw on fb when I followed this story. Someone commented on her missing page about the neigh or seeing her struggle with someone. ..then all of a sudden that story disappeared....just what I saw originally so rumor since on fb i guess

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If I remember correctly, the neighbor is deaf. I will try and confirm one way or the other about the struggle.

 

[Saphyrrra]

I can look back and see what someone said. I'm pretty sure someone commented on how someone saw a struggle and they should come forward about it or something along those lines. I hope they find something soon. Sad I've seen a few discovered bodies in the news today and holly isn't one of them. Wishing them closure one way or another.

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[heartgoesout]

You are not mistaken. There was a comment I think on one of the online news sites where someone said with kind of an attitude that the women who saw Holly being dragged across the lawn needs to speak up. The women responded back that she never saw anything and that she didn't even know what she was talking about. I remember the names if anyone wants to inbox me. I'm not sure if this was referring to that day or another day. As trackergd has mentioned before, there was a person that was questioned by the police and is no longer part of any insider information. So that comment could have been an attempt to throw off police??

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

That did not come up in discussion with family and friends. I have not seen or heard anything about anyone witnessing Holly in a struggle with anyone.

Thank you, Trackergd and WSers! :seeya:

 

[Saphyrrra]

Thanks! I remember the initial comment but not a reply to it.

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[KJ's Mamu]

Another recovery..."remains" this time...

http://wnep.com/2014/04/20/man-working-outside-found-body-in-pond/

1 hour and 23 minutes north of Lower Macungie, Pa

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=...DFiTEP3OhRbxrIrg&oq=Ransom+Tow&mra=ls&t=m&z=9

 

[Houston Mom]

Another recovery..."remains" this time...

http://wnep.com/2014/04/20/man-working-outside-found-body-in-pond/

1 hour and 23 minutes north of Lower Macungie, Pa

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=...DFiTEP3OhRbxrIrg&oq=Ransom+Tow&mra=ls&t=m&z=9

"The coroner in Lackawanna County said it’s possible the body was there for months"

 

[zwiebel]

Re: Zwiebel's inquiry about Ashley Kline;

Ashley left her home in Berks County, but was found deceased at

Middle Creek Wildlife Preserve, in nearby Lancaster County.

Further West in Lebanon County, Kortne Stouffer continues to be missing.

We have a Thread for Ashley under Currently Awaiting Trial:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230701&page=18

Kortne's Thread is under Missing Forum Discussion:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202960&page=29

May We All Find Prompt Answers.

Thank you. I was getting my counties mixed up.

 

[zwiebel]

"The coroner in Lackawanna County said it’s possible the body was there for months"

There is advanced decomposition but the body is fully clothed and no obvious signs of injuries of trauma. Post mortem tomorrow.

I am wondering if there are any missing seniors with dementia or Alzheimer's locally. I have seen a few cases where they have become confused and stumbled into ponds, whereas a pond on private property seems a little risky for a criminal to dispose of a body.....

http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/body-found-in-ransom-pond-1.1671409

 

[KJ's Mamu]

Link to missing females in PA

http://pennsylvaniamissing.com/females2010to2019.html

 

[Richrd]

Link to missing females in PA

http://pennsylvaniamissing.com/females2010to2019.html

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/search
*
23495 Qin, Qi 01/05/2014 Pittsburgh, PA Female Asian or Pacific Islander 24
22753 Grim, Holly A. 11/22/2013 Wescosville, PA Female White 41
20481 Rodriguez, Melissa 04/19/2013 Collingdale, PA Female White 31
17655 McMullin, Erica S. 09/30/2012 Philadelphia, PA Female White 21
17800 Stouffer, Kortne C. 07/29/2012 Palmyra , PA Female White 21
17644 Barron Madriaga, Jasmine 07/03/2012 Philadelphia, PA Female Asian or Pacific Islander 15
15037 Alvarado, Franchesca 03/13/2012 Philadelphia, PA Female Other 22
14325 Angel, Joann 12/17/2011 Etna Borough, PA Female White 51
12519 Peterson, Jamie N. 09/26/2011 Pittsburgh, PA Female White 30
10268 Kail, Alivia C. 03/04/2011 West Mifflin, PA Female White 19
11745 Miller, Maria N. 02/04/2011 Towanda, PA Female Asian or Pacific Islander 34
11500 Pugner, Amy L. 06/10/2010 Washington , PA Female White 41
9316 DuPriest, Jeanette 04/01/2010 Philadelphia, PA Female Black/African American 41

*[Although Ruth Mullinex is listed at the beginning of this Official List, she was recently found deceased.]

Let's Help Bring Them Home.

 

[zwiebel]

Diane Zavislak's car was found in Ransom Township and police carried out searches for her there. She has been missing since November 2013, so about 5 months.

PA PA - Diane Zavislak, 56, Kingston Township, 3 Novermber 2013 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[zwiebel]

Diane's car was found parked (keys and purse locked inside) on Upper Narrows Rd, near the Susquehanna River. I wonder if musselman/Beagle rd is within walking distance of there?

ETA, excuse me. I am getting my townships confused. The body in the pond was found in Ransom Twp. The body in the field nr Musselman/Beagle Rd was Bethel Twp.

I wish google maps showed the township lines, as well as the towns.

 

[zwiebel]

I tried to make some maps but `I'm not posting them as I don't trust myself. I think I find PA so confusing because there are so many familiar town names there, for an English person. I think I'm trying to place them on a map of England, in my head or something.

1. A woman's body has been found in a field nr Musselman/Beagle Rds in Bethel Township, Berks Cnty. Pa. Possibly a child/young adult?
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=9509553

2. A woman's body has been found in a pond on private land nr Main St, Ransom Twp, Lackawanna Cnty. Fully clothed, possibly been there months.
http://wnep.com/2014/04/20/man-working-outside-found-body-in-pond/

(Please any PA locals, correct me if I'm wrong about Lakawanna Cnty. I am guessing that's where Ransom Township is located, because that's the LE Dept investigating).

 

[JaimeSommers]

I tried to make some maps but `I'm not posting them as I don't trust myself. I think I find PA so confusing because there are so many familiar town names there, for an English person. I think I'm trying to place them on a map of England, in my head or something.

1. A woman's body has been found in a field nr Musselman/Beagle Rds in Bethel Township, Berks Cnty. Pa. Possibly a child/young adult?
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=9509553

2. A woman's body has been found in a pond on private land nr Main St, Ransom Twp, Lackawanna Cnty. Fully clothed, possibly been there months.
http://wnep.com/2014/04/20/man-working-outside-found-body-in-pond/

(Please any PA locals, correct me if I'm wrong about Lakawanna Cnty. I am guessing that's where Ransom Township is located, because that's the LE Dept investigating).

BBM ... I was born and raised in Lackawanna County and, yes, Ransom Township is part of it.

 

[Houston Mom]

Not too far from New Jersey either, just saying.....

 

[Goose22]

The body in Berks County has been identified as 24 year old Alishia M. Eller.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/in...y_body_alishia_elle.html#incart_river_default

No thread for her on WS that I could find.

 

[Sin]

The body in Berks County has been identified as 24 year old Alishia M. Eller.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/in...y_body_alishia_elle.html#incart_river_default

No thread for her on WS that I could find.

Apparently since the body had only been there a short amount of time, maybe she wasn't reported missing yet. Since they're asking for people who know her to come forward it's likely I suppose.

http://fox43.com/2014/04/20/body-discovered-in-berks-county-idd/

http://republicanherald.com/pine-grove-woman-found-dead-in-berks-county-1.1671751

 

[zwiebel]

I just came across that Goose22. Thanks for updating us all here.

She didn't come up in any of the searches I did for missing people either. Her name is spelt Alichia in this article, but that doesn't look right to me.

http://m.wgal.com/news/body-found-in-field/25564362

 

[zwiebel]

BBM ... I was born and raised in Lackawanna County and, yes, Ransom Township is part of it.

Thank you.