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hahaha, I haven't finished reading the whole thing yet.
I read the first few pages and the conclusion.
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hahaha, I haven't finished reading the whole thing yet.
"Prosecutors said the Hammonds set a fire that burned about 130 acres in 2001, to cover up poaching. They were sentenced to five years in prison."...
..."The Hammonds, who are set to turn themselves in Monday afternoon, have said they set the fire to reduce the growth of invasive plants and to protect their property from wildfires, CNN affiliate KTVZ reported."
[video=cnn;us/2016/01/03/oregon-armed-protesters-occupy-federal-land-sandoval-dnt.cnn]http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/03/us/oregon-wildlife-refuge-protest/index.html[/video]
Trying to figure out the crux of the argument.
Just a small bit of the decision:
http://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...02/12/hammond-cert2-br_in_opp-osg_aay_v2b.pdf
The fire quickly raged out of control, trapping
Dusty near a creek and forcing others who were
camping and hunting in the area to flee. Pet. App. 3;
C.A. E.R. 97-100, 158-159, 207. Dusty thought he
“was going to get burned up” by the 8-to-10-foot-high
flames, but the 13-year-old managed to escape on his
own. C.A. E.R. 207. The fire damaged 139 acres of
federal land and required that the tract be removed
from production for two growing seasons. Pet. App. 3;
C.A. E.R. 287-289.
The fire destroyed any evidence of petitioners’ illegal
deer hunt. C.A. E.R. 248-250. Petitioners then
attempted to cover up their arson. When Dusty made
it back to the ranch after escaping the fire, Dwight
and Steven both ordered him to “keep [his] mouth
shut” about what they had done
Ew. Get these <modsnip> wanna-be terrorists OUT of my state, please.
Ritzheimer's a known member of a terrorist organization (white nationalist) and he's not even FROM here.
But seriously, an armed takeover of a wildlife refuge? Are they taking it over from the prairie dogs?
Ew. Get these <modsnip> wanna-be terrorists OUT of my state, please.
Ritzheimer's a known member of a terrorist organization (white nationalist) and he's not even FROM here.
But seriously, an armed takeover of a wildlife refuge? Are they taking it over from the prairie dogs?
Forgive my ignorance but who *are* these guys? Upthread someone said one of them is a known white supremacist. Are they all?
I don't really understand what they stand for. Are they like the Aryan Brotherhood types who hole up in the hills with tons of guns and think the govt is somehow out to get them? Basically domestic terrorists like Tim McVeigh and friends?
The BLM is trying to take land from many people and every one is mad. The media is making it appear they are crazy loons and it seems people dont care as long as it isnt there property being taken or their rights being imposed on.
That is the simple version .
I can understand the desire to protest that, it is a valid reason to protest.
But armed takeovers of a federal facility is not protest. That is hostile takeover, an act of terroristic aggression. JMO.
Well it could be a responce to the BLM employee torching on of the landowners homes. Not sure but maybe.
To be clear, in this situation BLM refers to Bureau of Land Management, correct?