GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #17

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"The pathologist, Dr Delaney, revealed that Joanna suffered 43 injuries during the struggle that ended her life. He showed photographs to the jury of red bruise marks on her neck and chin, and blood underneath her nose. He made the jury aware that these injuries were sustained during life, while the heart was beating. He went on to say that Tabak would have seen her struggling to breathe. Mr Lickley, prosecuting, pointed out that Tabak was a foot taller than Joanna and could have removed his hand to save her. He chose not to which meant she endured a slow and painful death."

http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co...l;jsessionid=5F4F286FF3600886A5F283B2C174CD2B

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http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/joanna-yeates/key-figures.html
 
"Forensic scientist Tanya Nickson explained that the presence of blood on the top of the wall near where the body had been found, in Longwood Lane, indicated Tabak had tried to lift Joanna’s body over it. Failing to do so, he had instead placed her body in a foetal-type position on the snow and covered it with leaves.

Returning home Tabak told the jury he disposed of the missing pizza and sock in an industrial wheelie bin. The police would never find what they first believed to be their vital clues."

http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co...l;jsessionid=5F4F286FF3600886A5F283B2C174CD2B

I don't believe that VT disposed of the pizza ... I think he had it for his "tea" - a term a Dutchman would care much about. The sock probably was disposed of, along with the pizza box, maybe in someone else's wheelie bin.

I remember early on we were wondering who would have done this ... blood on the wall because he tried to put her over the wall, gave up and then covered her with leaves in the narrow ditch. It didn't make sense. The missing pizza box and sock didn't make sense. Knowing now that a rather well educated young man murdered her, it makes sense that he covered her with leaves on the side of the road. He thought he was so clever that he could get away with it. Who is going to connect a woman on the side of the road with him ... he thought. Even if evidence was found, he thought he could accuse forensic labs of fabricating evidence ... perhaps he was watching the Italian courts. He ate the pizza and used the sock to harm Joanna so the pizza box and sock were disappeared by a clever murderer. He was originally cleared, but the lies he told about his landlord ... through the phone call that came from VT's girlfriend in the Netherlands ... perhaps the crying phone call ... did him in. Whatever VT's girlfriend said to police in that phone call, it was enough for police to go to the Netherlands and take a DNA swab from VT.
 
The cold bloodedness of this murder is mind baffling.
 
Chris Jefferies is scheduled to give evidence to the Leveson Enquiry on Monday next, 28th November.
 
veggiefan said:
Chris Jefferies is scheduled to give evidence to the Leveson Enquiry on Monday next, 28th November.
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Fascinating to see CJ at the enquiry - highly articulate, very intelligent and not without a sense of humour. In due course his evidence can be seen and heard at http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/hearings/

(the first hour and a quarter of Monday 28th November).

CJ briefly mentioned the apparent confusion early in the case about the statement he made to the police - apparently the press somehow got hold of a "garbled version" of what he had told the police (one might guess who leaked that, of course).

Incidentally it was confirmed, under oath, that litigation against A&S police is proceeding (despite the belief of the cop who used to post on this site that it will come to nothing).
 
veggiefan said:
Fascinating to see CJ at the enquiry - highly articulate, very intelligent and not without a sense of humour. In due course his evidence can be seen and heard at http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/hearings/

(the first hour and a quarter of Monday 28th November).

CJ briefly mentioned the apparent confusion early in the case about the statement he made to the police - apparently the press somehow got hold of a "garbled version" of what he had told the police (one might guess who leaked that, of course).

Incidentally it was confirmed, under oath, that litigation against A&S police is proceeding (despite the belief of the cop who used to post on this site that it will come to nothing).
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I missed that bit about the cop who used to post on here. do we know the screen name?
 
The
judge has ordered that he must spend at least 20 years in prison.
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... IS THAT LIFE. Could he not be out by the time he is fifty three.
A MOVING INTERVIEW just given by JY parents on This is The Westcountry Tonight.
 
Oh me, certainly doesn't seem a year since I started the first Yeates thread, but yes, on today, Christmas Eve, one year ago, it first appeared. Prayers for Joanna's family and friends; and a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all of you who have posted here.
 
kINGFISHER said:
... IS THAT LIFE. Could he not be out by the time he is fifty three.
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Theoretically, yes - if he applied for parole then, and if it were to be granted. Neither of which is certain to happen.

In any case, a "lifer" being released on parole is a very different matter from being released after having served a finite sentence. Any transgression, any breach of the parole rules, and they will be banged straight back up in prison. A life sentence does hang over one's head for life. They know that if they so much as drop a piece of litter, so to speak, they will be back inside.

Just thought it worthwhile to spell out the facts.
 
Cherwell said:
Theoretically, yes - if he applied for parole then, and if it were to be granted. Neither of which is certain to happen.

In any case, a "lifer" being released on parole is a very different matter from being released after having served a finite sentence. Any transgression, any breach of the parole rules, and they will be banged straight back up in prison. A life sentence does hang over one's head for life. They know that if they so much as drop a piece of litter, so to speak, they will be back inside.

Just thought it worthwhile to spell out the facts.
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Yes back inside , just might be a bit late by then. Happens time and time again and the question is always why were they released.

Not what you do but who you know.
 
Oh dear at least 53, he'll be as old as the hills before he gets out!
 
Was he 27 when he committed the murder? 25 years? That's a very long time for the pudgy, anti-social, smart guy. There's no guarantee that in 25 years he will be any less inclined to enjoy viewing women wearing jeans and t-shirts tied up in the back of his car. He's a cold man, going out to buy snacks after assaulting and murdering his neighbour, and before disposing of her body near a gravel pit next to a bike path.

He should not be out of sight at any time after release, as it will probably be the first thing he wants to see ... *advertiser censored*.
 
whiterum said:
Oh dear at least 53, he'll be as old as the hills before he gets out!
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53 isn't really that old, in a sense. A 53 year old would have no problem continuing with the type of psychological twist that we see in Vincent Tabak. His age wouldn't interfere with his psychopathy ... or whatever it is that makes him enjoy seeing women tortured to death. That will always be there, I think.
 
I'm not assuming that he will be released. They may take the view that, given the chance to continue, this guy would very likely be a serial killer.
 
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