Johnny B Bad
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So Sleuthers was the guns and vehicle that Jake Wagner give up for evidence where they whole or chopped up????
He retracted it when the news of the marijuana grow operations became public and he didn't want to put money up for potential drug dealers.I would like to know the story behind the Steak House owner pulling his offer of reward
soon after he issued it. Threats? LE Request?
Ok no argument from me I was just curious, thanks for answering.I think after all the trouble the Rhodens family had out of the Wagners family the last two weeks they was alive that Kenneth would not open his camper door to one of the male Wagner without his gun in his hand, he saw no threat from AW, JMO
You know that got me thinking,whatever happened to that gold Caddy?So Sleuthers was the guns and vehicle that Jake Wagner give up for evidence where they whole or chopped up????
I'm looking for RICO charges to come upYep, some good follow up right there can help. Jake should be able, in his "admissions", to add much more.
MO. regardless of what has already been said to reporters or in court, I believe new information provided by Jake can be used against FW. MO.
I don't clearly remember the wording of the all the full original counts against the W's, but maybe FW can be easily brought in. as the 5th.
After all, didn't Prosecution describe the W's as a criminal enterprise?
FW is the head W, funding most other W's and must have been aware of their actions. MO. Didn't she ever question? I bet she did and knew it all.
All my theory and speculation. I dont know the ins and outs of the law here, but AC will do it if possible, MO.
Final thought. Now it has independently come to light that FW was harboring a Fugitive from justice from the State of NY. on her FWF. What about that? How does that happen?
Sure doesn't fit with my definition of " living close to the cross". Remember when her attorney stated that?
Again, all speculation.
Reporters are lazy anymore. It makes me crazy!
This reporter states that the W's had hacked the FB accounts of some of the Rhodens. Canepa specifically said that the HMR messages to the other person that were screenshot on the laptop were acquired by the Wagner's because they had hacked the person HMR was talking to. Canepa does not identify who that person was. The only person that can be eliminated is HMR.
Then the reporter says that the W's were monitoring the Rhoden's in their homes with surveillance cameras! Are you kidding me with this? Trail cams and DVRs belonging to the R's are what was removed. At no point did I hear Canepa say that cameras were installed inside the Rhoden homes and the W's were monitoring the R's through them.
This is exactly why I typed out the specifics from Canepa's Statement of Facts. Rumors run rampant when there is lazy reporting. People believe reporters, and they should be able to do so; we rely on the press to report facts to us. But it didn't take a lot of effort to fact check this specific reporter and show that she didn't do her homework and doesn't know as much as she purports to know about this case.
So do I believe that JW said he "found God" as reported in this clip? Not really.
P.S. Cool Cats, none of what I said here is about you btw. It is about how reporters say things and we believe them. I wish they would take their work more seriously.
That;s how I see her also. Her and Bob had it going on for a long long time. If they are guilty AT ALL it came from the head of the table. I think this was discussed before Bob died because Sophia is entitled to Wagner assests as an heir and the W's just were never going to give the R's whom they felt were way beneath them any of the Wagner fortune.I, for one, do not think the 4 Wagner's did anything without the knowledge and approval of FW.
AW was not high up enough in the family tree nor anywhere near assertive enough to buck FW.
A female Vito Corleone.
Wonder how much of that Wagner fortune is left?That;s how I see her also. Her and Bob had it going on for a long long time. If they are guilty AT ALL it came from the head of the table. I think this was discussed before Bob died because Sophia is entitled to Wagner assests as an heir and the W's just were never going to give the R's whom they felt were way beneath them any of the Wagner fortune.
Not trying to be argumentative, but, finding god is probably the only reason Jake changed his plea. You could hear it in his voice when he said Your Honor I am guilty.
He retracted it when the news of the marijuana grow operations became public and he didn't want to put money up for potential drug dealers.
Wonder how much of that Wagner fortune is left?
I'm looking for RICO charges to come up
Not trying to be argumentative, but, finding god is probably the only reason Jake changed his plea. You could hear it in his voice when he said Your Honor I am guilty.
He retracted it when the news of the marijuana grow operations became public and he didn't want to put money up for potential drug dealers.
I'm looking for RICO charges to come up
Jake already pleaded guilty to Count 22 - Engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. That charge included GW4, GW3, AW and FW
https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...cial-Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments
I respect your opinion but I %100 believe ......
The only reason Jake changed his plea is because the prosecution kept piling on the evidence. This has been playing out in court for 2 1/2 years. He thought he could get the expert shoe testimony evidence thrown out as pseudo science and get ballistics expert testimony thrown out.
This didn't seem to work.
Then the prosecution gave the defense the transcript of George's Bond Hearing and Jake learned that George's savvy attorney was going to pin all the murders on him.
Then Jake got to see transcripts of recordings BCI recorded of them. There were 8,000 of interest and they had to par it down. Jake could see those incriminating statements George made among literally 100's of others.
Then the prosecution dumped the straw that broke the camels back:
Other Acts Evidence
This made Jake look so bad that any jury would believe him capable of murder.
This also brought home the stark reality that there were witnesses who had been very close to him that now were giving testimony to prosecutors and they would likely give those statements before the jury.
Jake Wagner folded when he tried his last hand in court and the prosecution countered with a Royal Flush...
...2 Cent "hand"
So Sleuthers was the guns and vehicle that Jake Wagner give up for evidence where they whole or chopped up????
The Other Acts Evidence was devastating to their cases - all of the Wagners. It revealed, through the eyes of those who knew them, what terrible, cold monsters they were. It revealed how GW3 had pulled a gun on GW4's ex partner and mother of his child. It revealed extensive domestic violence against the ex and Hanna Rhoden, along with horrible threats. It also revealed that Angela Wagner's plan was to obtain sole custody of all her grandchildren and raise them to acknowledge only AW as their mother.