Patsy's Cancer has Spread to her Brain

Seeker said:
Cass, I'm not sure how familiar you are with this case, but Burke was there as was JonBenet the first time Patsy went through chemo and radiation. It's not like Burke hasn't seen her battling this for the past 11 years....

Patsy's birth family is there with her...but her son and husband aren't.
I went through 3 years of brain cancer with my mom. TRUST ME PLEASE when I say that it is NOTHING LIKE regular cancers. I've been around many a family member with various types of cancers. With brain cancer, it would change her behavior, personality. She may yell and say terrible things, get your name wrong, loose bowel control, not know how to eat some days, not be able to walk, talk or anything. These things can come and go for a great deal of time depending on the type of brain cancer and how aggressive it is.

It is a very horrific way to see a loved one die. Going through chemo is one thing.... having your children see you that way - but going through this.... can be permanently damaging on the family left behind.
 
Speaking for myself only ...

I don't want to judge the Ramsey's on their personal life and how they treat each other. I don't live their life,and have no idea why they are making the decisions that they are, concerning Patsy's illness,nor do I want to.

All I care to discuss is the JonBenet murder case. That alone keeps my head spinning ... I don't need to add more.

All I know is,if Patsy is as ill as reported,it's another painful time for that family ... no matter what all our theories of the JB case is.
 
tipper said:
There is only one confirmed affair John had and that was at the end of his first marriage. A nut case came forward but even BPD didn't find her claims credible.

Why is it ok for other couples to not be publically demonstrative but not the
Ramseys?

If you read the statements of Jedamus (sp?) and Morlock in PMPT you'll find John spent time comforting Patsy that morning and the advocates didn't see anything out of the ordinary in their behavior towards each other.
I think both Patsy's and John's behaviour was suspicious that morning. They hardly acted like a couple with a perfect marriage. They both did and said suspicious things in my opinion. John was said to have been nowhere near Patsy that morning, instead choosing to pace up and down in another room.
Apparently at one stage she's said to have screamed at him to get the money..
Who knows who was responsible for Jonbenet's death, but from their secretive, lying behaviour it is in my opinion, a Ramsey who is directly involved. If Patsy and John did indeed cover up for a family member, that doesnt necassarily mean that they didnt disagree on things re; the cover up.
I think they acted very 'separately' that morning.
 
My heart goes out to Patsy and to her family. I don't care WHAT you have done or failed to do in your life - I feel compassion on anyone who suffers - especially from cancer.
I just saw my Gyn. yesterday. I gave him a copy of the pathologists report done on my mother when she was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer.
He shook his head and told me what a horrible, nasty cancer this is.
Believe me - I know! I watched her battle it for six and half long years (the doctor called it "miraculous" that she lived that long - he couldn't believe it).
So my heart and prayers go out to Patsy Ramsey. And her family.
The fact that it has apparently spread to her brain (a common place cancer will metastasize) is a dire prognosis.
Let us all have mercy in our hearts for her and her family. She does afterall have a very young son who will most likely soon be without a mother.
(My son is exactly the same age as Burke and he would be devastated if this were happening to me.)
 
as a non-christian, i don't believe in heaven or hell, so i don't think that Fear should play a part in Patsy's last days (if that is indeed what she is going through)

if she didn't kill her daughter, that's ok, she had good times and bad times (very bad times). It will be all over soon.

if she DID kill jonbenet, well i believe she still should not fear. It's over now. I'm interested in this case because i find it entertaining - i enjoy hearing other people's theories, i am fascinated by the Rams, etc.

But even if Patsy killed JB in cold blood, i believe she should still have nothing to fear. Die in peace.

that's about the most serious post you will ever hear me write. I wish peace to all the Ramseys - Burke, John, Patsy, and the rest. I don't wish peace to JonBenet, because she is dead, and either already AT peace, or no state at all, so to say "i wish peace to JonBenet" in my belief system is silly.

Let's wish peace on this suffering family, no matter what happened.
 
My BIL died of cancer. When he was first diagnosed, he went through the treatment and looked healthy throughout. It was difficult to imagine he was ill at all. When he was given the "all clear" the first time, he went through a period of looking healthier than he had ever been in his life - probably as a result of taking great care with his health etc.

When the cancer came back, he deteriorated to little more than a yellow skeleton and it was awful to see. In the final stages it was in his brain and like BlueClouds relative - he didn't recognise people, hallucinated.... He needed a special bed - one with rippling balloon type sections to stop him getting bedsores and he had nurses tending him on a daily basis at home. So they converted my niece's bedroom into a sickroom for him and she had some posters on her bedroom wall of a pop group. They had to take them down because my BIL was shouting at them to get out of his room (he accused the faces in the poster of doing all sorts of things in the room!).

It was simply horrible. My BIL lingered for a lot longer than anyone expected him to. He was given a couple of weeks to live in the May and he died in the November. All that time he was practically bedridden. He really was like a living skeleton.
 
I'll be back for comment when my Patsy picture is returned.
 
RiverRat said:
I'll be back for comment when my Patsy picture is returned.
What happened to your Patsy pic, Rat?
 
AuntieKaren said:
Poor Patsy. Dying from several different types of cancer and all some people can do is continue to trash her. She didn't kill her baby. She adored JonBenet. She won't confess because she has nothing to confess. May God comfort her at this difficult time.
Karen

Auntie Karen,

With all due respect, we are not trashing Patsy. If she would have told what she knew in the beginning, her life would have been a lot easier. She may not have killed JB, but she knows who did and is covering for them. She didn't adore JB, she lived her dreams through JB, big difference. IMO, the pageants were a form of abuse, and Patsy was too blind to see it. I honestly hope Patsy finds peace, she needs it.

BTW, I know Seeker would never put her family in second place, and she won't do it to a friend. I know, she's been there for me!
 
I think Patsy loved Jonbenet dearly. Alot of parents live their dreams through their children, that doesnt mean they dont love them.
The stress of what happened that night would have taken its toll on Patsy, but thats not why the cancer has returned. The cancer has returned because that is the nature of cancer.
 
narlacat said:
I think Patsy loved Jonbenet dearly. Alot of parents live their dreams through their children, that doesnt mean they dont love them.
The stress of what happened that night would have taken its toll on Patsy, but thats not why the cancer has returned. The cancer has returned because that is the nature of cancer.

Exactly.
Karen
 
I lost my father to brain cancer 2 years ago and he was taking chemo up to 2 days before he passed away. I agree with our other member I also truly believe that brain cancer is one of the worst forms of cancer.
 
WindChime said:
I lost my father to brain cancer 2 years ago and he was taking chemo up to 2 days before he passed away. I agree with our other member I also truly believe that brain cancer is one of the worst forms of cancer.

Windchime, I am so sorry to hear this.

Tricia
 
tipper said:
There was a page that said "Mr. & Mrs l"

That is the practice note.

tipper,

There were also nine missing pages from the notepad that were never found. These pages could have been used to practice the ransom note.

The first 12 pages in the notepad had been used and discarded at an earlier date. Pages 13 through 16 contained various writings by Patsy, such as grocery lists, things to do, etc. Pages 17 through 25 were missing and never found. Page 26 was the aborted "Mr. and Mrs. I". Pages 27, 28, and 29 were the ransom note pages.

Had the nine missing pages been found, and if they had been used as a practice ransom note, they would have likely solved the murder. The position of the nine pages in the pad suggests they had been used by the writer of the ransom note for something related to the ransom note.

BlueCrab
 
Thank you Tricia for you kind words. Specialist at the cancer research at Chicago Univeresity for warned our family that 85% of the time when one developes lung cancer it will return in the brain and that is just what happend. I will always believe that Pasty snapped and killed JB but as you and others have stated I would not wish cancer on anyone no matter how much I disliked a person.
 
BlueCrab said:
tipper,

There were also nine missing pages from the notepad that were never found. These pages could have been used to practice the ransom note.

The first 12 pages in the notepad had been used and discarded at an earlier date. Pages 13 through 16 contained various writings by Patsy, such as grocery lists, things to do, etc. Pages 17 through 25 were missing and never found. Page 26 was the aborted "Mr. and Mrs. I". Pages 27, 28, and 29 were the ransom note pages.

Had the nine missing pages been found, and if they had been used as a practice ransom note, they would have likely solved the murder. The position of the nine pages in the pad suggests they had been used by the writer of the ransom note for something related to the ransom note.


BlueCrab
Very interesting. Is it confirmed that PR's fingerprints were the ones on that notepad?
 
Patsy's prints would probably be on the pad. It was hers and used for various reasons. (Grocery lists, etc.)
 
AuntieKaren said:
With all due respect, we are not trashing Patsy.

I beg to differ.

Well, I beg to differ with you. There are just too many conflicting stories to give them a pass. Not saying she did it, but I think she knows a lot more than she is saying.
 
WindChime said:
I lost my father to brain cancer 2 years ago and he was taking chemo up to 2 days before he passed away. I agree with our other member I also truly believe that brain cancer is one of the worst forms of cancer.

I'm sorry to hear this. I've lost two friends to brain cancer...and it was horrible. One was spared and went quickly, the other lingered for a long time. :(
 

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