Wayne Millard: Dellen Millard Charged with Murder in the First Degree #2

[Tamarind]

Thanks, Carli. That link lead me to an article I don't remember reading before, that it doesn't seem to want to link here for me, called Five unanswered questions in the alleged Dellen Millard killings.


It's nice to know I'm not the only one who doesn't quite feel the motive question is answered by simply saying it was a theft or a thrill.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...s_in_the_alleged_dellen_millard_killings.html

 

[matou]

Police did not "go on the record" with any motive and rarely does LE give motive anyway. Jmo


The thrill kill scenario came from "sources". LE, I believe.

 

[Sillybilly]

Actually, to flesh out your paraphrase, what the Coroner actually said was "The remains of Laura Babcock, one of Dellen Millard’s three alleged murder victims, were not found on the aviation heir’s farm".

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ound-at-dellen-millards-farm/article18476919/

According to the National Post "new information" led LE to obtain a search warrant in September "in connection to the disappearance of Laura Babcock."
They had already unsucessfully searched the same premises several months earlier for evidence relating to LB.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...t-dellen-millards-farm-after-new-information/

Perhaps, when everything eventually trickles down to the courtroom, we'll learn that, indeed, evidence was discovered that confirmed LB was murdered at the farm or that her body was taken there and possibly disposed of at that location. If that be the case it will also be interesting to learn why on earth the Coroner would not have been made aware of any of this. MOO. IMHO.

You'll note that my paraphrasing was attributed to LE, not the Coroner. If LE didn't find evidence related to LB's disappearance, then how could the Coroner state anything to the contrary? As to the Coroner referencing remains not found, remains = evidence, which simply substantiates LE's statement wrt 'no evidence'.

 

[Carli]

You'll note that my paraphrasing was attributed to LE, not the Coroner. If LE didn't find evidence related to LB's disappearance, then how could the Coroner state anything to the contrary? As to the Coroner referencing remains not found, remains = evidence, which simply substantiates LE's statement wrt 'no evidence'.

Yes, I did notice that and I was trying to be helpful. Is there any particular reason to be splitting this hair? If so, then what MSM reported LE as saying, back in September, is:

"“I’m not aware of anything [from the farm] that leads us to Laura Babcock’s disappearance,” Staff Inspector Greg McLane told The Globe and Mail Thursday."

Also, in the lead paragraph, "Police who searched murder suspect Dellen Millard’s farm last week have so far found “no significant connection” to a missing Toronto woman,"

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/try-it-now/?articleId=14430330

 

[Tamarind]

Police did not "go on the record" with any motive and rarely does LE give motive anyway. Jmo


The thrill kill scenario came from "sources". LE, I believe.

We can hope that the ''sources'' attend the trial, or their information be it erroneous or otherwise will be thrown out I suspect.

 

[Carli]

Police did not "go on the record" with any motive and rarely does LE give motive anyway. Jmo


The thrill kill scenario came from "sources". LE, I believe.

The nation's most reliable news source (ahem) stated as follows on May 16, 2013, citing that chatty unnamed "one police source" in a story quoted all over the place...

"TORONTO - Police are now considering a “thrill kill” as a possible motive for the mysterious slaying of Tim Bosma.“It is seriously being looked at,” said one police source. “There is a theory that it was about stealing a truck but also hurting somebody.”"

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/16/tim-bosmas-murder-may-have-been-thrill-kill-source

Then, the very next day, the Toronto Star reported...

"But the lead investigator in the case denied that police were looking at the possibility the homicide may have been just for a thrill.
“I don’t know the motive for this,” Det. Sgt. Matt Kavanagh said Thursday.

“I don’t even know what thrill kill means. It’s not been discussed. Where it’s coming from, I don’t know.”"

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2..._man_was_killed_inside_truck_source_says.html

 

[Sillybilly]

Is there any particular reason to be splitting this hair?

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Yes, smoke and mirrors .. you quoted my post paraphrasing statements by LE but your response was all about what the Coroner 'actually' said.

 

[Tamarind]

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Yes, smoke and mirrors .. you quoted my post paraphrasing statements by LE but your response was all about what the Coroner 'actually' said.

Does it really matter? The information allegedly given to LE, which prompted the arrival of people in white suits upon the instruction of people in dark suits at the farm, did not turn up a body or anything remotely close from what we can tell, without having access to the details that may or may not be in the hands of the police dept.

The coroner doesn't have a clue where the body is, the police couldn't find a body and neither did those combing the farm find a body. So regardless of who said what and when, we still have no body. No smoke, no mirrors, no body! It must be unbearable for the Babcock family to have to keep hearing allegation after allegation and yet be no further ahead. The fact that it took so long to even start really looking for her hasn't helped and blaming someone who she happened to call around the time she disappeared along with numerous others that she called around the same time seems extremely flimsy insofar as trying to attach blame and create evidence. But thats just my opinion, I would appreciate not being attacked for that opinion TIA.

 

[Carli]

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Yes, smoke and mirrors .. you quoted my post paraphrasing statements by LE but your response was all about what the Coroner 'actually' said.

Oy!!! Oh, and nudge, my later response to the response to the response was also about what some LE unnamed source allegedly said as well as what LE (in the shift shape of Kavanaugh actually said). Shall we let this rest now? I'm game. How about you? Mostly because I forget what the fuss was about in the first place. LOL. MOO IMHO. etc.

 

[Carli]

What's the deal here? MillardAir had set up a website called millardairmro.com to promote the new MRO, but that domain was deleted on May 5, 2013, just one day before the now infamous "test drive". Co-inkydink? Thoughts?

http://wschange.com/deleted/2013/04/05/millardairmro.com

The Nov 17 waybackmachine provides bare bones. Later caches are just plain odd. IMO

http://web.archive.org/web/20121117002736/http://www.millardairmro.com/

 

[SnooperDuper]

What's the deal here? MillardAir had set up a website called millardairmro.com to promote the new MRO, but that domain was deleted on May 5, 2013, just one day before the now infamous "test drive". Co-inkydink? Thoughts?

http://wschange.com/deleted/2013/04/05/millardairmro.com

The Nov 17 waybackmachine provides bare bones. Later caches are just plain odd. IMO

http://web.archive.org/web/20121117002736/http://www.millardairmro.com/

Later caches reflect the fact that the domain was deleted earlier.

Sounds like DM definitely threw in the towel on MA just before he went out truck-hunting. Very interesting coincidence.

 

[Alethea Dice]

What's the deal here? MillardAir had set up a website called millardairmro.com to promote the new MRO, but that domain was deleted on May 5, 2013, just one day before the now infamous "test drive". Co-inkydink? Thoughts?

http://wschange.com/deleted/2013/04/05/millardairmro.com

The Nov 17 waybackmachine provides bare bones. Later caches are just plain odd. IMO

http://web.archive.org/web/20121117002736/http://www.millardairmro.com/

I believe that's April 5th, not May 5th.

 

[Alethea Dice]

Later caches reflect the fact that the domain was deleted earlier.

Sounds like DM definitely threw in the towel on MA just before he went out truck-hunting. Very interesting coincidence.

I thought it was reported that he threw in the towel right after his father died. I don't know why it would be an issue that the domain wasn't deleted until 4 months later. It wouldn't have been high on my priority list since there was no business anyway.

 

[Tamarind]

Later caches reflect the fact that the domain was deleted earlier.

Sounds like DM definitely threw in the towel on MA just before he went out truck-hunting. Very interesting coincidence.

How do you know it was DM that shutdown the website? We already know that someone else was behind the domain name, and using the dell millard hotmail account.

Maybe it just shut down when the year expired for hosting, as websites do?

 

[SnooperDuper]

I thought it was reported that he threw in the towel right after his father died. I don't know why it would be an issue that the domain wasn't deleted until 4 months later. It wouldn't have been high on my priority list since there was no business anyway.

records go back to 10/27/2011 for the domain http://whois.domaintools.com/millardairmro.com so the domain did not expire on its natural anniversary. Someone actively went and cancelled it (and at a rate of $10/year, tax deductible as an advertising expense, you wonder why it was even a priority)

 

[Tamarind]

records go back to 10/27/2011 for the domain http://whois.domaintools.com/millardairmro.com so the domain did not expire on its natural anniversary. Someone actively went and cancelled it (and at a rate of $10/year, tax deductible as an advertising expense, you wonder why it was even a priority)

It doesn't say that 10/27/2011 was the date the website was hosted. It just says 20 records have been archived since 2011-10-27.

When we look at http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/MA-94, this site shows a date of 2012-06-05 which is close to the other date at :
http://wschange.com/deleted/2013/04/05/millardairmro.com just a year earlier and the other person connected to this was obviously the one dealing with it IMO. So it is quite possible that the 4th of the 5th month in 2013 and the 6th of the 5th month in 2012 were around the anniversary of hosting. IMO

 

[Sillybilly]

Not sure what, if anything, we can glean from it, but here's a hosting history for millardairmro.com

 

[Carli]

I believe that's April 5th, not May 5th.

Yes, I think you're right, AD. A closer look at other dates at that website indicate they use a date convention YR-MO-DA, so that gives us a deletion date of April 5, 2013.

 

[Carli]

How do you know it was DM that shutdown the website? We already know that someone else was behind the domain name, and using the dell millard hotmail account.

Maybe it just shut down when the year expired for hosting, as websites do?

My point exactly. As I recall the domain contact was a millardair employee who lives in Brantford?

 

[SnooperDuper]

My point exactly. As I recall the domain contact was a millardair employee who lives in Brantford?

No it was DM's hotmail account, therefore DM.