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She does have an "interesting" attitude - and I acknowledge "interesting" is such a over-usesd, non-descriptive word, but I think not "seeing" her as she speaks complicates any analysis. She "sounds" tough; into health, fitness, gym rat. But it's definitely disturbing to listen to her interview and some of the laughter and joking going on.
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NK is lucky she doesn't live in North Carolina--I believe they still have "alienation of affection" laws down there. Ordinarily used by wives to sue mistresses I think the Rzuceks would have a slam-dunk case and any profits NK made from her sleazy tell-all book could go straight to the Rzucek's selected charities.
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Clear argument that NK knew SW was pregnant. Excellent and informative post, thank you!Pg 1887 (Discovery pg 2082).
8/4/2018 - NK Google searched for Chris and Shanann's Facebook accounts
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NK could have seen the following recent posts showing SW was pregnant, they had 2 girls and SW was still going on vacations with Chris, praising him and taking photos and videos with him:
June 9, 2018 picture of text SW got from Chris -- he calls SW "Baby":
Shanann Watts
June 10, 2018 picture of Bella and CeCe with chalkboard that says "Big Sister 101" and Caption:
Ready or not, Celeste....Here comes Baby Watts #3
Shanann Watts
June 11, 2018 pic with caption:
We had such an eventful weekend! 3 birthday parties, play dates, 3 thrive locals, concerts and more! 1st trimester is no joke! Today I’m packing the girls suitcase for our 6 week trip to NC! This should be fun! Then I need to pack mine! This will be harder since most wont fit. Then off to do a deep cleaning on house before the girls and I leave. Plus grocery shop for a “bachelor” for 5 weeks on his own and meal prep for him. A lot to do this week. Thankful for Thrive.
Not doing #burn!
#Doctorapproved
Shanann Watts
June 11, 2018 Picture of SW wearing the "Oops we did it again" shirt with caption:
How Chris found out.
Shanann Watts
June 11, 2018 Video announcing the pregnancy to Chris and facebook with "Oops we did it again" shirt: Shanann Watts
June 11, 2018 Video announcing to the girls that Shanann is pregnant. CW is silently videoing it as SW hugs her girls with both arms and the girls "hug the baby": Shanann Watts
June 13 2018 picture pickles:
Shanann Watts
June 14, 2018 Video ask Bella "How many babies to I have in my belly," Bella says 5. Chris protests loudly, "Whoa!" in the background: Shanann Watts
June 14, 2018 Video of Bella singing "My Daddy is a Hero" Shanann Watts
June 15 2018 picture of SW wearing a shirt that says "All I wanted was a back rub":
Shanann Watts
June 16 2018 pictures of Chris shirtless mowing the lawn:
Shanann Watts
Shanann Watts
June 16 2018 picture with the caption:
The last two pregnancy I never wanted to leave my house unless I had had too. This go around, I’m 4 years older and with two wild toddlers! I haven’t stopped! Saying yes to birthday party’s, going to friends house at 6pm at night, taking kids to parks and splash pads. I am in LOVE with this lifestyle of just Living and enjoying every moment with my family with out saying no, mommy is too tired! I’m addicted to creating memories and living life to it’s fullest.
Shanann Watts
June 17, 2018 picture of Chris and CeCe at a movie theater:
Shanann Watts
June 17, 2018 picture of Shannan, Bella, CeCe and Chris together at the movie theater:
Shanann Watts
June 17 2018 picture collage of family photos with the caption:
Chris, we are so incredibly blessed to have you! You do so much everyday for us and take such great care of us. You are the reason I was brave enough to agree to number 3! From Laundry to kids showers! You are incredible and we are so lucky to have you in our life! Happy Father’s Day!
Shanann Watts
June 17 2018 multiple wedding pictures of Shanann in her wedding dress with her dad:
Shanann Watts
Shanann Watts
Shanann Watts
June 17 2018 picture of CW wearing a shirt that says "I'm a proud dad of two awesome daughters who love the Steelers (and yes they bought me this shirt)."
Shanann Watts
June 18, 2018 picture with caption:
In less than 4 days Chris and I will be chillin on the Beach somewhere in San Diego! Much needed vacation before our trip to NC. #lifestylegetaway #pdforbylevel #vacation #sandiego
Shanann Watts
June 18, 2018 Video of a hail storm at their house. The girls are home. CW is there holding CeCe. SW mentions they are going to NC multiple time. She mentions Chris' truck getting beaten by hail. The girls have to go to sleep because of the NC trip coming up: Shanann Watts
June 19, 2018 Shanann posts "round 2" viedo of a hail storm at their house. She mentions the kids are at school. Then she talks about having a dr appointment to find out if she is having 1 baby or two. She uses "we" throughout and says "Chris and I are hoping for 1" baby. She says they won't find out if it is a boy yet, she says Chris wants a boy and she hopes it's a boy for him as that will make him happy: Shanann Watts
June 19 2018 Ultrasound picture with Chris saying "Little peanut! Love her/him already!" and the caption:
I love Chris! He’s the best dad us girls could ask for.
Shanann Watts
June 20, 2018 picture with SW holding a bottle. We can see her wedding ring and the caption:
So much to do today! But first I’m going to savor this Candy Cane Mix, which taste like mint ice cream shake.
Grocery shop for kids and dad for weekend
Pack kids and my clothes for 6 weeks in NC
Pack for Chris and I in San Diego.
Go buy a bathing suit
Clean house/laundry
Several calls today
Color my hair
1st Trimester and I’m full of energy and feel great! I love this!
In less than 2 days I will be sitting on beach in San Diego and It is Free!
Shanann Watts
June 21, 2018 picture of a sandwich with caption:
Steak and Cheddar Panini...Just What Baby Watts ordered! #sogood — eating breakfast at Panera Bread.
Shanann Watts
June 21, 2018 picture of SW wearing a shirt that says "I'm creating a tiny human, what have you done today"
Shanann Watts
June 22, 2018 San Diego Trip Video. SW shows off their room. There is only one bed. SW refers to it multiple times as "our room" and shows of "our view." When she pans to some restaurants she mentions she is starving and then corrects and says "I should say the baby is starving because I don't usually eat this early or this much," Throughout her talk she uses "we" and "us" then Chris is in the background, he say "What's up!" and she says he is helping her get the bag situated: Shanann Watts
June 23, 2018 San Diego "Flossin" Video. CW stands in the background talking to friends and stares at SW: Shanann Watts
June 23, 2018 picture of SW with CW with caption explaining how she affords going on vacations with CW by selling LeVel:
Shanann Watts
June 24, 2018 San Diego Cruise video. CW is there behind SW and waves: Shanann Watts
June 25, 2018 Video from the San Diego Trip. NU won her car bonus. SW pans the camera and CW is there: Shanann Watts
July 1 2018 picture of SW, CW, Bella and CeCe at the airport with their luggage:
Shanann Watts
July 1 2018 picture of the car with caption:
Chris deep cleaned my Lexus inside and out! #LuxuryAutoBonusEarner #PdForByLeVel
Shanann Watts
July 2 2018 picture of Bella and CeCe sleeping with caption:
My kids are out cold since 12:30. I think I should wake them now. It’s almost 3pm. #Winning #thrivinpreggomama
Shanann Watts
July 2, 2018 picture with caption:
Traveling with out kids is crazy, traveling with two toddlers and preggo is extremely crazy! Visiting with family is busy, especially when you haven’t seen some in over 3 years. It’s been a very busy, stressful, and fun! I’m sure glad I have Thrive right now. Keeping me calm, patient, energized, great sleep and happy! I’m winning!
Shanann Watts
July 3, 2018 picture with caption:
I’m surviving this HUMIDITY, bugs the size of birds and the hustle with kids and family. We have been going non stop for over a week, lots of new Thrivers and I’m 9.5 weeks preggo. I’m truly grateful for the mood support and patience I get from Thrive. #needtocolormyhair #sunkissed
July 5, 2018 video of the girls playing in the rain in NC. Shanann tells CeCe and Bella that "daddy is on here watching" them through the Facebook live post: Shanann Watts
July 8, 2018 picture of a baby gender test kit and asks if anyone has used it:
Shanann Watts
July 8, 2018 picture of SW's manicure showing she is wearing her wedding rings:
Shanann Watts
July 10, 2018 picture of Thrive pro bar with the caption:
Middle of the night pregnancy hunger calls for Birthday cake ProBar. 20 grams protein,
Shanann Watts
July 11, 2018 picture of the temp in car showing 110 degree outside with the caption:
1st trimester or not it’s hot
Shanann Watts
July 11, 2018 picture with the caption:
I should be worn out from this heat and running around, especially 1st trimester! Going home to color hair now.
Shanann Watts
July 14, 2018 picture of UNC baby outfit with caption:
Bought baby Watts first outfit! — at North Carolina.
Shanann Watts
July 15, 2018 picture of t-shirt that says "Exclude the Food, Not the Child" and the caption:
Alecia, I need this shirt. And one for Celeste.
Please don’t offer me food without asking my mom first. #FoodAllergykid
July 15, 2018 SW posts an Allergy Awareness post with caption:
#Allergyawareness I have been on such HIGH alert this summer since we are traveling. Everything in our home is completely safe for Celeste so I don’t worry as much unless we go out to eat, which isn’t often anyway.
Some understand and some think I’m being paranoid! I have to hear my kid cry after taking a treat out of her hand because someone gave it to her and I cant read the ingredients! She’s just turning 3 and don’t understand exactly why she can’t have what others are having. (She is never around ppl in Colorado that are eating something she can’t. So she doesn’t feel left out) she thinks she is in trouble when I say no to something she can’t have on this trip and I feel terrible for it!
I’m so grateful for all our friends, especially in Colorado who consider my daughters safety when we are around or they come over for play date! I’m grateful for everyone who thinks and respects my daughters safety while we visit in NC.
Trust me...it’s hard enough to have to read and re-read everything.
Shanann Watts
July 15, 2018 video of Celeste's birthday party in NC (you can see SW's pregnant belly as she takes Celeste a cupcake): Shanann Watts
July 16, 2018 picture of BoJangles fast food bag with caption:
It’s Bo time! Sorry Chris, baby wanted it. — eating lunch at Bojangles'.
Shanann Watts
July 18, 2018: Picture with Bella hugging SW's belly and caption:
Rubbing her baby she says.
Shanann Watts
July 19, 2018 picture with the caption:
Running errands with two wild kiddos. #Thrivin
Shanann Watts
July 26, 2018 picture with Bella in the car and the caption:
3rd pregnancy and I’m feeling really great! Not exhausted, not losing sleep , good mood , patience with two toddlers !! I’m glad I’m Thrivin and so is everyone around me ! If your not thriving, your missing out!
#doctorapprovedandsupports #mykidslovethrivinmama
Shanann Watts
July 26, 2018 picture of SW's manicure showing she is wearing her wedding rings:
Shanann Watts
July 29, 2018 pictures of obviously pregnant Shanann with Bella and CeCe: Shanann Watts
Shanann Watts
August 1, 2018 on Instagram, SW posted underneath the image: "I'm so excited about August! Girls and I Fly home August 7! I fly to Scottsdale Aug 10-12 for an amazing weekend with my Le-Vel family! Gender Reveal for Baby Watts #3!"
Thrive Healthy Fit Mom on Instagram: “I’m so excited about August! Girls and I Fly home August 7th! I fly to Scottsdale Aug 10-12 for an amazing weekend with my Le-Vel family!…”
She posted the same thing on facebook: Shanann Watts
August 4, 2018 picture of CeCe at the beach with the caption:
The older she gets the more scared I am to let her out into the real world. The world of evil, the world of hate, the world of bullying!
I was reading a post the other day where a kid was being bullied at school because of his nut allergies and a kid put a peanut in his drink as a joke! He could of died!
The world is a scary place. I will do everything in my power to teach her right and to protect her, advocate, stand up for her and defend her! I pray everyday that she never feels any less than the rest of the world. I pray that she’s protected when I’m not around to protect her! Nothing or no one will stop me!
#allergykid #treenuts #Kiwi #stopbullying #Stophate #Protectourkids #eoekid #asthmakid
Shanann Watts
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Pg 1887 (Discovery pg 2082).
8/11/2018 - having concluded her evening tryst with Watts, Kessinger searched the internet on topics like "Chris Watts" - "Shanann Watts" - "Ronnie Watts" and "2825 Saratoga Trail"
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In addition to all the above posts since her last search on 8/4, NK could have seen these new posts on SW Facebook:
August 8, 2018 picture with caption:
-Went to bed at 2am, up at 5:15am
-2 loads of laundry
-dusted whole house
-cleaned out fridge and pantry and restocked
-2 grocery stores with kids
-Celeste Doctor appointment
-emptied 7 suitcases/3 backpacks and put away
-fed kids a million times
-we all showered (we know this is a win)
-went through 6 weeks of mail
-washed kitchen floor
-cleaned up kids disaster
-repacked my suitcase for Arizona this Friday
They literally said, “we’re going to bed!” And put themselves to bed! Rain machines on and all. They are obviously exhausted from traveling and playing. I’m over here knocking everything out and it’s only noon! The old me would live out of a suit case for 1-2 weeks till it was empty again.
All while 4 months preggo! Love my Thrive Experience!
#Doctorapproved
Shanann Watts
Aug 9, 2018 photo of doll covered with twister cloth (we now know from discovery docs that CW sent this to SW):
Shanann Watts
OT: But I’m expecting NK’s next appearance to be with someone like Gloria Allred at a press conference. They’re probably now working on how to make NK look like a victim, or at least likeable.
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No, the full police interview with Caw was posted on here somewhere, I would put the link in but I don’t know how to.
PommyMommy
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Full video: Chris Watts tells father and investigators about deaths of his wife and daughters
gosh was shanann pregnant ???!!!!!!Pg 1887 (Discovery pg 2082).
8/4/2018 - NK Google searched for Chris and Shanann's Facebook accounts
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NK could have seen the following recent posts showing SW was pregnant, they had 2 girls and SW was still going on vacations with Chris, praising him and taking photos and videos with him:
June 9, 2018 picture of text SW got from Chris -- he calls SW "Baby":
Shanann Watts
June 10, 2018 picture of Bella and CeCe with chalkboard that says "Big Sister 101" and Caption:
Ready or not, Celeste....Here comes Baby Watts #3
Shanann Watts
June 11, 2018 pic with caption:
We had such an eventful weekend! 3 birthday parties, play dates, 3 thrive locals, concerts and more! 1st trimester is no joke! Today I’m packing the girls suitcase for our 6 week trip to NC! This should be fun! Then I need to pack mine! This will be harder since most wont fit. Then off to do a deep cleaning on house before the girls and I leave. Plus grocery shop for a “bachelor” for 5 weeks on his own and meal prep for him. A lot to do this week. Thankful for Thrive.
Not doing #burn!
#Doctorapproved
Shanann Watts
June 11, 2018 Picture of SW wearing the "Oops we did it again" shirt with caption:
How Chris found out.
Shanann Watts
June 11, 2018 Video announcing the pregnancy to Chris and facebook with "Oops we did it again" shirt: Shanann Watts
June 11, 2018 Video announcing to the girls that Shanann is pregnant. CW is silently videoing it as SW hugs her girls with both arms and the girls "hug the baby": Shanann Watts
June 13 2018 picture pickles:
Shanann Watts
June 14, 2018 Video ask Bella "How many babies to I have in my belly," Bella says 5. Chris protests loudly, "Whoa!" in the background: Shanann Watts
June 14, 2018 Video of Bella singing "My Daddy is a Hero" Shanann Watts
June 15 2018 picture of SW wearing a shirt that says "All I wanted was a back rub":
Shanann Watts
June 16 2018 pictures of Chris shirtless mowing the lawn:
Shanann Watts
Shanann Watts
June 16 2018 picture with the caption:
The last two pregnancy I never wanted to leave my house unless I had had too. This go around, I’m 4 years older and with two wild toddlers! I haven’t stopped! Saying yes to birthday party’s, going to friends house at 6pm at night, taking kids to parks and splash pads. I am in LOVE with this lifestyle of just Living and enjoying every moment with my family with out saying no, mommy is too tired! I’m addicted to creating memories and living life to it’s fullest.
Shanann Watts
June 17, 2018 picture of Chris and CeCe at a movie theater:
Shanann Watts
June 17, 2018 picture of Shannan, Bella, CeCe and Chris together at the movie theater:
Shanann Watts
June 17 2018 picture collage of family photos with the caption:
Chris, we are so incredibly blessed to have you! You do so much everyday for us and take such great care of us. You are the reason I was brave enough to agree to number 3! From Laundry to kids showers! You are incredible and we are so lucky to have you in our life! Happy Father’s Day!
Shanann Watts
June 17 2018 multiple wedding pictures of Shanann in her wedding dress with her dad:
Shanann Watts
Shanann Watts
Shanann Watts
June 17 2018 picture of CW wearing a shirt that says "I'm a proud dad of two awesome daughters who love the Steelers (and yes they bought me this shirt)."
Shanann Watts
June 18, 2018 picture with caption:
In less than 4 days Chris and I will be chillin on the Beach somewhere in San Diego! Much needed vacation before our trip to NC. #lifestylegetaway #pdforbylevel #vacation #sandiego
Shanann Watts
June 18, 2018 Video of a hail storm at their house. The girls are home. CW is there holding CeCe. SW mentions they are going to NC multiple time. She mentions Chris' truck getting beaten by hail. The girls have to go to sleep because of the NC trip coming up: Shanann Watts
June 19, 2018 Shanann posts "round 2" viedo of a hail storm at their house. She mentions the kids are at school. Then she talks about having a dr appointment to find out if she is having 1 baby or two. She uses "we" throughout and says "Chris and I are hoping for 1" baby. She says they won't find out if it is a boy yet, she says Chris wants a boy and she hopes it's a boy for him as that will make him happy: Shanann Watts
June 19 2018 Ultrasound picture with Chris saying "Little peanut! Love her/him already!" and the caption:
I love Chris! He’s the best dad us girls could ask for.
Shanann Watts
June 20, 2018 picture with SW holding a bottle. We can see her wedding ring and the caption:
So much to do today! But first I’m going to savor this Candy Cane Mix, which taste like mint ice cream shake.
Grocery shop for kids and dad for weekend
Pack kids and my clothes for 6 weeks in NC
Pack for Chris and I in San Diego.
Go buy a bathing suit
Clean house/laundry
Several calls today
Color my hair
1st Trimester and I’m full of energy and feel great! I love this!
In less than 2 days I will be sitting on beach in San Diego and It is Free!
Shanann Watts
June 21, 2018 picture of a sandwich with caption:
Steak and Cheddar Panini...Just What Baby Watts ordered! #sogood — eating breakfast at Panera Bread.
Shanann Watts
June 21, 2018 picture of SW wearing a shirt that says "I'm creating a tiny human, what have you done today"
Shanann Watts
June 22, 2018 San Diego Trip Video. SW shows off their room. There is only one bed. SW refers to it multiple times as "our room" and shows of "our view." When she pans to some restaurants she mentions she is starving and then corrects and says "I should say the baby is starving because I don't usually eat this early or this much," Throughout her talk she uses "we" and "us" then Chris is in the background, he say "What's up!" and she says he is helping her get the bag situated: Shanann Watts
June 23, 2018 San Diego "Flossin" Video. CW stands in the background talking to friends and stares at SW: Shanann Watts
June 23, 2018 picture of SW with CW with caption explaining how she affords going on vacations with CW by selling LeVel:
Shanann Watts
June 24, 2018 San Diego Cruise video. CW is there behind SW and waves: Shanann Watts
June 25, 2018 Video from the San Diego Trip. NU won her car bonus. SW pans the camera and CW is there: Shanann Watts
July 1 2018 picture of SW, CW, Bella and CeCe at the airport with their luggage:
Shanann Watts
July 1 2018 picture of the car with caption:
Chris deep cleaned my Lexus inside and out! #LuxuryAutoBonusEarner #PdForByLeVel
Shanann Watts
July 2 2018 picture of Bella and CeCe sleeping with caption:
My kids are out cold since 12:30. I think I should wake them now. It’s almost 3pm. #Winning #thrivinpreggomama
Shanann Watts
July 2, 2018 picture with caption:
Traveling with out kids is crazy, traveling with two toddlers and preggo is extremely crazy! Visiting with family is busy, especially when you haven’t seen some in over 3 years. It’s been a very busy, stressful, and fun! I’m sure glad I have Thrive right now. Keeping me calm, patient, energized, great sleep and happy! I’m winning!
Shanann Watts
July 3, 2018 picture with caption:
I’m surviving this HUMIDITY, bugs the size of birds and the hustle with kids and family. We have been going non stop for over a week, lots of new Thrivers and I’m 9.5 weeks preggo. I’m truly grateful for the mood support and patience I get from Thrive. #needtocolormyhair #sunkissed
July 5, 2018 video of the girls playing in the rain in NC. Shanann tells CeCe and Bella that "daddy is on here watching" them through the Facebook live post: Shanann Watts
July 8, 2018 picture of a baby gender test kit and asks if anyone has used it:
Shanann Watts
July 8, 2018 picture of SW's manicure showing she is wearing her wedding rings:
Shanann Watts
July 10, 2018 picture of Thrive pro bar with the caption:
Middle of the night pregnancy hunger calls for Birthday cake ProBar. 20 grams protein,
Shanann Watts
July 11, 2018 picture of the temp in car showing 110 degree outside with the caption:
1st trimester or not it’s hot
Shanann Watts
July 11, 2018 picture with the caption:
I should be worn out from this heat and running around, especially 1st trimester! Going home to color hair now.
Shanann Watts
July 14, 2018 picture of UNC baby outfit with caption:
Bought baby Watts first outfit! — at North Carolina.
Shanann Watts
July 15, 2018 picture of t-shirt that says "Exclude the Food, Not the Child" and the caption:
Alecia, I need this shirt. And one for Celeste.
Please don’t offer me food without asking my mom first. #FoodAllergykid
July 15, 2018 SW posts an Allergy Awareness post with caption:
#Allergyawareness I have been on such HIGH alert this summer since we are traveling. Everything in our home is completely safe for Celeste so I don’t worry as much unless we go out to eat, which isn’t often anyway.
Some understand and some think I’m being paranoid! I have to hear my kid cry after taking a treat out of her hand because someone gave it to her and I cant read the ingredients! She’s just turning 3 and don’t understand exactly why she can’t have what others are having. (She is never around ppl in Colorado that are eating something she can’t. So she doesn’t feel left out) she thinks she is in trouble when I say no to something she can’t have on this trip and I feel terrible for it!
I’m so grateful for all our friends, especially in Colorado who consider my daughters safety when we are around or they come over for play date! I’m grateful for everyone who thinks and respects my daughters safety while we visit in NC.
Trust me...it’s hard enough to have to read and re-read everything.
Shanann Watts
July 15, 2018 video of Celeste's birthday party in NC (you can see SW's pregnant belly as she takes Celeste a cupcake): Shanann Watts
July 16, 2018 picture of BoJangles fast food bag with caption:
It’s Bo time! Sorry Chris, baby wanted it. — eating lunch at Bojangles'.
Shanann Watts
July 18, 2018: Picture with Bella hugging SW's belly and caption:
Rubbing her baby she says.
Shanann Watts
July 19, 2018 picture with the caption:
Running errands with two wild kiddos. #Thrivin
Shanann Watts
July 26, 2018 picture with Bella in the car and the caption:
3rd pregnancy and I’m feeling really great! Not exhausted, not losing sleep , good mood , patience with two toddlers !! I’m glad I’m Thrivin and so is everyone around me ! If your not thriving, your missing out!
#doctorapprovedandsupports #mykidslovethrivinmama
Shanann Watts
July 26, 2018 picture of SW's manicure showing she is wearing her wedding rings:
Shanann Watts
July 29, 2018 pictures of obviously pregnant Shanann with Bella and CeCe: Shanann Watts
Shanann Watts
August 1, 2018 on Instagram, SW posted underneath the image: "I'm so excited about August! Girls and I Fly home August 7! I fly to Scottsdale Aug 10-12 for an amazing weekend with my Le-Vel family! Gender Reveal for Baby Watts #3!"
Thrive Healthy Fit Mom on Instagram: “I’m so excited about August! Girls and I Fly home August 7th! I fly to Scottsdale Aug 10-12 for an amazing weekend with my Le-Vel family!…”
She posted the same thing on facebook: Shanann Watts
August 4, 2018 picture of CeCe at the beach with the caption:
The older she gets the more scared I am to let her out into the real world. The world of evil, the world of hate, the world of bullying!
I was reading a post the other day where a kid was being bullied at school because of his nut allergies and a kid put a peanut in his drink as a joke! He could of died!
The world is a scary place. I will do everything in my power to teach her right and to protect her, advocate, stand up for her and defend her! I pray everyday that she never feels any less than the rest of the world. I pray that she’s protected when I’m not around to protect her! Nothing or no one will stop me!
#allergykid #treenuts #Kiwi #stopbullying #Stophate #Protectourkids #eoekid #asthmakid
Shanann Watts
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Pg 1887 (Discovery pg 2082).
8/11/2018 - having concluded her evening tryst with Watts, Kessinger searched the internet on topics like "Chris Watts" - "Shanann Watts" - "Ronnie Watts" and "2825 Saratoga Trail"
----
In addition to all the above posts since her last search on 8/4, NK could have seen these new posts on SW Facebook:
August 8, 2018 picture with caption:
-Went to bed at 2am, up at 5:15am
-2 loads of laundry
-dusted whole house
-cleaned out fridge and pantry and restocked
-2 grocery stores with kids
-Celeste Doctor appointment
-emptied 7 suitcases/3 backpacks and put away
-fed kids a million times
-we all showered (we know this is a win)
-went through 6 weeks of mail
-washed kitchen floor
-cleaned up kids disaster
-repacked my suitcase for Arizona this Friday
They literally said, “we’re going to bed!” And put themselves to bed! Rain machines on and all. They are obviously exhausted from traveling and playing. I’m over here knocking everything out and it’s only noon! The old me would live out of a suit case for 1-2 weeks till it was empty again.
All while 4 months preggo! Love my Thrive Experience!
#Doctorapproved
Shanann Watts
Aug 9, 2018 photo of doll covered with twister cloth (we now know from discovery docs that CW sent this to SW):
Shanann Watts
such a revelation.
great post gardener
Charlot123
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Agree.
Also - people are not responsible for their looks or voices, but NK has surprizingly scratchy voice.
The manner of speaking is unusual. Overproductive, to be polite. This whole interview would take perhaps one hour if she answered to the point, but I find all these excursions into her macronutrients, her exercises, her plants, her apartment, her habits, etc is horribly annoying. She comes across as very self-conceited and really, not caring about anyone or anything save for herself. As a stepmother, she would have been obstinate, rigid and boring. MOO.
Also, she was interviewed by the police. And given what we know now about deleted texts, and other lies, how can we believe her statement "I am totally honest with you guys"? I don't find her honest, and I think that maybe her logorrhea had to do with anxiety caused by unwillingness to answer some direct questions that the interviewer asked her. A glib, but boring, liar.
But at the same time, I don't feel that NK is in any way involved or implicated in the annihilation of the family. She comes across as pretty smart and a good planner. (She also appears bitter because of personal problems, maybe not only current ones).
I can't imagine NK "coaching" CW on resolving his family issues. I can imagine her telling him that three kids and a divorce would be a huge financial burden for her to bear, and him deciding to cut the Gordian knot the way he saw fit, but it is not her fault.
(On a side note - i really liked the interviewing style of the detective).
Her dad is pretty angry when he says "leading", but when they discussed her friends between the two, they both appeared viscous, I can't find a better word. Rolling back and forth for how long you need to know a guy to introduce him to your family, all these meaningless repeats...
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It also said in the autopsy report that Bellas injuries were consistent with downward pressure. She fought, and likely Chris had to "try" harder to apply force. It said it appeared as if she was trying to struggle to move backwards, or something like that. Imo
If it were me as the mistress I would be DEVASTATED about this situation.... completely and utterly destroyed that I indirectly was responsible for the death of an innocent pregnant mother and her two adorable sweet girls. I would be saying sorry over and over and ruminating in my head what I could have done better, blaming myself and would be wanting to ask forgiveness for my mistakes getting together with Chris Watts.
I would certainly not be criticising or demonising the victims that I don’t even know and were only let in to their lives by the monster that killed them. I would feel absolutely destroyed.
Anyone that would feel anything different to this is not normal....nor human
I would certainly not be criticising or demonising the victims that I don’t even know and were only let in to their lives by the monster that killed them. I would feel absolutely destroyed.
Anyone that would feel anything different to this is not normal....nor human
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Poor little Deiter, protecting his home.
This tiny little thing, isn't afraid of these big men.
Poor baby, doesn't know why.
I feel Dieter barely made it out alive, poor thing. A miracle. Moooooo.
Which brings me to, I'm still so angry!!! NONE of it had to happen. And yes, I feel NK, RW, mamaW, and JW were all part of the dark side and fed CW's evil side. MOo mOo MoO
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I don’t think she was purposely trying to impede an investigation either but she deleted the texts after this became a missing person’s case and LE was involved. That is the crucial factor, she knew this might be something big she was involved in, LE was involved yet instead of doing the responsible thing for the sake of the missing wife and children she was willing to delete info to try and minimize any damage it might cause for her. If she had done it before LE was involved I would give her a pass. If you read the discovery, many of her statements in the interview do not correlate with what she was texting and googling at the time. Again, she was just trying to paint a different picture of her role in the relationship than what the reality was, protect her image but it just makes LE’s job more difficult.
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What is vocal frying ?
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It's great advice.
My dad also told me, "If you do something wrong, don't get caught. Because if you do, I'll kill you." Lol.
Pretty harsh. But my parents have a lot of integrity. Super ethical. It can be a struggle but it's really important to me to try to do the right thing.
And I'm not screaming about affairs.
I've known very good people who had affairs. Sexual desire is super powerful. So is the desire for love and attention. Someone focusing on just you. I get it. I haven't done it but I can see how it can happen given the right circumstances. Or the wrong ones. I understand that people can do things like that which have the potential to hurt others, but still be at core, decent and kind and good. We are human. Right?
For me it's the accountability. Responsibility. Worrying about innocent victims or people at risk more than ourselves. Putting ourselves on the line for others.
Maybe it's my family history that gets me going about this stuff. My maternal grandparents risked their lives during the Nazi occupation of Holland, as Dutch underground members. They had two small kids at the time.
On my paternal side my great-grandfather was assasinated resisting the fascist Franco dictatorship and his son - my grandfather- was imprisoned for doing the same thing.
So I lose patience hearing whining about poor people whose emotions didn't let them step up.
I just feel sometimes there has to be a line. And while we shouldn't have to risk our lives necessarily, what about just worrying about innocent children a little more than being embarrassed? And not trying to hide potential evidence? Or act arrogantly or evasively?
This has been a brutal case and it has astounded me to see victims blamed and wrongdoers excused by any means necesssary.
I'm just craving a bit more of stepping up and doing the right thing I guess?
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Ted Bundys arrogant butt at least went to law school! CW has a high school diploma and some mechanic school.
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I noticed when watching this video that HLN has an episode on the Watts case coming up:
FAMILY MASSACRE
CHRIS WATTS EXPOSED
Friday, December 7, 8 pm EST
FAMILY MASSACRE
CHRIS WATTS EXPOSED
Friday, December 7, 8 pm EST
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Ooo another camera angle!
Can't wait to see his dumb lying face
"I didn't hurt those kids, I promise"
Moo
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NK was VERY interested in their financial situation, which is why I think NK gave us the most accurate number so far when she estimated $140K/yr combined.
So CW would have been making about $70K as an operator and SW about the same, according to CW.
I still think it's possible that SW was making more, considering that she was working very hard at ramping up her business.
Her verified friend stated that SW made $130K monthly sales for April alone.
Based on the LeVel commission structure, if she consistently had $100K+ in monthly sales, then I believe SW was easily making over $70K.
Why did Bella fight so much ? She was a tiny little girl and CW is a big 225 1b man .... did someone else smother her and not have as much strength as was used for SW and Celeste? Bella’s death is the one dominator with the deaths that stands out to me ....even if she was awake and standing up , she was no match for a large man. I doubt she would have been able to fight so much .... sends shivers down my spine. Is that why CW had his quickie guilty plea?
Poor beautiful little girl *advertiser censored*
Poor beautiful little girl *advertiser censored*
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Ditto. The Rzuceks, Shanann and Bella, Celeste and Niko, were caught in the middle of a bunch of terrible people, IMO.
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