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Do you have a page number for Q22? or could you tell me which piece of evidence Q22 is since the tables are Greek to me.
Also, if anyone that knows about bugs has time could they pop over into the entomology report thread and answer a couple questions there? TIA
*Respectfully snipped to point.*
Nope, that's wrong. Q240 is the World of Disney bag. Q238 is the bottle. Q238.1 is the liquid from the bottle.
Hang on - lol.
It says that Q238 (the bottle), Q238.2 (the piece of plastic in the bottle), Q239 (the two rolls of cardboard in the bottle), Q240 (the world of disney bag) and Q240.1 the syringe from Q240, were not analyzed. It does not state that Q238.1 (liquid contents of the bottle), or Q240.1.1 (contents of the syringe) weren't analyzed. They were.
I was confused about that as well. page 11519 at this link
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540506.pdf
states that there was indeed a liquid substance in the syringe labeled 240.1.1
If you read a couple of pages up 11515 - 11519 it explains the blue gatorade bottle contained liquid, 2 cardboard rolls, a syringe (which also contained a substance), a piece of possible cotton (cotton and cotton type material is also used for drug abuse/injection)
HTH.
Q240 is the smaller plastic bag that the syringe came packaged in from the manufacturer. It reads "Disposable Syringe Kit, "and is not the world of disney bag.See page 11518 of this link:
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/1106/21540506.pdf
And now I see that Q240.1.1(the liquid) was inside of Q240.1(the syringe) which was inside of Q240(the plastic packaging bag)Exactly. The contents of the syringe were analyzed but not the syringe itsself. That was the confusion.
Also in the LIST of the items they received TO test, it states that Q240.1.1 was INSIDE of Q240 which it was not, it was inside of Q238. AND in the end, the bag, Q240 was also listed as INSIDE the bottle...that was the confusion. :blushing:
Carrie provided the link to show where this was all cleared up. I will go and get it. Be right back.
And then Q240.1.1 is even less than that. I think what this comes down to is that the lab was asked to look for chloroform and they did, and then noted it wherever it was reasonable to do so. Which doesn't mean that ultimately any of this chloroform business in either the Gatorade bottle (and especially the syringe) is anything that anybody on the prosecution side is taking as important.
Since it is stated that after all the items were removed from the gatorade bottle the bottle remained 3/4 of the way full, 1/8 or 1/9 would still seem like a substantial amount...wouldn't it?:waitasec:Agreed. The concentration of chloroform in the syringe was about 1/8 or 1/9 the concentration in the Gatorade bottle. Truly an insignificant amount.
What would you find more suspicious...a cardboard that will absorbe the liquid its contained in and blend in with the rest of the contents or a loose SYRINGE flopping around in a clear bottle???
I guess you haven't' been around drug users too much (good thing) the methods of concealment are not the most ingenious but they tend to not raise suspicions if you don't know what to look for. JMHO
Agreed. The concentration of chloroform in the syringe was about 1/8 or 1/9 the concentration in the Gatorade bottle. Truly an insignificant amount.
Wasn't her first tattoo. She also hung out there/visited several times when not there for a tattoo.
Not disagreeing, just putting other possible scenarios out there.
I'm not married to any one specific theory, but I am casually dating several.
Well Cr*p then!
:truce:
I do not understand why all the news broadcasts would go on and on about Chloroform being found at the remains site, if in fact it is no different than what would be found in drinking water!
I am also surprised that by now we have not heard anything disputing these broadcasts by today. Geeez.
So, I am perfectly willing to take it back regarding this info being the smoking gun, but I WON'T TAKE BACK THAT I THINK CASEY IS GOOD FOR IT nor that I believe she will be convicted of murder in some degree or another.
I've never known a drug user to put empty toilet paper rolls in liquid storage containers for purposes of concealment (although I agree, some of them can do some crazy/stupid things, being careless with your buy is generally not one of them). Is this a prison thing? It doesn't seem like it'd be too effective...
I've never known a drug user to put empty toilet paper rolls in liquid storage containers for purposes of concealment (although I agree, some of them can do some crazy/stupid things, being careless with your buy is generally not one of them). Is this a prison thing? It doesn't seem like it'd be too effective...
They do it because 'guilty' drives ratings higher. 'Not guilty' is a channel changer.
Not finding any inculpatory evidence will not drive ratings and their paychecks higher. America is rich in evil crime reporters/analysts who manufacture evidence and poison jury pools so as to increase their following and wealth. They have ceespools for hearts.
I previously posted Nancy Grace's lead-in to her show on Friday night, I'll repost it.
"Tonight, we learn found at the crime scene, along with little Caylee`s remains, syringes loaded with chloroform, the super-powerful knock-out drug, the same drug found in tot mom`s car trunk. With the deadly syringes, a Gatorade bottle also loaded with chloroform, the bombshell suggesting tot mom cooked up homemade chloroform, carried it in the Gatorade bottle, then injecting it directly into her 2-year-old girl`s body, bound with duct tape."
Caylee was not bound with duct tape. Deadly 'syringes' were not found -- take note as to how one syringe became more than one syringe, so as to come across as still more sinister. And syringes were not 'loaded' with chloroform. Those boldfaced lies were put forth to improve ratings and make money. It's evil. And it was done knowingly.
HTH
Agreed. The concentration of chloroform in the syringe was about 1/5 the concentration in the Gatorade bottle. Truly an insignificant amount.
So are any of the amounts of chloroform significant? or are they only amounts that would be found in ordinary things like tap water?