Quoting STS-135 - bringing over from Case for Murder Thread 1 - page 81- clipped for focus:
The still-unexplained impressions on Rebecca's left forearm and right calf could have only been made by the rope - because there are two loops clearly visible in both places. How did they get there unless she was already dead when they were made? There is no way that the binding on her legs could've moved that much unless she was dragged by LE, which I find extremely unlikely. The binding on her wrists AS already made sure to tell us that he loosened and moved, allegedly to take her pulse, but I still haven't found any reason not to think that he could've loosened and moved them to cover the impressions on her foreram which he might've only been able to notice with daylight in the morning. Apparently he didn't notice the impressions on her calf, or he might've also loosed those bindings to try to account for how the impressions were made.
Does anyone here still really believe that the bindings on her leg could've moved - What is it, two or three inches? - and then move back to their original position on their own? Are you thinking that LE moved them for photographing? I don't believe that one bit. Also, there are several loops on the rope binding still present on both her arms and her legs, so how come only two loops left impressions on both her arms and her legs?????!!!!! We should've seen four or more loops if both bindings had in fact been moved!!! Please remember, there was no other rope found on the lawn and the short piece of rope on the noose end was lying on the grass around her head - nowhere near either her arms or her legs while she lyed there for hours.
I find this to be a huge red flag IMO. Although I have yet to figure out where those impressions could've been made. IMHO they point to having been tied to something, even if perhaps not necessarily the chair - or at least not the one LE found in the room. That chair and comforter were left there to try to cover something, perhaps until the moisture from the cleanup dried. Was the room examined under blue light?
You make some very good points, STS-135. Therefore, I'd say, Houston, we have a problem -- actually quite a few.
Will begin with RED FLAGS on the ankles as noted in attached image:
1)
RZ's body had already been turned from her LEFT side to her RIGHT side when this photo was taken as can see the brick walkway in the background. Her body was originally facing AWAY from the walkway, her RIGHT leg resting ABOVE her LEFT leg, the opposite as seen in this photo;
2) The 3 black arrows point to problems.
Top arrow points to a DEEP indentation (maybe 4 or 5 rope widths, yet looks more like a crevice as seems to dip in the center) on her outer LEFT calf approximately 4 or 5 rope widths above the binding.
Lower left black arrow points to what looks like rope indentation that seems to circle beyond the levidity (red to white) mark, indicating whatever caused that indentation was at one time wrapped around the calf.
The other black arrow points to 3 parallel slanted indentations. They could match up to the leg of the white wicker chair but
I question whether an indentation created before death would still remain post-mortem for 13 - 18 hours?
Considering there was only a 1/2 inch distance between ankles (according to AR), IMO none of these indentations can be attributed to the rope having slipped down when LE flipped her body from left to right.
3)
Her RIGHT leg is almost bursting with blood from the pooling, yet this is the leg that was on TOP, not bottom, while she was left exposed on the grass for 13+ hours after Adam allegedly cut her down. The pooling should obviously be in the opposite leg, her LEFT leg, since gravity pools the blood DOWN, not UP.
4) Sharp scratch on LEFT calf, and also looks like blood on outer left foot..
Now to the wrists:
1) attached photo:
left side photo taken in position body allegedly found. Right side photo, body is being tilted towards RZ's left as can see person behind with white shirt. Note: RZ RIGHT wrist is wearing blue Bionic; LEFT wrist has black Bionic and yellow Life Long;
2) Wrist segment of rope had 2 ends: photo on left shows one end (with question marks) pressed under her body and running under her right arm, the other end running under her right hip and seemingly through her left fingers.
Once her body is tiled (right side photo), that rope end with ??? now runs under her right arm. Shouldn't it appear in the forefront? Something off here that doesn't make sense
3) According to Gore theory, RZ defied gravity and CG when she tilted herself over the balcony on her LEFT hip.
What then caused the long bruise on her RIGHT hip as well as the deep scratches on the RIGHT side of her back (note arrows)?
4) Why all that paint on the OUTER thumb, as so well pointed out by Betty P? You can see the paint transfer to the rope.
This leads to believe the acrylic paint was very wet when the wrists were bound. Note: Acrylic paint dries very very quickly.
6) IMO The rope indentations on her left wrist (black and yellow Bionics) appear to be slippage that was revealed once her body was tilted.
This all may be redundant from previous comments. Just wanted to get it here on the record, so to speak, and to address STS-135's observations.
Note the lividity on her back clearly outlining her wrists and hands. We've discussed the discrepancy in rigor and livor mortis umpteen times, but I will state it again. In order for the blood to have fixed in her back and not in her feet, she had to have been fairly "fresh" when placed on the ground. It is scientifically impossible for her to have been hanging for almost 4 hours as "presumed" by ME Lucas IMO.
"Immediately after death, the blood is "unfixed" and will move to other body parts if the body's position is changed.
After a few hours, the pooled blood becomes "fixed" and will not move.
Read more:
http://www.deathreference.com/Py-Se/Rigor-Mortis-and-Other-Postmortem-Changes.html#ixzz2coccqBiS
I strongly believe that the autopsy photos paint a very different scenario than that presented on ME Lucas' report. MOO IMO JMO As gruesome as they are, literally hundreds of autopsy photos in high profile cases end up on the Internet (JFK, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, JonBenet Ramsey, Nicole Brown Simpson, etc etc). Why am I not surprised RZ's have not been leaked.. No need to answer. Hypothetical question... apologies for the long post.
Just my opinion