Yes there are. I was looking up burlap on You tube and there was only garden info and then that video. It's premise and year produced was morbid in a sense.
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Yes there are. I was looking up burlap on You tube and there was only garden info and then that video. It's premise and year produced was morbid in a sense.
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Is there a photo anywhere of an actual burlap bag found with a victim?
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is that burlap black or is that just from decomp? I may have mentioned it before but animal feed came in burlap. Not sure if it still does. Also, lime is used in the animals stalls/barns under their bedding to eliminate the urine smell. the feed store delivers it to us all the time.
It looks like black plastic with sand on it
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To me it looks like the black plastic "burlap" that animal feed comes in... Gunna look for a link
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Sorry if i included incorrect or expired link, lots of info in this link ( probably already posted way back) about the burlap sacks.
Refresher..
https://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/...is-dismembered-victims-bodies-on-gilgo-beach/
Refresher..
https://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/...is-dismembered-victims-bodies-on-gilgo-beach/
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I just came across a news story while researching in school law library on the burlap sacks...
Im posting the link where I found it but not sure if anyone besides myself can access it? So I posted just the important info from the story in case the link is not working.
http://libraryproxy.tulsacc.edu:212...ormal&activityType=&failOverType=&commentary=
New York Post (New York, NY), April 27, 2011
Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy is furious with Police Commissioner Richard Dormer for publicly releasing crucial details of the investigation that only the murderer would know, a police source said.
"Levy's upset, [Dormer] gave out too much information about the burlap bags, that the victims were all on Craigslist, that they were prostitutes," ... "[Dormer] embarrassed the department."
reference material:
"AX FOR LI COMMISH - 'BUNGLED' SUFFOLK SERIAL-SLAY PROBE." New York Post [New York, NY], 27 Apr. 2011, p. 17. Biography in Context, link.galegroup.com/apps/doc/A254848761/BIC1?u=odl_tcc&xid=1b66d86b. Accessed 14 Dec. 2016.
And the photo above looks exactly like black plastic, with sand, you can see the shiny reflection of light on it.
Im posting the link where I found it but not sure if anyone besides myself can access it? So I posted just the important info from the story in case the link is not working.
http://libraryproxy.tulsacc.edu:212...ormal&activityType=&failOverType=&commentary=
New York Post (New York, NY), April 27, 2011
Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy is furious with Police Commissioner Richard Dormer for publicly releasing crucial details of the investigation that only the murderer would know, a police source said.
"Levy's upset, [Dormer] gave out too much information about the burlap bags, that the victims were all on Craigslist, that they were prostitutes," ... "[Dormer] embarrassed the department."
reference material:
"AX FOR LI COMMISH - 'BUNGLED' SUFFOLK SERIAL-SLAY PROBE." New York Post [New York, NY], 27 Apr. 2011, p. 17. Biography in Context, link.galegroup.com/apps/doc/A254848761/BIC1?u=odl_tcc&xid=1b66d86b. Accessed 14 Dec. 2016.
And the photo above looks exactly like black plastic, with sand, you can see the shiny reflection of light on it.
The photo of the bag provided by poster Salsa, is discussed and blown up in HG's post,below.
In the magnified photo, it appears more burlap like than plastic in this pic. Maybe a plastic bag is contained within the burlap and poking out? speculation.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?149663-Burlap-and-Forensics&p=12969700#post12969700
In the magnified photo, it appears more burlap like than plastic in this pic. Maybe a plastic bag is contained within the burlap and poking out? speculation.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?149663-Burlap-and-Forensics&p=12969700#post12969700
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Hard to determine what is shown in that picture, it could almost be anything.
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Is all of this true?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/pibill...o-these-bags/amp/?client=ms-android-sprint-us
https://www.google.com/amp/s/pibill...o-these-bags/amp/?client=ms-android-sprint-us
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I've never read that any of the GB4 were dismembered. Are there any credible links or accounts that back this up? It could make sense from a transportation angle. And how were they cut up? Anyone untrained in anatomy would just sever the bodies anywhere convenient.
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I myself would like to know where Mr Bill Warner gets his claims from. I'm hoping some other sleuthers can help with more detail.
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Look at the bag pictures shown a few posts up. Is that a shoe outline in the bottom of the bag?
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It does not mean, that the PD office found something related to the case. The photograph would give away quite some info. Slim chance.
http://www.maxim.com/maxim-man/long-island-murder-mystery
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To be placed in bags that small, the bodies had to be dismembered, i'm afraid. And for transportation and disposal, it would be more convenient.
Didn't one of GB4's mom said the cadaver was "gutted"?
So sad and disturbing how someone could treat those poor childs as if getting rid of garbage, and clearly, the person who did it's not a rookie at hiding his sins, and placing them where it would be found and connected to anybody but him.
Sorry, can't stop thinking it is all Bilttrolff. I think he is LISK and Manorville Butcher.
Shannan I can't explain, but I hurt for what happened to her, to her mom and her family :tears:
Didn't one of GB4's mom said the cadaver was "gutted"?
So sad and disturbing how someone could treat those poor childs as if getting rid of garbage, and clearly, the person who did it's not a rookie at hiding his sins, and placing them where it would be found and connected to anybody but him.
Sorry, can't stop thinking it is all Bilttrolff. I think he is LISK and Manorville Butcher.
Shannan I can't explain, but I hurt for what happened to her, to her mom and her family :tears:
If it is true that they were dismembered, its a game changer for everything.
It'd make it more likely that LISK and the Manorville Butcher are one and the same.
While making it less likely SG was a victim of LISK.
I'm with Angela, there is a massive massive red flag for Bittrolff that I can't ignore.
It'd make it more likely that LISK and the Manorville Butcher are one and the same.
While making it less likely SG was a victim of LISK.
I'm with Angela, there is a massive massive red flag for Bittrolff that I can't ignore.
[video=youtube;SqmreS0pxw4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqmreS0pxw4[/video]
The person that found the body in the water featured in the video is called John Genua and lives fairly close to the dumpsite (lives in lynbrook and previously levittown next to Massapequa)
https://www.facebook.com/john.genua
Works at:
http://www.rotaxmetals.net/ based in brooklyn new york.
"Whether you are a manufacturer looking to fabricate, an architectural designer seeking the perfect copper or brass part for your furniture design, or a distributor, Rotax Metals has what you are looking for."
Working in this role he would have access to burlap sacks:
Burlap bags are used to Ship and store metal parts and hardware.
https://www.uline.com/BL_227/Burlap-Bags
Previously worked at Fed ex ground again having easy access to burlap bags.
Appears to be fascinated with horror movies and has his own band called "brothers grim"
Plus a youtube comment on the video where he finds a body in the water says "he doesn't look like satan"?
Worth checking this guy out....
The person that found the body in the water featured in the video is called John Genua and lives fairly close to the dumpsite (lives in lynbrook and previously levittown next to Massapequa)
https://www.facebook.com/john.genua
Works at:
http://www.rotaxmetals.net/ based in brooklyn new york.
"Whether you are a manufacturer looking to fabricate, an architectural designer seeking the perfect copper or brass part for your furniture design, or a distributor, Rotax Metals has what you are looking for."
Working in this role he would have access to burlap sacks:
Burlap bags are used to Ship and store metal parts and hardware.
https://www.uline.com/BL_227/Burlap-Bags
Previously worked at Fed ex ground again having easy access to burlap bags.
Appears to be fascinated with horror movies and has his own band called "brothers grim"
Plus a youtube comment on the video where he finds a body in the water says "he doesn't look like satan"?
Worth checking this guy out....
A petite woman can fit into a burlap bag. I'm 5' tall and weigh 100 lbs. I got into a burlap bag with some room to spare. Providing the victims were not in rigor, I believe it was doable. Plus we don't know if the victims were wrapped in burlap or placed into burlap sacs. We've heard it stated in different reports both ways. Surely, they could be wrapped even more easily in burlap cloth.
We do not factually know if the GB4 were dismembered, so I don't want rumors or speculation to become false fact. For all we know the victims may have been dismembered and perhaps it was holdback that leaked out. But until we know for sure either way I want to help try to eliminate rumors going astray.
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We do not factually know if the GB4 were dismembered, so I don't want rumors or speculation to become false fact. For all we know the victims may have been dismembered and perhaps it was holdback that leaked out. But until we know for sure either way I want to help try to eliminate rumors going astray.
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