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Hi there! Thanks! <modsnip> I'm no expert, just an observer, but I try to know the facts and reasons behind the things I observe...as such:
Landfill sites are pretty unsecured. The entrance to Milton has a low metal gate. The one I worked at has a similar gate. I think you'd find varying degrees of CCTV too, the one I worked at probably around the buildings, from the look of Milton, maybe 1 in the yard and that's about it. I'm no expert, but my rule of thumb, if the Google Earth car can get into a landfill site, you or me can. The level of detection is also somewhat low, especially if you do not use the official entrance. Think of it like an unmanned nature reserve... full of waste. From what I can tell, any obstacle you do face, can be easily overcome.
As for the compactor, I think we have a possible third misconception there. In the (landfill) waste industry a compactor can also be one of these:
And here we see exactly one of those "compactors" working on the Corrie investigation:
Something else does match for a 55 ton compactor, one of these, but looking at google earth, I can't see anything like this, or even a slightly smaller one, on site anywhere. So I'm guessing when they talk about a compactor, they're talking about the big blue tractor machine. You can also just see on the right that sort of netting fence, which is typical around a landfill, as being the "security" if you will - maybe a moat as well - although it's really there to stop litter blowing off site. That doesn't always work, hence why I had a job at one for 4 months...
^ a traditional compactor
But ah yes, just checked and here's the weight of the tractor compactor in the first image, 55 tonne.
Operating Weight 55927.0 kg
Gross Power 419.0 kW Net Power
370.0 kW
Source: http://www.cat.com/en_GB/products/new/equipment/compactors/landfill-compactors.html
I don't think they're talking about the traditional compactor like the yellow boxy one above. They're talking about the tractor machine variant. It's a 55 ton compactor in numerous photos of the Corrie investigation. There's little signs of a traditional compactor on site, and this could be easily verified by a local, because such a thing would be in the yard, not out on the landfill.
So to answer the question, when you take the above into consideration, the compactor is part of the process post-dumping on the actual landfill. If you're not informed on what the "compactor" is you might assume it occurs during the waste transfer process, but I don't think that's the case.
PS. These machines are still huge, you can see the guys inside and how small the seat looks compared in the pic above! I can see now and am reminded how you probably wouldn't know what waste you're churning at the front of it.
PPS. Thanks Cherwell for the details, I hadn't known then, that they have been able to do things with certain precision. Interesting then, that they have come this far without finding anything with a pretty good idea of the on-site location.
Landfill sites are pretty unsecured. The entrance to Milton has a low metal gate. The one I worked at has a similar gate. I think you'd find varying degrees of CCTV too, the one I worked at probably around the buildings, from the look of Milton, maybe 1 in the yard and that's about it. I'm no expert, but my rule of thumb, if the Google Earth car can get into a landfill site, you or me can. The level of detection is also somewhat low, especially if you do not use the official entrance. Think of it like an unmanned nature reserve... full of waste. From what I can tell, any obstacle you do face, can be easily overcome.
As for the compactor, I think we have a possible third misconception there. In the (landfill) waste industry a compactor can also be one of these:
And here we see exactly one of those "compactors" working on the Corrie investigation:
Something else does match for a 55 ton compactor, one of these, but looking at google earth, I can't see anything like this, or even a slightly smaller one, on site anywhere. So I'm guessing when they talk about a compactor, they're talking about the big blue tractor machine. You can also just see on the right that sort of netting fence, which is typical around a landfill, as being the "security" if you will - maybe a moat as well - although it's really there to stop litter blowing off site. That doesn't always work, hence why I had a job at one for 4 months...
^ a traditional compactor
But ah yes, just checked and here's the weight of the tractor compactor in the first image, 55 tonne.
Operating Weight 55927.0 kg
Gross Power 419.0 kW Net Power
370.0 kW
Source: http://www.cat.com/en_GB/products/new/equipment/compactors/landfill-compactors.html
I don't think they're talking about the traditional compactor like the yellow boxy one above. They're talking about the tractor machine variant. It's a 55 ton compactor in numerous photos of the Corrie investigation. There's little signs of a traditional compactor on site, and this could be easily verified by a local, because such a thing would be in the yard, not out on the landfill.
So to answer the question, when you take the above into consideration, the compactor is part of the process post-dumping on the actual landfill. If you're not informed on what the "compactor" is you might assume it occurs during the waste transfer process, but I don't think that's the case.
PS. These machines are still huge, you can see the guys inside and how small the seat looks compared in the pic above! I can see now and am reminded how you probably wouldn't know what waste you're churning at the front of it.
PPS. Thanks Cherwell for the details, I hadn't known then, that they have been able to do things with certain precision. Interesting then, that they have come this far without finding anything with a pretty good idea of the on-site location.
