SC SC - Paul Baker, 3, Beaufort, 5 March 1987

[Pixie70]

Per this site:

http://www.qpublic.net/cgi-bin/washington_display.cgi?KEY=00000000-00-0146-0008&

the Baker property was sold to SEB on 1/13/95.

 

[elepher50]

Back to basics to find out where SB has lived ... a few places .. click on thumbnail to see list:

Beaufort, SC
Laurel Bay, SC
Defuniak Springs, FL
Chipley, FL

 

[Pixie70]

I wonder is Paul is on the FL property somewhere? I think it should be searched.

When did the Bakers buy the house in FL? How long after Paul went missing? Were they looking at the property when Paul went missing? Is Paul somewhere between SC and FL?

It would be really good to know exactly the last time someone reliable reported seeing Paul.

Salem

Paul went missing in 1987. The FL property was bought by SEB in 1/95.

Regarding the last time Paul was heard from, per this article:

http://www.islandpacket.com/news/local/story/1025171.html

(his grandmother) said she once asked her granddaughter what she heard and saw the day Paul disappeared.

"[SEB] kept hollering at him to lay down and go to sleep," (the grandmother) said Nina told her. "This went on for a few minutes and then -- nothing. Silence."

 

[elepher50]

Back to basics - Beaufort is not listed for JB as having lived there for some reason. See thumbnail for captured list:

De Funiak Springs, FL
Chipley, FL
Defuniak Springs, FL
Laurel Bay, SC

 

[elepher50]

Paul went missing in 1987. The FL property was bought by SEB in 1/95.

Regarding the last time Paul was heard from, per this article:

http://www.islandpacket.com/news/local/story/1025171.html

(his grandmother) said she once asked her granddaughter what she heard and saw the day Paul disappeared.

"[SEB] kept hollering at him to lay down and go to sleep," (the grandmother) said Nina told her. "This went on for a few minutes and then -- nothing. Silence."

Ignore my message ... not thinking clearly obviously and am date stoopid.

 

[elepher50]

Paul went missing in 1987. The FL property was bought by SEB in 1/95.

Regarding the last time Paul was heard from, per this article:

http://www.islandpacket.com/news/local/story/1025171.html

(his grandmother) said she once asked her granddaughter what she heard and saw the day Paul disappeared.

"[SEB] kept hollering at him to lay down and go to sleep," (the grandmother) said Nina told her. "This went on for a few minutes and then -- nothing. Silence."

Sometimes Pixie my elevator does not go quite to the top either .. lol. You are so correct this property was in the possession of SB in 1995 and Paul went missing in 1987.

 

[elepher50]

They were living in DeFuniak Springs in 1995 when the land was purchased.

 

[dreamweaver]

http://npaper-wehaa.com/bluffton-today/2009/11/06/#?article=639659http://npaper-wehaa.com/bluffton-today/2009/11/06/#?article=639659
http://npaper-wehaa.com/bluffton-today/2009/11/06/#?article=639670

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We wanted her to be held accountable,” said Tanner, who had worked as a sheriff’s deputy in the search for 3- year-old Paul Baker in 1987. Duringthatinvestigationstate social workers discovered evidence that Paul’s older sister Nina, then 6, had been abused — including broken bones that had not healed and sores on her body.
Susan Baker was convicted and sentenced to 10 years for assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature on Nina, but she only served 80 days, followed by five years of probation.
“She’s a wicked person,” Tanner said. “That’s as nice as Ican be.”
Tanner said he and criminal investigator Capt. Bob Brom age, another long-time participant in the Baker case, were in Columbia when they learned that Baker was connected to the Florida case of a missing infant.
However, a press release gave directions for how media — including those in Chipley — could access background information on the case.
“No secret is good forever,” Tanner said. “People talk, and they talk at different stages…. We in law enforcement are looking for those opportunities,” Tanner said.
“Some of the cold cases (Capt. Bromage) has solved have been because of mistakes of the defendant. We’re hoping things will develop through things that are going on in Florida that will help us here,” Tanner said.
“There’s nothing that prevents us from bringing charges if Detective Baird comes back with some information that can help,” Stone said.

more....at link...

 

[dreamweaver]

http://www.bcso.net/home.php
Beaufort County Sheriff, SC

http://www.bcso.net/coldcases.php

Beaufort County, SC
http://www.bcso.net/Cold_Cases/baker.htm
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If you have any information concerning Baker's whereabouts, please contact:
Beaufort County Sheriff's Office
Lt. Bob Bromage
843-470-3200
All information may be submitted on an anonymous basis.

NCIC Number:
M-238491459
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case. ​

http://www.bcgov.net/Sheriff/press_release.php?NewsID=749
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Those seeking further information on the case of Paul Baker may submit a Freedom of Information Act request to the Beaufort County Sheriff’s Office via internet (www.bcso.net), as the incident reports up to and including the arrests of Susan and James Baker in June 2006 are available for review and dissemination. Please reference incident report # 870000004528.
Further information may be released as it becomes available.

 

[orb4me]

ack! we dont know if Paul is dead or not. What Nina remembered in above thread about 'then nothing' could easily be her mind blocking out what she saw or heard. There had to have been something going on during the 'nothing' period. watched tv, mom cooked supper, mom went to the store. something.

I wonder if a child was missing from DeFuniac when they were living there. Arrested in 2006? Who are the other people listed as living with SB?
James might no be listed because he was in Marines, and home base would be his home? I dont think thats right, but could be.

James first wife could be a source for a lot of info about what was going on before Paul went missing. Was she allowed to see him? Supervised visits?

How could SB be charged with assult and battery against Paul? or was the charge actually for Nina?

Wouldnt you love to know what the h.... the Judge was thinking? or was he bought off? I wonder if SB is selling children, so she had to money to pay him off? a 10 yr sentence, and only served 80 days and 5 yr probation? did a probation officer ever check on her, or was she required to actually show at the probation office.

JMO as always, but I really think Paul and Shannon are not the only 2 that she has done something with.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.newsherald.com/video/?videoId=48687428001&lineupId=&play=now

very good interview (23 MINUTES) with LE from beufort on the current case and the cold case with Paul. He calls Susan Baker a wicked woman.

 

[nursebeeme]

Brian Baerd (spelling) is on the interview team in Florida and is interviewing SB as to Paul's case as well! This is good news! (took this from the interview I posted above)

 

[Pixie70]

I'm wondering if the police will try to leverage the charges in Shannon's case against SusanB to try and get info about Paul - maybe they can turn JamesB and SusanB on each other (they both have to know what happened to Paul). Maybe even TinaM knows something if Susan took her into her confidence? What a wicked web they all wove.

 

[elepher50]

http://www.newsherald.com/video/?videoId=48687428001&lineupId=&play=now

very good interview (23 MINUTES) with LE from beufort on the current case and the cold case with Paul. He calls Susan Baker a wicked woman.

The best quote that I have heard in a long, long time is on this interview video by one of the SC investigators and he basically said:

"When you are investigating the Devil you have to go to hell for your witnesses".

If LE are plying James to get information about what SB did with Paul, then the Investigators in Chipley, Florida are wading through Hell right now. Let's hope they get information and the Devil stays where the Devil belongs.

 

[southernvagirl]

I am so happy to see the South Carolina LE are involved with this case..Let's pray someone does something or says something to blow the case of poor little Paul Baker wide open....I wonder though, when Paul went missing his sister said she heard things and then everything went silent...Could it have been a situation where the sister, Nina herself could have testified against the "wicked step-mother".....Listening to the detectives on this cold case,,I wish we knew ,what they know about this "wicked woman". I also wonder if the same cedar trunk, she had little Shannon in was used to despose of Paul's body...

 

[southernvagirl]

Little boys do NOT go down for a nap with shoes and a jacket on....

 

[southernvagirl]

It seems evident to me that the SCLE thinks James was in the know and maybe had a hand in his own son missing...Does the Florida LE really believe that he knew nothing of poor little Shannon being in a casket type box under his bed???

 

[elepher50]

I am so happy to see the South Carolina LE are involved with this case..Let's pray someone does something or says something to blow the case of poor little Paul Baker wide open....I wonder though, when Paul went missing his sister said she heard things and then everything went silent...Could it have been a situation where the sister, Nina herself could have testified against the "wicked step-mother".....Listening to the detectives on this cold case,,I wish we knew ,what they know about this "wicked woman". I also wonder if the same cedar trunk, she had little Shannon in was used to despose of Paul's body...

I sure am hoping that they are doing full forensics on that cedar casket ... oops typo ... meant trunk.

 

[elepher50]

This SC public record regarding the charges against SB in 2000 shows a NY from OHRoad in Chipley as the Bond Entity for SB. Does this mean that NY had to actually put up some $ for SB at that time?

It does appear that NY is actually Tab's mother as well.

 

[SuziQ]

Wow, staging, pointing fingers at others. Doesn't THAT sound familiar?

http://www.islandpacket.com/news/local/story/1025171.html

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According to a Gazette article published two days after Paul's disappearance, Susan Baker said she put her stepson down for a nap at about 11 a.m., and then nodded off herself. She told the newspaper that she was awakened by a phone call from James Baker, at the time a sergeant stationed at Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort.
Susan Baker, then 27, said that's when she went to check on Paul and discovered him missing.
James Baker told the newspaper he called his wife between 12:30 and 1:30 p.m. after he was notified by the station's family services that a woman had called claiming that she had Paul and that he was OK. He said he was told the phone call was long distance.
A sheriff's deputy confirmed with family services that a phone call had been made but offered no other details.
James Baker suspected Solorzano made the call and told the Gazette that "I still feel like my ex-wife knows where he is at" in an interview a few weeks after Paul's disappearance. However, authorities here and in North Carolina determined Solorzano was not in South Carolina at the time and had nothing to do with her son's disappearance.
Despite the mysterious phone call, investigators didn't suspect kidnapping.
They suspected foul play.