GUILTY UK - Jordan Burling, 18, Died Weighing Less Than 6 Stone, Body Of Baby Also Found, Leeds, June 2016

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dalsglen said:
Eating cheeseburgers and out playing football the day before... aye ok! Not the smartest folks these ones eh
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I don't know what kind of delusional parallel world they're living in.

When did Jordan turn 18? I'm thinking any and all state financial assistance for him would have stopped then without some serious form-filling and assessment. Could that be when this went from neglect toeffective abandonment? He wasn't bringing anything in so he could just starve?

I think we all know what the deal will have been with the diarrhoea drugs.

How in heck did these people avoid scrutiny? They must have had neighbours.
 
Holy h@ll, what did I just read?!! What a horrible way to treat ANY human let alone a family member.
The only thing I don’t understand is how and when it all really started? Was it an eating disorder in the beginning ?
My G-d what horrifying, cold, uncaring people.
I didn’t think anything could shock me anymore but this....
 
10:34
Day six of the trial due to begin
Our court reporter Stephanie Finnegan is at Leeds Crown Court for day six of the trial.

Today the evidence from Abigail Burling’s police interview will continue and the court will also hear evidence from a dietician.


10:36
Trial resumes
The trial has resumed.
The jury will hear the rest of Abigail Burling’s police interviews and are also due to hear evidence from a dietician, who is expected to compare Jordan to a World War Two concentration camp victim, as well as evidence from an ulcer specialist nurse and a dentist.

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12:13
Dawn Cranston was depressed by Jordan's death
Chloe Fairley, prosecuting, and DC Ian Broadbent, of West Yorkshire Police’s Homicide and Major Enquiry Team, are reading Abigail Burling’s second police interview to the jury.

Abigail Burling said that:

  • Autism runs in the family
  • Jordan’s paternal uncle Karl Cranston, who lived in the house in Butterbowl Garth, was autistic
  • Jordan wanted bunkbeds so he could use a sheet to create a ‘den’ in the bottom bunk
  • Dawn Cranston slept on Jordan’s top bunk
  • Denise Cranston, who had sciatica, didn’t work
  • After her husband’s suicide, Denise Cranston would have panic attacks when she went upstairs so she would sleep downstairs
  • Denise Cranston started buying flowers after her husband’s suicide to make the house look nicer
  • Dawn Cranston was depressed after her father’s suicide and coped by buying lots of Converse shoes
  • Jordan was a hoarder too
  • Dawn Cranston became depressed again after Jordan’s death
She also told police that she moved to Hunslet with her ex-partner in 2011 but after she gave birth to her daughter they moved house and her ex sold all of her and her daughter’s belonging. She then said she was a full-time mum who was unemployed.

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I thought 'anti-diarrhea' tablets was an odd phrase. I guess they mean laxatives or some other digestive aid.

12:22
'I just wish I was there more for my brother'
During Abigail Burling’s fourth police interview, she said:

“I’m really scared that I lost my brother and it’s really weird that I’m here [in the police station].

I just wish I was there more for my brother.

I just wanted him to get special help but he wouldn’t.”


12:27
Abigail Burling claims Jordan decided to stop using the toilet
Abigail Burling told police her brother took his grandmother’s ‘digestive’ tablets twice a day to treat his constipation, but he stopped doing this around February 2016.

She then said that Jordan told her that he stopped using the toilet because he wanted to.

She was asked: ‘If your daughter was in this state and she didn’t want you to call the doctor, what would you do?’

She replied: ‘I still would [call the doctor].’


12:28
'We'll do it tomorrow'
Abigail Burling told police that Dawn Cranston said she wouldphone a doctor when she got a day off, but she didn’t have a day off work in six or seven months.

She also said that Denise Cranston would say ‘we’ll do it tomorrow’.

After being told that a post-mortem would examine Jordan’s stomach contents, she changed her story to say that he had only eaten half of his McDonald’s meal the night before his death.

12:29
Jordan 'was NOT playing football night before his death'

Miss Fairley said that during the first police interview when Abigail Burling had a solicitor present she answered ‘no comment’ to all questions asked with the exception of one.

When asked about what she said about Jordan playing football the night before her death, she told the officers that she can been confused and was referring to her first memory of Jordan and her daughter playing together.

13:06
Statement from forensic examiner
Miss Fairley has read two statements from a forensic medical examiner who assessed Dawn Cranston at Elland Road Police Station.

In the statement, he said that she told him on August 3, 2016:

  • she worked part-time at Poundland for five years before Jordan’s death;
  • she had been working the night before Jordan died and stayed an hour later than scheduled;
  • the family’s house had a freezer and two fridges and she did a ‘massive shop’ costing up to £250 every two-four weeks;
  • her father suffered from depression and had come off his tablets, she had talked to him a few hours before his suicide, he hanged himself in the room next to her, her mother found his body;
  • she saw her GP after her father’s death in 2006 and had taken anti-depressants for a year, which she felt made her feel worse;
  • recently her sleep had been fragmented, but her mood was fine;
  • she was occasionally tearful, ‘with grieving and stuff like that’;
  • she had not self-harmed.

13:08
Header: Dawn Cranston was 'emotionally flat' discussing father's suicide
In the statement, he said that she told him on January 17, 2017:

  • she would wash her hair three or four times a week;
  • she only had a few friends;
  • she got along with her neighbours;
  • she spends a lot of time with her brother Karl Cranston who has an ‘autism-like disorder’ with an intellectual impairment;
  • she cried at her father’s funeral;
  • her weight was always variable;
  • she felt ‘sad and stressed’ with everything that was going on;
  • she had fleeting thoughts of self-harm;
  • she had not seen her granddaughter in month.
On that occasion, he remarked that she remained emotionally separate from her speech and, referring to her father’s suicide, that she remained emotionally flat through the description of what must have been ‘a harrowing time’.
In reference to her father’s death, she said he ‘had some tablets, hung himself - that’s how he died’ and ‘mum found him, came into me, night-time, a blur’.

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13:48
Grandmother says 'I've seen too many people die'
Miss Fairley has read two statements from a forensic medical examiner who assessed Denise Cranston at Elland Road Police Station.In the statement,he said that she told him onAugust 3, 2016:

  • she is not religious;
  • she has sciatica, she is always ill, her memory was possibly impaired and Alzheimer’s runs in the family;
  • her mother died in 1992 from heart problems and her father died on Christmas Eve from old age;
  • “I am scared of dying, seen too many people die, I was there when my parents died”;
  • she seen her husband two hours before she found him dead;
  • she cared for her son Karl Cranston, a 46-year-old man with learning difficulties;
  • “I live for Christmas, the colour, the music - not the presents”.
During that interview, he observed that she used her fingers to work out her son’s age, appeared to be isolated from friends outside of her immediate family and was passionate about Leeds United.
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Legally Bland said:
Not sure if this is a typo or maybe that's it till Monday.
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From the court listings it looks as if there was more this afternoon and court adjourned at 16:03. I'm unclear whether that is until tomorrow morning or Monday morning, at 10:45.

Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 14 Continues - 14:20
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 14:45
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 15:11
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 15:25
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 15 Continues - 15:35
Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 15:54
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:45 - 16:03
 
An emaciated 18-year-old man who died in his Leeds home had the lowest body mass index (BMI) an experienced dietitian had ever seen, a court heard.

Leeds Crown Court heard height and weight measurements taken during his post-mortem examination revealed a BMI of 13.6, which is of "severe thinness".

The court heard evidence from Jacqueline Lowdon, an NHS dietitian of 26 years with experience of treating severe eating disorders.

No symptoms connected to eating conditions such as anorexia or bulimia were recorded in the victim's case and gastro-intestinal diseases including coeliac and Crohn's were also ruled out.

She estimated he had experienced "at least six months of malnutrition" and was satisfied there was "nothing medically" that could have caused his condition.

more to read at link

Teen had 'lowest BMI doctor had seen'
 
Legally Bland said:
Wow. I was convinced an eating disorder must have played a part in this.
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My thinking too. At least that's how it started out. I'm a bit confused too about the decline from his last independent visit to the bathroom and using nappies. That would be something most people would fight against so there must have been something that really frightened him I would think. If he had a problem with bowel movements did he decide to stop eating solid foods maybe.

I'm also not too sure about his intellectual capacity if that's the right way to word it.
 
I had not read about this case until today and frankly, I'm sorry I read this. I have no words for how awful this must be for the jury and the officers who have dealt with it. How on Earth could this have happened in the modern world is beyond me. Was no one a nosy neighbor?
 
Tortoise said:
I'm also not too sure about his intellectual capacity if that's the right way to word it.
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It's a difficult thing to word, but I think that is fine.

His Dad mentioned ''was 'a bit slow ", but that really doesn't explain his decline. He managed to get through school till the age of 16. I don't think he was totally helpless.

Unfortunately I do believe the bullying stories. Maybe not the frequency claimed though. I can't see the girl bully pouring orange juice on him every day. It probably happened, but every day? Nah.

As for the nappies, I could probably understand nappies as a failsafe if there were bowel problems, but not cleaning himself takes it to a whole new level of personal indignity.

I really don't know what to think.
 
I never thought for a minute he had any sort of eating disorder. Just saying that to remind that we can have different perceptions when reviewing the same evidence. No matter, sounds like we ALL want justice for the injustice Jordan suffered.
 
AzPistonsGirl said:
I never thought for a minute he had any sort of eating disorder. Just saying that to remind that we can have different perceptions when reviewing the same evidence. No matter, sounds like we ALL want justice for the injustice Jordan suffered.
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For me, there is a point before he became too incapacitated to move around and leave the house, when he must have been losing weight and on a decline to reach that stage. That seems to have been before Christmas when his dad's family noticed he was drawn in the face and his clothes were too big. I don't think there is another medical reason for him to have lost that much weight other than a restricted diet and possibly the pills he was taking, and that was at a stage before the mother and grandmother became responsible for his eating.
 
AzPistonsGirl said:
thanks. Yes, maybe no medical reason for him to have lost that much weight indeed.

Actually, wait, lol... I think there are other medical reasons that might explain rapid weight loss, no?

Maybe not in this case but there are other medical causes.
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Yes, but not in this case. Well according to the witness today that is.
 
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