Tiger Woods arrested for D.U.I in Florida, 2017

[zencompass]

Quote Originally Posted by mister happy
All I can say is that it was extremely fortunate that he didn't kill anyone that night. According to the police report, he was totally gonziod zonked. I've read that one of the drugs he was taking is illegal in the U.S. He should have never been behind the wheel.

Couldn't agree more. I hope this is his wake up call to get his life in order.


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I wholeheartedly agree with both of you.

Brings to mind the case of the Canadian billionaire Marco Muzzo who, after drinking all night at his bachelor party in Florida, flew to Canada in a private jet.

He then got into his sports car and drove drunk (he was drinking on the plane as well) and killed all three little children and their grandfather from one family.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3514144/Canadian-man-sentenced-crash-killed-3-children.html

Tiger could have hit and killed anyone - people in a car or a cyclist or even a pedestrian.

Both of these men have incredible wealth and could easily have made the decision to have a private car pick them up.

It is astonishing and a blessing that Tiger didn't kill anyone.

 

[Hatfield]

I'm on a lot of pain medications including morphine and had to undergo a review of my fitness to drive by the DVLA (the U.K version of the DMV). They looked at all my medical records and letters from my GP to make the decision that I was fit to drive. It took a year due to the backlog but I was still allowed to drive during this period. I was advised that if I drove knowing I was drowsy or impaired I would be legally liable and could be prosecuted.

The problem is one Dr might prescribe one medication and another might prescribe another not knowing they could react with each other causing drowsiness.

I really don't understand why Tiger didn't just hire a driver to be on the safe side he can certainly afford one.

Re BBM

IMO only

I think I can answer that last question. I believe part of the reason is his arrogance. He was one of the most arrogant persons I have seen on the PGA tour. I watched him carefully in many rounds of golf and what struck out to me was his arrogance on the golf course.

Many many times he would throw or slam his golf club down on the ground when he did a bad shot. He even marred up a putting surface once with his putter. Which is a huge no-no since taking care of the greens is very important and costly.

I lost respect for him a long time ago as I watched him play.

This was all long before his issues with his ex-wife. Once all that happened it confirmed what I had known for years.

 

[Hatfield]

JMO
There is one other thing I wanted to mention which makes me feel a little sorry for the man. When he first started to contemplate getting his first surgery I cringed because I just knew if he did that it would ruin his golf game. I firmly believe he will never be the golfer he once was because of the surgeries he has had.

I understand that choosing when and if to get surgery is a tough decision and sometimes the pain in ones body forces us to have surgery. So he may have felt he had to go ahead with it. In his case I do think the surgeries have made him where he can never be the golfer he once was.

I have seen way too many examples of when a person gets a surgery then things just arent the same or a person sometimes even is worse off.

Dont get me wrong. I understand we sometimes have to have them and when done properly they can be hugelely successful. Its just in his case with the game of golf being such a touchy feely game, I just knew that this would not be a good decision for him if he could have just tolerated whatever pain he had until he retired and then get whatever surgery he needed after he quit the game of golf.

As we all know his troubles are more than just his body. His attitude and other things have contributed to his downfall from the champion he once was.

 

[human]

If anyone is contemplating back surgery, this is an excellent book.

Crooked: Outwitting the Back Pain Industry and Getting on the Road to Recovery Hardcover – May 9, 2017
by Cathryn Jakobson Ramin (Author)

 

[Laughing]

If anyone is contemplating back surgery,

find a specialist in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation instead:

http://www.aapmr.org/home

These physicians want to restore function with the least intervention. I can't say enough about my PMR doctor & the Physical Therapy department....

 

[human]

find a specialist in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation instead:

http://www.aapmr.org/home

These physicians want to restore function with the least intervention. I can't say enough about my PMR doctor & the Physical Therapy department....

The book talks about the scams re back pain and surgery. Good you got something that worked.

 

[Meryl12]

Have just watched this on the news. He did hit someone or something, the reason his car was stopped on the road is because the front was smashed and the two front wheels were flat, his car was a tow-away. Exactly what he hit no-one knows. Why he didn't call for help himself - no-one knows, perhaps he couldn't because he simply passed out.
Maybe who-ever he hit didn't want a legal battle with him, so just drove off.

 

[Hatfield]

If anyone is contemplating back surgery, this is an excellent book.

Crooked: Outwitting the Back Pain Industry and Getting on the Road to Recovery Hardcover – May 9, 2017
by Cathryn Jakobson Ramin (Author)

Thanks so much for the book reference.

I read the reviews on Amazon. This sounds like an amazingly good book and I agree it would be a great book to get if anyone has chronic back pain issues they are dealing with or know of someone who does.

This book can really help because the 2nd half of the book provides suggestions of how to help people. It focuses on back pain but I suspect it could help people with chronic pain of other sorts because sometimes the suggestions could apply to other areas of the body.

Thanks for the book reference. The reviews on Amazon have glowingly good reviews from other doctors and surgeons too.

ETA: It took the author 10 years of research and her own experiences to help write the book.

 

[TeaTime]

He is just like millions of other people who take pain meds, drink and end up in trouble. Nothing so special about him that he is above that kind of behavior. Glad he didn't kill himself or someone else.

I can't tell you how many people I know are in chronic pain and take pain meds daily for relief. It is sickening. The longer they take the meds, the more of them they need to get the same level of relief. Two overdosed and were brought back from the edge of death, two were arrested and convicted of DUI, two died in their 40's liver failure caused by these meds. All had/have multiple divorces from the drug abuse. It is a messy tragedy which always starts with an invasive surgical procedure.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

He is just like millions of other people who take pain meds, drink and end up in trouble. Nothing so special about him that he is above that kind of behavior. Glad he didn't kill himself or someone else.

I can't tell you how many people I know are in chronic pain and take pain meds daily for relief. It is sickening. The longer they take the meds, the more of them they need to get the same level of relief. Two overdosed and were brought back from the edge of death, two were arrested and convicted of DUI, two died in their 40's liver failure caused by these meds. All had/have multiple divorces from the drug abuse. It is a messy tragedy which always starts with an invasive surgical procedure.

Per your first sentence: well he is **unlike** millions of other people because he was video shamed all over the news & social media. And it was a rather long sobriety test so yep, everyone is talking & laughing at TW at his worst moment. In reality, LE should've called an ambulance when they realized his car was damaged & he was barely functioning/coherent.

And to your last paragraph: I don't think anyone goes in for invasive surgery expecting the **bonus** gift of becoming an addict.

I have compassion for anyone struggling. And empathy.

It can happen to anyone, and quickly.

 

[ninij9]

I'mho, I'm guessing Mr Woods has had a problem with Rx drugs since his famous Ambien stunt. The sad news is the number of shady, *****ty Drs that continuously write too many scripts for their famous patients. I cannot condemn​ Mr Woods if he has a substance issue, I can only hope that this was his rock bottom (I don't think it is). I hope those near and dear to him will get him away from the medicating cycle before he ends up a Michael Jackson or a Prince.

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[mister happy]

I'mho, I'm guessing Mr Woods has had a problem with Rx drugs since his famous Ambien stunt. The sad news is the number of shady, *****ty Drs that continuously write too many scripts for their famous patients. I cannot condemn​ Mr Woods if he has a substance issue, I can only hope that this was his rock bottom (I don't think it is). I hope those near and dear to him will get him away from the medicating cycle before he ends up a Michael Jackson or a Prince.

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I was surprised to learn about the many surgeries Tiger has had over the years, including 4 back surgeries since 2014. My guess: He's very experienced with the effects of his prescribed medications, and probably has quite a collection of them. Back in 2009 there was mention of him having "Ambien sex" with his mistresses. I think there's a possibility he was "free forming" with an array of meds in order to feel fine and get high. Of course I could be wrong. Anyhow, it's good for Tiger that this isn't an alcohol related DUI because it would've been even more of a PR nightmare, with no wiggle room. JMO

 

[rob]

Have just watched this on the news. He did hit someone or something, the reason his car was stopped on the road is because the front was smashed and the two front wheels were flat, his car was a tow

Unless that person was intoxicated himself, most people WOULD want a legal battle with him. If he hit you in his condition, you might not end up a billionaire, but I'm sure the payoff would be astronomical, just to attempt to keep it out of the media.

 

[rob]

Above: my 'reply with quote' button is not working correctly, neither is my 'edit post'.

 

[ninij9]

Have just watched this on the news. He did hit someone or something, the reason his car was stopped on the road is because the front was smashed and the two front wheels were flat, his car was a tow

Unless that person was intoxicated himself, most people WOULD want a legal battle with him. If he hit you in his condition, you might not end up a billionaire, but I'm sure the payoff would be astronomical, just to attempt to keep it out of the media.

Here's to hoping he hit a guard rail or a tree. I hope LE takes the time to investigate posdible skid marks or road rubble to confirm he didn't toss some unsuspecting biker or pedestrian off the road into a ditch.

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[ninij9]

I am by the way legally prescribed the following meds: Ambien, Xanax, Tramadol and Oxycodone (I don't take the Oxycodone more than twice a year maybe and have disposed of alot of it). These meds are NEVER, EVER, EVER taken together, and always ALWAYS as prescribed. I also stopped drinking alcohol the very day I was prescribed my first med. Drs KNOW if you are taking as prescribed or if you are abusing. I'm not condemning Mr Woods, I'm only suggesting that he has a substance abuse problem.

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[Cubby]

TW had vicodin, dilaudid, xanax, ambien, and THC in his system at the time of his dui arrest.

Also, per the link-he started rehab in June and completed in July. No where, do I know of a rehab program that is completed in less than 30 days. It doesn't sound like he's hit bottom yet. Sad for him and his family. Addiction is an ugly disease. I hope he finds the strength to put as much effort into his recovery as he did his golf game, otherwise he won't be around long.


http://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id...n-dilaudid-xanax-ambien-thc-system-dui-arrest


http://deadspin.com/tiger-woods-had-vicodin-dilaudid-ambien-and-more-in-s-1797842676

 

[human]

Four back surgeries. Ugh, Hope he is not in horrible pain

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Tiger Woods had pain, anxiety, sleep drugs in system
Golfer says he was trying to treat himself

By SUSAN SCUTTI , CNN
Posted: 6:23 PM, August 14, 2017
Updated: 8:48 AM, August 15, 2017

(CNN) - Golfer Tiger Woods had pain, anxiety and sleep medications, as well as THC, in his system when he was arrested on Memorial Day on suspicion of driving under the influence, according to a toxicology report released Monday by the Palm Beach County (Florida) Sheriff's Office.

A urine test revealed hydrocodone and hydromorphone, two opioid pain medications; alprazolam, prescribed for anxiety and panic disorders; zolpidem, a sedative prescribed for insomnia; and metabolites of alprazolam and of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana. Metabolites are what remains in the body after a person uses a drug.

"Recently, I had been trying on my own to treat my back pain and a sleep disorder, including insomnia, but I realize now it was a mistake to do this without medical assistance," Woods said in a statement Monday. "I am continuing to work with my doctors, and they feel I've made significant progress. I remain grateful for the amazing support that I continue to receive and for the family and friends that are assisting me." ...

https://www.clickondetroit.com/sports/tiger-woods-had-pain-anxiety-sleep-drugs-in-system

 

[SeesSeas]

http://www.baynews9.com/content/new...cles/cfn/2017/10/24/tiger_woods_to_plead.html
Tiger Woods to plead guilty to reckless driving, enter program
Last Updated: Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 12:37 PM EDT
FORT LAUDERDALE -- Golfer Tiger Woods will plead guilty to reckless driving in South Florida for an incident back in May, and enter into a diversion program.
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