CA CA - Maya Millete, 39, missed daughter's birthday, Chula Vista, 7 Jan 2021 #2

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Couple of things folks ...

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digdug6 said:
yes she seams like the type of person who is always active. out and about. locking in room for a day wouldnt fit that characteristic.
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Limecat said:
That’s what I keep coming back to as well. There’s no way she was locked in there for 11 with total disregard to her children, who she was home schooling for one, and to whom she seemed a wonderful, engaged mother. She wouldn’t leave them (and be in the same house) to their own devices. IMO, MOO, alphabet soup du jour.
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Couldn't agree more with these statements. I don't think a mother is capable of being out-of-commission for that long. At least not physically - they'd need assistance with meals/school/playing referee for arguments between siblings/etc. Even if she was dealing with a severe medical issue such as a migraine, fibromyalgia or similar, she would likely need him in the house to help care for kids.

I could never leave the house without my significant other without checking on them after being locked in a room for 11 hours... MOO

[My own opinion/speculation. Somewhat based on having 4 young children of my own.}
 
navywife said:
...I could never leave the house without my significant other without checking on them after being locked in a room for 11 hours... MOO

[My own opinion/speculation. Somewhat based on having 4 young children of my own.}
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You're a mother of 4 young children! :) You're important in many people's lives. You probably sometimes feel it's hard to get any space without so many demands on your attention. I think there's a saying something like ... "Happy Momma, Happy Family".

Sometimes, mothers don't get enough credit. I wonder if LM gave Maya enough credit and lightened up with her at times or at all. I don't know if he always talked about her that bad, but he came across as always watching her with a critical eye, and making himself sound put upon.

The panel on The Interview Room caught all LM's sly put downs of Maya, as many of us did. LM tried to paint a pic of Maya as a woman who would not see her children all day and be downstairs rustling in the kitchen making only herself something to eat. He wanted us to believe she was totally irresponsible. To me, it seems he was actually keeping tabs on her and resenting not being able to control her. (perhaps he did at one time) He was so wonderful (cough, cough) to "give her space", and he didn't even want space for himself. I sense he could lay the guilt on thick, JMO.

Husband has not been named a suspect, but we all know his story raises alarming concern and questions. I can't see her being in the house Friday behind a locked door. I don't know why LE and the cadaver dogs wouldn't find damning evidence in the house and car. LM watches crime shows and has retained an attorney is what I do know.

That case I often bring up, Elizabeth Sullivan in the freezer for two years while her Navy husband pretended she probably ran off partying leaving her children behind. Actually, she had seen a divorce attorney that day then went home and got killed. LE missed bloody evidence and the case went cold until her husband left town and dumped her body in the bay. LE finally figured it out and there was a trial.

Maya needs to be found now. Her family and her children need to know she didn't just leave them.
 
GuyfromCanada said:
The family of Maya Millete, a Southern California woman who has been missing since early January, told Fox News on Tuesday they no longer have a private investigator because the city’s police department did not want the case jeopardized.

More at California missing mother's family no longer has P.I. because police don't want case ‘jeopardized’
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Well this is interesting. Would a PI just leave a case because LE asked them not to make investigations...? Perhaps LE gave them some confidence that the case is in hand.
 
SandyQLS said:
That analysis is excellent. I would encourage everyone to listen to it. There is nothing to watch, so it is perfect for commuting, mopping, laundry, etc. I am not through it, but I had a hinky moment of my own at just about the 2:00 hour mark:

LM states "morning... sunrise hike" "wine-tasting in Temecula" and "early morning brunch". These are his excuses for why Maya was not at home early Saturday morning when her parents stopped by.

He's making it up, but I think he is recalling something. Did they ever take a hot air balloon in Temecula? There is a company Sunrise Balloons in Temecula. They serve pastries and champagne. The checkin is at a winery, and balloon riders qualify for a 2 for 1 wine tasting & tour deal.

This winery, Monte de Oro, has a bistro, but others nearby have brunch, champagne brunch, many restaurants, and there is a very nice casino-resort nearby, Pechanga.

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It sounded to me like LM said something that he wished he had not, like he wanted to correct the word "morning" with the word "sunrise". We know he wants people to believe that Maya went on a hike. And someone already noted "early morning" does not mix with "brunch". He ends up saying "morning" twice, which is one of his slips or tells to repeat a word, so it means something. There is something in here he does not want us to know, so he is babbling, maybe recalling a prior sunrise balloon ride, brunch and wine-tasting? AND he is LYING because all of the indoor dining like brunch, and wine-tasting all over southern Califormia is CLOSED since March or April 2020, and he knows it - so No, Maya did not go to brunch or wine-tasting and He.Knows.It. because he lives there.

JMO he has driven up into any of the southern California rugged mountain areas and dumped Maya there to further his hike theory if her remains are ever found. He says Solana Beach (north and west)? Then Look for Maya east to the mountains. He says Temecula (north, in Riverside County)? Then Look for Maya east to the mountains. He is giving misdirections. (I keep thinking of Gardner's victim missing for over a year out there in the Pala hills.)

LM should listen to this video! They are nailing him. It's only a matter of time...

MOO

ETA: Another possible Freudian slip in this small part relates to a location Sunrise Highway, Mount Laguna, Cuyamaca State Park, scenic drive. Go east on I-8, exit Pine Valley. Sunrise Hwy, aka S1, connects to SR79. That's exactly the sort of mountainous area for a body dump.
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I'm also bothered by Temecula. He mentions around 10 different locations and hiking trails during his statement but the only one he mentions twice is Temecula. Combine that with the amount of times he mentions drinking/wine tasting and it begins to really stand out.

I was planning on asking the panel whether or not locations mentioned in a deceptive statement are points of interest. Do deceptive people usually mention locations that are important to the investigation, or would they steer clear of it all together? I don't have the answer to that so I'm just speculating.

I still feel that Larry was very quick to dismiss a hiking accident despite it being a very reasonable explanation for Maya to go missing. His only argument was that she would call if something happened. If she was found somewhere in Temecula, a hiking accident would almost have to be written off as an explanation unless there is evidence of her leaving in a vehicle. It's just too far away otherwise.

I'm not a resident of California so it's possible I'm wrong but MOO anyways

Edit: Sorry! Somehow copied the quote twice
 
LindsayXO said:
I was planning on asking the panel whether or not locations mentioned in a deceptive statement are points of interest. Do deceptive people usually mention locations that are important to the investigation, or would they steer clear of it all together? I don't have the answer to that so I'm just speculating.
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Great question! One for next time..
 
LindsayXO said:
I was planning on asking the panel whether or not locations mentioned in a deceptive statement are points of interest. Do deceptive people usually mention locations that are important to the investigation, or would they steer clear of it all together? I don't have the answer to that so I'm just speculating.
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IME as a True Crime aficionado, there is truths mixed in on the lies deceptive people tell so I wouldn't write off the chance he would tell on himself that she is in one of those places, and as you say, Temecula stands out if he mentioned it more than the others (although this could be a deception tactic, making the wrong place stand out).

JMO.
 
navywife said:
I could never leave the house without my significant other without checking on them after being locked in a room for 11 hours... MOO
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I hope it's okay to bring up this case again because I've seen the similarities and they disturb me greatly. (Sullivan's husband did one of those "I can't eat can't sleep" all about himself interviews with few details of where she went. He actually put on more of a caring act and said some favorable things about her.) However, both were giving their wives SPACE. MOO, LM's interview provides some clues, or they could be false clues, as to where to look for Maya and he talks so much that it's possible to determine a timeline.

It's possible LM knew about this local San Diego case. People must realize, Elizabeth's murderer husband would have gotten away with it longer had he not dumped her body in the bay before relocating. MOO, a lazy stupid decision on his part.

To refresh my memory, I looked up the Elizabeth Sullivan missing from San Diego case again. What made it seem like she had taken off voluntarily was that there were two (false) sightings of her that mistakenly were said to be confirmed when she was actually dead in the freezer. I haven't heard of any false sightings of Maya, but I imagine there may be some. Like I said, evidence was missed by LE, and husband got new gf and moved away before it was determined he had murdered Elizabeth and kept her remains hidden all that time.

Timeline: The Disappearance of Elizabeth Sullivan – NBC 7 San Diego (nbcsandiego.com)
"Sullivan’s husband, U.S. Navy service member Matthew Sullivan, spoke to “People” magazine in November 2014, saying he just wanted his young daughters to see their mother again. He told the magazine he and his wife were having marital troubles and he was allowing Elizabeth Sullivan to “have her space.” He said she had been going out more often but had never been gone longer than overnight. “The girls need their mom,” Matthew Sullivan told the magazine..."

Husband Charged in 2014 Killing of Elizabeth Sullivan | PEOPLE.com

BBM and some of MOO and the comparisons are all my own.
 
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Algo214 said:
IME as a True Crime aficionado, there is truths mixed in on the lies deceptive people tell so I wouldn't write off the chance he would tell on himself that she is in one of those places, and as you say, Temecula stands out if he mentioned it more than the others (although this could be a deception tactic, making the wrong place stand out).

JMO.
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That's how I feel as well. Some of the locations he mentioned don't seem to fit the apparent timeline anyway. But it was something I was curious about. He also interrupts himself while talking about Devil's Peak which also piqued my interest but that location doesn't fit as well as Temecula in my opinion. He also mentions, almost as an aside to himself, that he forgot there was a mountain in La Mesa. So, in my mind, they are all places of interest as well as not interesting at all. I don't know what to think. MOO
 
Algo214 said:
IME as a True Crime aficionado, there is truths mixed in on the lies deceptive people tell so I wouldn't write off the chance he would tell on himself that she is in one of those places, and as you say, Temecula stands out if he mentioned it more than the others (although this could be a deception tactic, making the wrong place stand out).

JMO.
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I agree.
I remember hearing a talk on L.E. lie spotting.
Detectives have the suspect recite their story in reverse order. Bam.
Ask unexpected questions post getting the initial “story”.
Or call them in for another (surprise)questioning.
I know he lawyered up ...but they did get to question him, watch his body language, his voice & facial expressions...recorded it.
And then there is that gift of his phone interview.
The fact that they’ve asked the family PI to stand down ...I think they’ve got this.

MOO
 
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BeachSky said:
I agree.
I remember hearing a talk on L.E. lie spotting.
Detectives have the suspect recite their story in reverse order. Bam.
Ask unexpected questions post getting the initial “story”.
Or call them in for another (surprise)questioning.
I know he lawyered up ...but they did get to question him, watch his body language, his voice & facial expressions...recorded it.
And then there is that gift of his phone interview.
The fact that they’ve asked the family PI to stand down ...I think they’ve got this.

MOO
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I agree. I feel like they are dotting some "i's" and crossing some "t's" as we speak. I do hope they find her soon, no matter what happened.
 
Oh yeah, he shot out a bunch of locations. I'm glad some of you are checking out places he mentioned and the possible clues there in his interview.

MOO, I hear a slyness in how he chisels away at Maya. He may seem to be babbling, but some of what he said was rehearsed in his mind beforehand, and then nerves made him make some slips. Basically though, he knew how he wanted to paint the picture, IMO.

Sending LE in many directions to look for Maya could be his plan. I still often consider a fast, local drive late Thursday or after midnight. Lots of local places around. The Friday trip could be a ruse. It puts obvious emphasis on Friday with his being gone and the locked door, his insistence that he heard her. It's odd to call that much attention to that day for someone trying to be sneaky on that exact day. The panel seemed to believe he had help and it could mean another car.

I do agree, LE might already have a case, but they still need to find Maya. All JMO.
 
Prayers going out to Maya's children and her loving family.

California missing mother's family no longer has P.I. because police don't want case ‘jeopardized’ | Fox News

"The police haven’t really told us anything. They haven’t really given us any details on anything that they found from the search warrant. Everything’s still under investigation and, unfortunately, they don’t want to leak anything out," Drouaillet said. "They don’t want to sabotage or risk anything."

Drouaillet said his family had hired a private investigator to get answers, but police felt that he would "jeopardize the investigation."

"He wanted to interview some of the neighbors but (the) police asked him not to. Which is really unfortunate. It would’ve helped a lot," Drouaillet said of the P.I.

 
Experienced search and rescue volunteers join hunt for missing Chula Vista mom (10news.com)
last updated 5:30 PM, Feb 28, 2021

"Two of Maya’s brothers and other family members were also at the search, but many people who participated were strangers. One of them was Alejandro Orpigoza, who is part of a volunteer search and rescue group called the Armadillos, who help locate people around the U.S./Mexico border."
[...]
"Another volunteer with experience was Claude Sims, who is a private investigator and said he’s helped with multiple community searches for missing people throughout the years."

“Knowledge is power, you know what you’re looking for, you have an idea of what you’re looking for, it makes it a little bit easier,” he said,..."

BBM
 
I do find it interesting, during LM interview, he mentions physically seeing her, then self corrects himself and says visually seeing her that night. just my opinion, but he seems to have an issue with that word.

MOO
 
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