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As did I.
Found Safe TN - Mary Catherine Elizabeth Thomas, 15, Maury County, 13 March 2017 #9
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As did I.
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I want to throw things. AHHHH!!!
I'm still really impressed with the man who took photos and called in, though. It does give me hope. And I still believe they aren't far away from the area.
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I'm still really impressed with the man who took photos and called in, though. It does give me hope. And I still believe they aren't far away from the area.
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I THINK the van owner resembled ET. KUDOS for trying!
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Right? I thought it was insane too...that's why I remember it being said.
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Well, since he's not yet served any prison time, he couldn't have made it himself.
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I THINK the van owner resembled ET. Kudos for trying!
I want to see a pic of the fake ET and TC
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I don't understand the discrepancy between the supposed van, and witnesses seeing the two of them boarding a MATA bus. That's what all the fuss was about, which bus was it and which way did it go ? It had nothing to do with the van...........did it ? What am I missing here ?
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THIS POST IS HYSTERICALLY FUNNY !! Poster is talking about 'license plates' lol --- whoever you are, I give you an A++ in quick humor !! :happydance:
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Cummins is 50 years old
Cummins married his wife in 1985
Cummins told students he was a millionaire and a CIA operative that traveled on secret missions
Elizabeth Thomas is 15
ET is 5'2"
ET is left handed
ET has hazel eyes
ET has a slight lisp
ET has no discernible accent
ET has scars on face
On January 23 a female schoolmate saw TC kiss ET on the lips in the classroom with TC's grandchild in the room "Cummins was inside his classroom after school Jan. 23 with his grandson and Thomas, the girl told family members, when she walked in and inexplicably saw them kissing. Cummins and Thomas were sitting side by side in chairs and kissed on the lips as the grandchild, who also attends Culleoka, was using one of the classroom's computers."
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/n...izabeth-thomas
January 24th the female student confronted TC about the kiss with another student. TC told the students he was a father figure to ET and she was a "close and best friend". "The 12-year-old seventh-grader went to Cummins the morning of Jan. 24 for an explanation before reporting him, the family said. She wanted to know the nature of his relationship with Thomas."
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/n...izabeth-thomas
and, "According to his personnel file, when Cummins was confronted, he told two students he was a father figure to Elizabeth and saw her as a close and best friend. He also said that Elizabeth had been through a lot and had suffered an abusive home life."
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life
LE also started an investigation. "The student was "very credible," Maury County Sheriff Bucky Rowland said, setting off an investigation into Cummins' behavior and relationship with students."
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/n...izabeth-thomas
January 30th school concluded investigation, found no evidence since both ET and TC denied the kiss but ET was removed from class.
January 31 ET's father found out about kiss from Sheriff who was investigating the issue.
February 3 TC is reprimanded for having ET in his room. Another teacher said she was in the classroom for over 30mins.
"The teacher would later be reprimanded on Feb. 3 by school principal Penny Love after the girl was seen in Cummins classroom for a little more than half an hour that day. In her letter, Love said the girl being in his classroom was a violation of the principals order to him."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tad-cumm...zabeth-thomas/
February 6 TC is suspended for insubordination
March 13 ET tells her sister to call 911 if she isn't home by 6pm
http://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-al...ry?id=46273578
Other details:
School never informed ET's father of inappropriate contact or of any investigation
http://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-al...ry?id=46273578
ET was dropped off by friend at Shoney's on March 13th, ET asked friend to instead take her back home, friend refused.
Friend who dropped ET off is not cooperating with LE
"Employees at the Shoney's in Columbia said Thomas was waiting with her bags inside the restaurant on March 13. They said when Tad Cummins pulled up, the teen ran outside leaving her back pack behind."
http://whnt.com/2017/03/24/da-elizab...dissapearance/
School and students refuse to wear green ribbons in support of ET and ET has been called a harlot (per Sister)
TC has two guns (unknown what type) "Authorities say he is armed with two handguns"
http://www.9news.com/news/crime/stat...teen/423257704
ET's phone pinged in Decatur AL March 13 at 3:06pm "A spokesperson for the Decatur, Alabama, police told ABC News by phone that Elizabeth had not been physically seen in or around Decatur and that reports of their whereabouts may have been attributed to a ping from the girls cell phone."
http://krvn.com/abc_national/timelin...abcid35882433/
ET was originally reported as a runaway, although her father early on maintained she had been abducted by TC
TC's wife reported him missing.
LE concluded 24 hours after both reported missing that TC and ET were together, so they had a 24 headstart before the Amber Alert was issued. "Thomas, a 15-year-old from Middle Tennessee, disappeared with her ex-teacher, 50-year-old Tad Cummins, on March 13. There have been no confirmed sightings since that day and an Amber Alert was issued the next day"
http://www.9news.com/news/crime/stat...teen/423257704
Amber Alert has not been issued nationwide.
LE believe they may be in Mexico or Central America posing as missionaries.
"Law enforcement in Mexico has been notified of the Amber Alert," Cooper said. "But we don't know how much publicity it's getting and we need people down there to know about this because it's possible that's where they are. Cooper said although authorities don't have any information specifically linking Cummins and Thomas to Mexico, it's possible they made it that far."Because he was a very religious man, very knowledgeable of the Bible, it's possible that he's playing the role of a missionary in that area," Cooper said. "
http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/in..._thomas_u.html
TC took a loan for 4,500. "TBI said Cummins secured a title loan for a personal vehicle and other personal effects several days before his disappearance, netting $4,500 in cash."
http://fox17.com/news/local/tbi-rele...izabeth-thomas
TC searched teen marriages " Cummins researched 'teen marriage' just a few days before he and Elizabeth disappeared. "
http://www.9news.com/news/crime/stat...teen/423257704
TC searched disabling GPS on automobile "Cummins also searched whether police could track his car, a Nissan Rogue, according to TBI."
http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/in..._thomas_a.html
TC took Nissan Rogue, leaving wife with his Jeep which she is unable to drive "He took the car, Scott said. And she (Cummins' wife) cant even drive a stick.
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...mins/99515186/
TC told his wife on the morning he disappeared he was going out for a job interview.
TC has an associates degree, was a respiratory therapist, taught forensics, had an alternative certification to teach
"Cummins has held a professional occupational educators license since 2014 in health science. To obtain the license, educators need one years work in the field in the past five years and an associate degree."
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...mins/99515186/
TC has a degree in interdisciplinary studies
"He later returned to school at Tennessee State University while teaching, graduating in 2014 with a degree in interdisciplinary studies"
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...mins/99515186/
TC's former colleague states TC was a bully and narcissist
TC's former colleague is offering a 5,000 reward
LE is offering a 1,000 reward
There have been no credible sightings of TC or ET since March 13
ET left a bag behind at Shoney's, but it was later gone. The story goes that it was left outside and picked up by someone.
Shoney's had no working surveillance camera (per Sister) and ""We believe for one reason or another she left one of these bags behind and it disappeared later that day," said DA Brent Cooper.Cooper said someone either took the bag or Elizabeth may have come back for it" http://whnt.com/2017/03/24/da-elizab...dissapearance/
ET has wheat and tomato allergies and needs an epi pen.(per Sister)
ET took her sister's bathing suit with her (per Sister)
ET hid from TC when he tried to see her at work. "One of Thomas family lawyers told WKRN that, at some point before the March 13 disappearance, Cummins came into Elizabeth's work place. The teen hid in a bathroom and urged a co-worker to tell the teacher that she wasn't there." http://patch.com/tennessee/nashville...ns-family-says (this was also confirmed by Sister)
ET had been taken from her mother's custody and her father has custody of her.
"Elizabeth is one of 10 children in a single-parent home because her father now has full custody of all of them."
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life
ET had formerly been homeschooled, was a freshman in high school and had just started public school.
"She started as a freshman this year, entering the public school system for the very first time."
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life
TC was her teacher.
ET's mother was charged with abuse and lost custody.
"police arrested Elizabeths mother, Kimberly Thomas, last year. She was charged with five counts of child abuse and neglect. According to court documents, Kimberly Thomas beat Elizabeth and four of her siblings."
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life
ET's mother gave an interview.
TC was looking for work in Decatur
TC and ET may have stayed in a motel in Decatur the first night
TC watched shows about living off the grid "Investigators also tell CBS News that Cummins appears to have been planning this for some time by watching survivalist shows."
http://www.ktvq.com/story/34952463/m...eacher-student
TC has no criminal record in the state of TN. "Cummins has no criminal record in the state of Tennessee."
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/34935506...y-went-missing
I'll be editing this post with sources and such, but is there anything I missed?
Destany Parrish is a former student who TC may have groomed prior to ET, made alone time for the two of them and sang her a love song he'd written. He told us all one day that the office had gotten on to him and that we all had to go back to the lunch room because that's where we're supposed to be anyway," Parrish recalled. "Everybody left and I got my bag and got ready to leave, and he said the office hadn't said anything to him, he just didn't want that many kids in his room. It just ended up being he and I chilling in there. I would go there after school.
Parrish said she would go to Cummins room after school and he would often take her to services at the Destiny Church in Columbia Parrish was 15 at the time, in 2011 she was his student.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34977042/t...p-with-teacher
"One day, Parrish said Cummins arranged for them to be alone and he sang the lyrics he had written.
One of the lyrics read, "I could swim for a thousand miles in the oceans inside your eyes and never reach the side."
"It was just me and tad. We were in the music room. It was right next to his classroom, and I had learned a new song on the piano," said Parrish. "I was gonna go show him, but he sat down first and played that song, and I started recording a little bit in.
When asked if she felt the song was for her, Parrish said she didn't assume, but looking back, things seem different."
http://www.newschannel5.com/news/for...er-a-love-song
Interview with Thomas family attorneys by Nancy Grace: https://www.podcastchart.com/podcast...-at-school/pop
Cummins married his wife in 1985
Cummins told students he was a millionaire and a CIA operative that traveled on secret missions
Elizabeth Thomas is 15
ET is 5'2"
ET is left handed
ET has hazel eyes
ET has a slight lisp
ET has no discernible accent
ET has scars on face
On January 23 a female schoolmate saw TC kiss ET on the lips in the classroom with TC's grandchild in the room "Cummins was inside his classroom after school Jan. 23 with his grandson and Thomas, the girl told family members, when she walked in and inexplicably saw them kissing. Cummins and Thomas were sitting side by side in chairs and kissed on the lips as the grandchild, who also attends Culleoka, was using one of the classroom's computers."
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/n...izabeth-thomas
January 24th the female student confronted TC about the kiss with another student. TC told the students he was a father figure to ET and she was a "close and best friend". "The 12-year-old seventh-grader went to Cummins the morning of Jan. 24 for an explanation before reporting him, the family said. She wanted to know the nature of his relationship with Thomas."
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/n...izabeth-thomas
and, "According to his personnel file, when Cummins was confronted, he told two students he was a father figure to Elizabeth and saw her as a close and best friend. He also said that Elizabeth had been through a lot and had suffered an abusive home life."
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life
LE also started an investigation. "The student was "very credible," Maury County Sheriff Bucky Rowland said, setting off an investigation into Cummins' behavior and relationship with students."
http://www.columbiadailyherald.com/n...izabeth-thomas
January 30th school concluded investigation, found no evidence since both ET and TC denied the kiss but ET was removed from class.
January 31 ET's father found out about kiss from Sheriff who was investigating the issue.
February 3 TC is reprimanded for having ET in his room. Another teacher said she was in the classroom for over 30mins.
"The teacher would later be reprimanded on Feb. 3 by school principal Penny Love after the girl was seen in Cummins classroom for a little more than half an hour that day. In her letter, Love said the girl being in his classroom was a violation of the principals order to him."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tad-cumm...zabeth-thomas/
February 6 TC is suspended for insubordination
March 13 ET tells her sister to call 911 if she isn't home by 6pm
http://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-al...ry?id=46273578
Other details:
School never informed ET's father of inappropriate contact or of any investigation
http://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-al...ry?id=46273578
ET was dropped off by friend at Shoney's on March 13th, ET asked friend to instead take her back home, friend refused.
Friend who dropped ET off is not cooperating with LE
"Employees at the Shoney's in Columbia said Thomas was waiting with her bags inside the restaurant on March 13. They said when Tad Cummins pulled up, the teen ran outside leaving her back pack behind."
http://whnt.com/2017/03/24/da-elizab...dissapearance/
School and students refuse to wear green ribbons in support of ET and ET has been called a harlot (per Sister)
TC has two guns (unknown what type) "Authorities say he is armed with two handguns"
http://www.9news.com/news/crime/stat...teen/423257704
ET's phone pinged in Decatur AL March 13 at 3:06pm "A spokesperson for the Decatur, Alabama, police told ABC News by phone that Elizabeth had not been physically seen in or around Decatur and that reports of their whereabouts may have been attributed to a ping from the girls cell phone."
http://krvn.com/abc_national/timelin...abcid35882433/
ET was originally reported as a runaway, although her father early on maintained she had been abducted by TC
TC's wife reported him missing.
LE concluded 24 hours after both reported missing that TC and ET were together, so they had a 24 headstart before the Amber Alert was issued. "Thomas, a 15-year-old from Middle Tennessee, disappeared with her ex-teacher, 50-year-old Tad Cummins, on March 13. There have been no confirmed sightings since that day and an Amber Alert was issued the next day"
http://www.9news.com/news/crime/stat...teen/423257704
Amber Alert has not been issued nationwide.
LE believe they may be in Mexico or Central America posing as missionaries.
"Law enforcement in Mexico has been notified of the Amber Alert," Cooper said. "But we don't know how much publicity it's getting and we need people down there to know about this because it's possible that's where they are. Cooper said although authorities don't have any information specifically linking Cummins and Thomas to Mexico, it's possible they made it that far."Because he was a very religious man, very knowledgeable of the Bible, it's possible that he's playing the role of a missionary in that area," Cooper said. "
http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/in..._thomas_u.html
TC took a loan for 4,500. "TBI said Cummins secured a title loan for a personal vehicle and other personal effects several days before his disappearance, netting $4,500 in cash."
http://fox17.com/news/local/tbi-rele...izabeth-thomas
TC searched teen marriages " Cummins researched 'teen marriage' just a few days before he and Elizabeth disappeared. "
http://www.9news.com/news/crime/stat...teen/423257704
TC searched disabling GPS on automobile "Cummins also searched whether police could track his car, a Nissan Rogue, according to TBI."
http://www.al.com/news/huntsville/in..._thomas_a.html
TC took Nissan Rogue, leaving wife with his Jeep which she is unable to drive "He took the car, Scott said. And she (Cummins' wife) cant even drive a stick.
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...mins/99515186/
TC told his wife on the morning he disappeared he was going out for a job interview.
TC has an associates degree, was a respiratory therapist, taught forensics, had an alternative certification to teach
"Cummins has held a professional occupational educators license since 2014 in health science. To obtain the license, educators need one years work in the field in the past five years and an associate degree."
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...mins/99515186/
TC has a degree in interdisciplinary studies
"He later returned to school at Tennessee State University while teaching, graduating in 2014 with a degree in interdisciplinary studies"
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news...mins/99515186/
TC's former colleague states TC was a bully and narcissist
TC's former colleague is offering a 5,000 reward
LE is offering a 1,000 reward
There have been no credible sightings of TC or ET since March 13
ET left a bag behind at Shoney's, but it was later gone. The story goes that it was left outside and picked up by someone.
Shoney's had no working surveillance camera (per Sister) and ""We believe for one reason or another she left one of these bags behind and it disappeared later that day," said DA Brent Cooper.Cooper said someone either took the bag or Elizabeth may have come back for it" http://whnt.com/2017/03/24/da-elizab...dissapearance/
ET has wheat and tomato allergies and needs an epi pen.(per Sister)
ET took her sister's bathing suit with her (per Sister)
ET hid from TC when he tried to see her at work. "One of Thomas family lawyers told WKRN that, at some point before the March 13 disappearance, Cummins came into Elizabeth's work place. The teen hid in a bathroom and urged a co-worker to tell the teacher that she wasn't there." http://patch.com/tennessee/nashville...ns-family-says (this was also confirmed by Sister)
ET had been taken from her mother's custody and her father has custody of her.
"Elizabeth is one of 10 children in a single-parent home because her father now has full custody of all of them."
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life
ET had formerly been homeschooled, was a freshman in high school and had just started public school.
"She started as a freshman this year, entering the public school system for the very first time."
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life
TC was her teacher.
ET's mother was charged with abuse and lost custody.
"police arrested Elizabeths mother, Kimberly Thomas, last year. She was charged with five counts of child abuse and neglect. According to court documents, Kimberly Thomas beat Elizabeth and four of her siblings."
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34967126/d...ling-home-life
ET's mother gave an interview.
TC was looking for work in Decatur
TC and ET may have stayed in a motel in Decatur the first night
TC watched shows about living off the grid "Investigators also tell CBS News that Cummins appears to have been planning this for some time by watching survivalist shows."
http://www.ktvq.com/story/34952463/m...eacher-student
TC has no criminal record in the state of TN. "Cummins has no criminal record in the state of Tennessee."
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/34935506...y-went-missing
I'll be editing this post with sources and such, but is there anything I missed?
Destany Parrish is a former student who TC may have groomed prior to ET, made alone time for the two of them and sang her a love song he'd written. He told us all one day that the office had gotten on to him and that we all had to go back to the lunch room because that's where we're supposed to be anyway," Parrish recalled. "Everybody left and I got my bag and got ready to leave, and he said the office hadn't said anything to him, he just didn't want that many kids in his room. It just ended up being he and I chilling in there. I would go there after school.
Parrish said she would go to Cummins room after school and he would often take her to services at the Destiny Church in Columbia Parrish was 15 at the time, in 2011 she was his student.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/34977042/t...p-with-teacher
"One day, Parrish said Cummins arranged for them to be alone and he sang the lyrics he had written.
One of the lyrics read, "I could swim for a thousand miles in the oceans inside your eyes and never reach the side."
"It was just me and tad. We were in the music room. It was right next to his classroom, and I had learned a new song on the piano," said Parrish. "I was gonna go show him, but he sat down first and played that song, and I started recording a little bit in.
When asked if she felt the song was for her, Parrish said she didn't assume, but looking back, things seem different."
http://www.newschannel5.com/news/for...er-a-love-song
Interview with Thomas family attorneys by Nancy Grace: https://www.podcastchart.com/podcast...-at-school/pop
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MAYBE the girl standing by the van resembled ET.
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Agreed! There is/was way too much activity and coincidence going on! Hopefully LE is just trying to cool things down, so TC thinks he is in the clear.
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So there was a news report with a link on the last feed that said a van had TC's license plate on it, right? Or am I losing my marbles?
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That's exactly what they reported on the live video, that's why this sighting seemed to have so much validity. How a reporter could have gotten that information so wrong is beyond me.
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Eye witness accounts are notoriously unreliable. Someone probably saw two people get out of the van and head in the general direction of the bus stop, and within 10 minutes everyone in the area was probably clamoring to talk to reporters, telling them all that the TC and ET got on a bus. If TBI hadn't shut it down, we'd probably be getting reports that he took the bus hostage by now.
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Dear Media,
If confirmation of sightings from a state-run LE organization supersedes confirmation of sightings from local authorities, then please wait to get the highest level of confirmation possible before going live on tv with "breaking news" or at the very least, please specify if the highest level of confirmation possible is still pending. Families of victims are watching and you are being unethical about what your "breaking news" entails.
Thank you.
If confirmation of sightings from a state-run LE organization supersedes confirmation of sightings from local authorities, then please wait to get the highest level of confirmation possible before going live on tv with "breaking news" or at the very least, please specify if the highest level of confirmation possible is still pending. Families of victims are watching and you are being unethical about what your "breaking news" entails.
Thank you.
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Yeah the two people with the van were clearly still standing by the van with the police. The guy in the maroon shirt and the girl in the black shirt. They obviously didn't get on a bus and leave the van there. So who got on a bus? Was that part of the same "sighting" as the van thing?
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Don't forget to take out the garbage--lol
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