I can name more than ten....click on these links that I started on FFJ...about John and Patsy's things that were out of place. It comes straight from their interviews.
http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8589&highlight=Patsy+Ramsey+unusual+place
http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8635
This may have been posted before, but I wanted to highlight a bunch of things that Patsy said was either out of place, or she just flat out didn't know how it got there. I am a newbie from another board, and I posted these over there....so, I am sorry if this is a repeat for you guys. Heres the first one...
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2 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh (yes). Binoculars, a
3 stapler and... binoculars and a stapler
4 (inaudible).
5 TOM HANEY: Do those items appear to be out
6 of place?
7 PATSY RAMSEY:
I mean, I don't know why the
8 binoculars would be there.
9 TRIP DeMUTH: Do you recognize the
10 binoculars?
11 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, they might kind of
12 look like --
they look kind of like one John had
13 on the sailboat which are night vision or
14 something, they were kind of heavy duty, but I
15 don't know for sure.
I don't know why they
16 would be in Colorado.17 He had all this stuff up in, the white
18 stuff up in the -- he had like a storage room of
19 sails and stuff like that. I don't know why
20 they would be here if they are, if that's what
21 those are.
22 We had a pair of binoculars up on the
23 dress -- the high boy up in John Andrew's room,
24 more like in a leather case, like a leather
25 binocular case.
She states that her husband owned a pair of night vision binoculars and that there were an ordinary pair in the guest bedroom. What exactly is your point, with regard to Patsy Ramsey? They did not belong to her, so why should she know that much about them?
And in this portion of the interview, she is trying to distance herself from the kleenex box that was on the table with the pineapple and the tea. Sooo...an intruder brought in his own rope, tape and kleenexes. Yeah, right...Patsy. It seems that EVERYTHING was "out of place" in that house when JB was murdered.
TRIP DeMUTH: What about that box of
7 Kleenex that's on the table?
8 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
9 TRIP DeMUTH: Is that supposed to be there?
10 PATSY RAMSEY: Not really, no, I don't
11 think so.12 TRIP DeMUTH: Do you know where that came
13 from, where that's supposed to be?
14 PATSY RAMSEY: No. I mean, I had Kleenex
15 around, usually in the kitchen, with a box in
16 the bathroom.
17 TRIP DeMUTH: Was there a box of Kleenex in
18 that dining room at all?
19 PATSY RAMSEY: I just -- not that I
20 remember.
It's unusual that Kleenex would be
21 there.22 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay. Got a blue, green
23 floral pattern on the box. Does that go to a
24 particular room?
25 PATSY RAMSEY:
No, I don't, I don't
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1 remember that box.2 TRIP DeMUTH: When you say you don't
3 remember that box, what does that mean?
4 PATSY RAMSEY: I mean, I don't remember
5 that particular box, that design of that box of
6 Kleenex.
7 TRIP DeMUTH: That could be your box of
8 Kleenex, though, from somewhere in the house?
9 PATSY RAMSEY: It could be, but I don't
10 remember.
Usually I buy those little square
11 boxes.12 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay.
13 PATSY RAMSEY: Because they just fit places
14 better.
She was asked if the box of tissues were supposed to be there. If she had put them there, has part of staging [Why???] why not just say yes?
She stated that she normally kept a small box in the bathroom, because they fit places better. Question answered.
What about the pictures of JB that were found in the laundry room? I guess that the "intruder" placed them there, because THEY were "out of place" too.
10 TRIP DeMUTH: And do you remember
11 photographs being -- photographs of JonBenet
12 being in there?
13 PATSY RAMSEY: Taken of her in the
14 laundry room?
15 TRIP DeMUTH: No, no. Photographs
16 of her located in the laundry room?
17 PATSY RAMSEY: Oh, in the laundry
18 room, oh. I don't know, there was a bunch of
19 stuff, I mean wrapping stuff and everything.
I
20 don't remember any photographs. 21 TRIP DeMUTH: Is there any reason
22 why there would be photographs of JonBenet
23 located in the laundry room?
24 PATSY RAMSEY: No. Were there --
25 I mean, did somebody find them there?
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1 TRIP DeMUTH: If there were, would
2 that be out of place for you?
3 PATSY RAMSEY: It would seem to be
4 out of place. I kept wrapping materials and
5 sometimes I worked, wrapping station, Christmas
6 paper and --
7 TRIP DeMUTH: Would -- who else had
8 access to the laundry room, who else would go in
9 there? I know everybody would have access, but
10 who else would use it? Would the boys play in
11 there? Would John go down there?
12 PATSY RAMSEY: I mean anybody
13 could, but I mean the boys could come down and
14 go in the train room, we had the train set up.
15 In the far back in through there, you know. Not
16 in the laundry, really, area.
17 TRIP DeMUTH: Did anybody besides
18 you use that laundry room?
19 PATSY RAMSEY: Sometimes Linda
20 would wash, if we were washing comforters or
21 something, because those were big heavy-duty
22 laundry machines, she'd take the things in
23 there, rugs and things, and wash them down
24 there.
25 TRIP DeMUTH: Okay.
And the staging of her putting photographs there, would achieve exactly what purpose?
And the bathroom drawers were left open. Guess the "intruder" somehow managed to get into the bathroom to Patsy's and John's bedroom, too.
15 THOMAS HANEY: 32?
16 PATSY RAMSEY: That's the bathroom
17 to my bedroom.
18 THOMAS HANEY: Is that normally
19 used by anybody?
20 PATSY RAMSEY: Not on a day-to-day
21 basis, not really.
I don't know why the drawers
22 would have been out, but...
23 THOMAS HANEY: What's normally
24 stored in those?
25 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, that's usually
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1 where I kept my supplies for my -- when I was
2 taking chemo, when I had my shots and my little
3 alcohol wipes, thermometers, and all that kind
4 of stuff. And I could have been looking
5 through, looking for a thermometer to take on
6 vacation.
7 TRIP DeMUTH: What's in the draw
8 below that one? There are two drawers open?
9 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't know, I
10 don't know. I just hadn't used it, all that
11 area, that much.
12 THOMAS HANEY: Okay. Number 33.
13 PATSY RAMSEY: This is the shot of
14 the bedroom, looking out through the door to her
15 door.
16 THOMAS HANEY: Anything unusual or
17 out of place or --
18 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
19 THOMAS HANEY: 34?
20 PATSY RAMSEY:
I just can't imagine
21 why I would leave those open if I had done --
22 THOMAS HANEY: The drawers that you
23 were talking about earlier?
24 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-hum.
25 VOICE: That's 34?
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1 PATSY RAMSEY: Yes.
2 TRIP DeMUTH: Did you have syringes
3 in there?
4 PATSY RAMSEY: I would have at one
5 time. Now, whether I had any in there now, I
6 don't remember. Seems like I got rid of all
7 that stuff. With kids around. I don't know. I
8 just wasn't in there that much. I can't tell
9 you.
The subject of the open drawers was raised a few years ago by another poster, who wondered why they were pulled out in that sequence. They had been pulled out from the bottom upwards. It was stated by someone, that this method is favoured by burglars, because it speeds up a search.
Patsy Ramsey, commented immediately about them being left open - before being asked.
This is really fun, finding all of these things that Patsy said was "out of place". Although, I have found ALOT more, its my bedtime, so I will post more of them tomorrow. In the meantime...heres, yet, another one.
3 PATSY RAMSEY: There. There is a tiny
4 yellowish color there. Can you see that?
5 I'm not sure if that is one of my kitchen
6 knives, to tell you the truth. That must be something.
7 TOM HANEY: We would have that.
8 PATSY RAMSEY: I could see that. In the
9 picture it looks like it is a very thin blade, like a
10 grapefruit knife or something.
11 TOM HANEY: What about the handle?
12 PATSY RAMSEY: I had some wooden handle
13 knives, but I don't know why I would have it there in
14 the kitchen, you know. I don't know why it is there.
June 25th 1998
Subject: The Breakfast Room [Off kitchen, where wooden handled knife was found]
" ... is this where you make your meals normally?"
Reply:
"Yeah."
14 THOMAS HANEY: Was there a ceiling
15 fixture lamp in that room?
16 PATSY RAMSEY: (INAUDIBLE.) I
17 think there was a -- was there a (INAUDIBLE).
18 THOMAS HANEY: I am sorry?
19 PATSY RAMSEY: Was there a fan, was
20 there a fan there? I think there was an
21 (INAUDIBLE). I think there was.
22 THOMAS HANEY: We might be able to
23 see it later.
24 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't remember
25 whether there was a light.0252
1 THOMAS HANEY: That wasn't a light?
2 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't remember.
And they lived in this house for HOW LONG? She can't remember if JB had a ceiling fan in her room, she THINKS that there was, but doesn't remember if it had lights on it, or not.
And who was it, who actually brought the subject of a fan up, may I ask?
9 TRIP DeMUTH: Do you keep
10 videotapes in that room?
11 PATSY RAMSEY: There was some
12 videos in this cabinet here, mostly ones that
13 were older, you know, that the kids used more
14 when they were really young, with Barney and
15 those kind of things.
I don't know why those
16 would be on the floor.
And here we have videotapes out of place
Just a guess, but I would say that someone put them there, who should not have been there, or are you suggesting that this was yet another staging. If so, it would be very pointless don't you think?
9 TRIP DEMUTH: That is in photo 204 there is
10 some scrape mark toward the bottom of the doorjamb.
11 PATSY RAMSEY: Where the dog could have
12 scratched.
13 TRIP DEMUTH: 205.
14 PATSY RAMSEY: That is all chipped out.
15 TOM HANEY: Is that unusual?
16 PATSY RAMSEY: It looks unusual to me. I
17 didn't do it.
More unusual and out of place things...
Why did she add that it appeared to have been chipped out? She could have simply left things with the dog{?}
8 TOM HANEY: You are looking at 252 now, that
9 is just a little closer photo above where -- was it
10 248, and there is, you pointed out the suitcase.
11 PATSY RAMSEY: Right.
12 TOM HANEY: Can you tell us anything about
13 that?
14 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, that wasn't one of the
15 suitcases that I normally use. We use the roller ones.
16 I think that is one that John Andrew had brought over
17 from his college stuff, you know, like unpacked and
18 brought the suitcase over to our house,
but I didn't
19 think it was in there. I thought it was back in --
20 back there toward the cellar room more, back in the
21 (inaudible).
22 TRIP DEMUTH: Let's pull out a diagram.
23 TOM HANEY: We don't have a basement here.
24 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, somewhere back like kind
25 of over in here, by the -- where the hot water heater
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1 area was is another little area. I thought it was more
2 in here. Unless Linda moved it over here when she put
3 the paint stuff there, I don't know.
That looks out of
4 place.
Patsy, is there ANYTHING in your house that wasn't out of place after JB's murder??
Not if someone is there - but not meant to be there.
3 TRIP DEMUTH: Okay. 400 we've looked at
4 before, a different angle.
5 PATSY RAMSEY: Right. That is down in the
6 basement.
It is like cotton or something. 7 TRIP DEMUTH: Do you know what that is?
8 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't know why cotton would
9 be there.
10 TRIP DEMUTH: You don't recognize it?
11 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
12 TRIP DEMUTH: It doesn't mean anything to
13 you?
14 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
15 TRIP DEMUTH: Okay. Tom.
16 TOM HANEY: Do you ever remember seeing it in
17 there?
18 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
She is even distancing herself from cotton that was found in the basement.
See above.
Didn't mean to wear you out, Callan.