OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #56

[Betty P]

I've never heard about Jake's truck being junked anywhere, much less WV! I don't comment much, but I've read every day, and do not remember any of that!

Well, what's your theory about fingerprint testing in WV? TIA

 

[Betty P]

Here is what I have been told so there is no link. Call it an opinion.
The fact that the finger print analysis is listed after Jake’s truck search means nothing about the two being related. That is just the order in which it was listed. Had it been associated with Jake’s truck search, it would have been indented like the three items under Jake’s truck search warrants.

I think you're right, Dudly. There would usually be an indentation following if they were related. Fingerprint analysis could have been done for prints from any of the other evidence collected.

 

[Betty P]

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The defense attorneys want to have it both ways, as usual.

Their original purpose in waiving the right to a speedy trial so they had enough time to receive, process and examine the evidence. They have dragged it out several times by arguing and trying to get evidence thrown out, something that's only done when the trial begins.

JMO, all the delays by the defense attorneys indicate they aren't optimistic about the prospects for their clients getting an acquittal. Perhaps they're even worried about them getting the DP? JMO, they're also trying to build a foundation to continue years of appeals in the (likely) event their clients are convicted. It's the usual stuff.

 

[Cool Cats]

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I am here for Justice for the Manleys, Gilleys, and Rhodens.

This should be clear at this point. Plus I have relatives, my young in-laws, who actually knew some of them through the derbies and were friends with them on social media. I never kept this secret and it is what led me to get involved with this case.

Justice in this case means everything to me and to people in my family. Several people in my family went to the UHR Church Balloon Remembrance Launch. Which is why I have posted photos of it from time to time.

 

[chigger]

I don't really have a theory, just making the statement, Betty P !

 

[iridized]

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I am here for Justice for the Manleys, Gilleys, and Rhodens.

This should be clear at this point. Plus I have relatives, my young in-laws, who actually knew some of them through the derbies and were friends with them on social media. I never kept this secret and it is what led me to get involved with this case.

Justice in this case means everything to me and to people in my family. Several people in my family went to the UHR Church Balloon Remembrance Launch. Which is why I have posted photos of it from time to time.

I enjoy your posts Cool Cats. You clearly do not suffer from emotional dysregulation.

 

[Betty P]

I don't really have a theory, just making the statement, Betty P !

Well, if you have a theory, please feel free to share it.

There's a lot of evidence that's been gathered by the state. It seems like they have a pretty strong case, but they'll present it all carefully. It's a lot for the average armchair sleuth to keep up with.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Well, what's your theory about fingerprint testing in WV? TIA

MT THEORY ABOUT WV FINGERPRINT IN WEST VIRGINIA is that the HOMELAND SECURITY office is located Charleston and Mike DeWine said that the HomeLand Security was involved in gathering evidence against the Wagners, JMO

 

[Antimony]

The Homeland Security office in Charleston is called the FUSION center. It is a WV office. There is a FUSION center in Columbus. Of course it is called THE Ohio State Fusion Center. Every state has one.

 

[Loomis124]

Prior to hearing the theory this week about Jake's truck being sold, junked, whatever (which we still don't have proof), I always just thought Jake and George IV were in it when they were arrested in Ross County? Just my opinion only, I have no proof what they were driving. JMO

 

[Loomis124]

Isn't it possible G3, G4 and Jake were stopped routinely while going through WVA. What if they all had hotel rooms, and Angela and the kids stayed back while the three went to get beer and cigarettes and got pulled over? Seems like I remember us discussing, where was Angela? ALL JUST OPINION, NO FACTS

 

[Loomis124]

@Merrygirl are you perhaps lurking? I have a question. TY

 

[Betty P]

I'll do some searches tomorrow, but I think there has been discussion about the vehicles the Wags took to AK vs those the sold or otherwise left behind. I recall when we were looking at some news photos of their vehicles in AK.

When BCI put the GPS tracker on Jake and James Manley's vehicles what truck was Jake driving then?

 

[Puzzles8]

I'll do some searches tomorrow, but I think there has been discussion about the vehicles the Wags took to AK vs those the sold or otherwise left behind. I recall when we were looking at some news photos of their vehicles in AK.

When BCI put the GPS tracker on Jake and James Manley's vehicles what truck was Jake driving then?

The vehicles that I'm aware of are the two Dodge trucks that were searched on the 41 property right before they left for AK. I'm assuming these were also the same trucks they traveled to AK in. One was light grey the other was either black or dark grey. There are pictures of them in the DM article 6/2017 on their AK property.

I have no idea whether either of these trucks were the ones LE searched January/2019.

Does anyone remember the approx. date the Excursion was put up for sale and sold?

 

[Johnny B Bad]

I thought in the beginning of the arrest there was 2 dodge truck and a 1500 Chevy, JMO

Wagner family members arrested in execution-style murders of Pike Co., OH family
DeWine’s office was unusual and explicit:

“Investigators are interested in receiving information regarding any interactions, conversations, dealings, or transactions that the public may have had with these individuals, which could be personal, business or otherwise. Specifically, information could include, but is not limited to, information regarding vehicles, firearms and ammunition.”

 

[Johnny B Bad]

The Wagners moved back to the area in the spring when the ran out of money, authorities have told FOX19 NOW.

Jake Wagner had custody of his daughter with Hanna Rhoden. Before the slayings, authorities have said the two were embroiled in a contentious custody battle.

The Wagners had denied that and said the dispute had been amicably settled.

Sophia was in the care of the Wagners at the time of the killings and was not in the home when they occurred, Reader has said.

READ MORE: Investigators focused on family of 4 in unsolved Rhoden family killings

Continued Searches

In August, two properties were searched in connection with the slayings: one in Pike County and another in Scioto County.

Authorities never explained why the properties were searched or said what, if anything, they seized, or what led them to have enough probable cause for search warrants.

The searches took place over several hours during the afternoon and evening of Aug. 16 under heavy law enforcement presence that included SWAT teams.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

So with the LE quoting the Wagners where broke when they moved back to Ohio and the lady that ran the little store that was on the news quoting the Wagners like to stop in her store and buy pop, sandwich and cigarettes, that make a lot of you fellow Sluthers posting on here the last couple days are all RIGHT, JMO

 

[sunshineray]

The vehicles that I'm aware of are the two Dodge trucks that were searched on the 41 property right before they left for AK. I'm assuming these were also the same trucks they traveled to AK in. One was light grey the other was either black or dark grey. There are pictures of them in the DM article 6/2017 on their AK property.

I have no idea whether either of these trucks were the ones LE searched January/2019.

Does anyone remember the approx. date the Excursion was put up for sale and sold?

September 16, 2016 is the date on that ad AW posted...that picture someone recently posted on this thread. I hope it's alright to repost.

https://i.imgur.com/OGZiczt_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Why would the Wagners burn a movie VCR????
This is a 2015 year.

 

[NotHammerToed]

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Why would the Wagners burn a movie VCR????
This is a 2015 year.

Wonder if the vcr was used by Chris Sr as surveillance where he grew his pot? Maybe the reason he was shot so many times was to get info on where it was located so they could remove it? Just a theory.