Couldn't they just use their own eyes? It clearly matches RG and not RS.After hearing the testimony from all experts, the jury concluded that it was not Rudy's footprint.
Couldn't they just use their own eyes? It clearly matches RG and not RS.After hearing the testimony from all experts, the jury concluded that it was not Rudy's footprint.
Especially since she was supposed to work all night. Most people would eat before, and so did they. She however changed the dinner time 3 times, her bf said he ate alone, they got busted by his fathers phone call, and the ping records of AK's phone. Who would not remember having dinner before going out to work all night? Seriously. And of course there are so many more things they just don't remember or where they contradict each other. It is not what convicted them by itself but it is all very telling.
The mushroom was up in the esophegus (low end of the throat)--the other food had not yet reached the deudonum(annex after stomach)--I had it all straight at one time, and became convinced TOD had to be EARLY. I would have to go back and reread all, too tired now.According to the motivation report; pg 37:
"She remembered that they had eaten pizza and an apple cake. She did not know when they had finished eating; perhaps an hour before leaving; and she indicated that they had left the house at around 20:45 pm."
That means they finished eating around 7:45. Would there be nothing in the stomach except a mushroom (which was not in the meal) if she died at 9:30?
Right. Why does the U.S. have prison sentences that are much, much longer than many other countries? It baffles me and I do not grasp what is at the crux of it.
It must be. It really makes us appear very bizarre, which I guess we are. : (IMO - it's all about those blasted Puritan roots of our culture, and it's obsession with punishment, sin and plain old societal revenge. We are, in the end, a very Old Testament society.
Couldn't they just use their own eyes? It clearly matches RG and not RS.
Right. Why does the U.S. have prison sentences that are much, much longer than many other countries? It baffles me and I do not grasp what is at the crux of it.
After hearing the testimony from all experts, the jury concluded that it was not Rudy's footprint.
I think it's because the US system is based on punishment, rather than rehabilitation; this the foundation for the practices of euthanasia and life long sentences. We know that pediphiles and serial murders often cannot be rehabilitated, but many criminals can be rehabilitated with the right prison programs. Perhaps psychology associations need to take the iniative and try to bring about reform such that the US prison system looks to correct and rehabilitate prisoners rather than kill or imprison them for life ... especially since the current system does not seem to work as a deterent for criminals or people not yet imprisoned.
You should hear my wife and I trying to sequence the events of one of our days, it's like a badly written comedy! :crazy:
That said, I can understand your argument, however, didn't the pair of them spend most of their waking hours those four days at the police station (mostly waiting around from my understanding, but nevertheless)? If this is in fact true, that would seem to preclude them having the time or energy to fact check their recollection of things, especially given that the police had yet to inform them that they were suspects (and if you're not a suspect, why worry about whether the times of your alibi are accurate, right?). All of the above is based on my, at the moment, imperfect recollection of the time line of events during that week, so please correct me if I am mistaken.
It's been claimed that Amanda was questioned by police for 54 hours. That might even come up in this next trial since it's about Amanda's claims during that questioning period. Meredith was murdered on Nov 1, and many people were asked to go to the police station on Nov 2. I believe that Amanda was interviewed late in the evening and asked to come back the following day. On Nov 6, at 1:45 AM, they were arrested.
I might make mistakes, so correct me if I do ... but that isn't possible by a long stretch:
Waking hours: from noon Nov 2 to 1 AM Nov 6 = 85 hours
Claimed witness questioning: 54 hours
Remaining hours: 31 hours
Time to sleep: 7 hours per night times 3 = 21 hours
Time to eat: 11 meals at say 30 minutes = 6.5 hours
Time on the phone, shower, toilette: 3-6 hours = 3
That accounts for the other 31 hours. If she was questioned for 54 hours in that time period, how did she have time to go lingerie shopping, have sex, visit with Raffaele's friends, send emails, talk with Perugia instructors, figure out the rent situation, contact the University, so on?
You are precisely correct here - and IMO alot of the problem is also that Americans like to punish SINS, not crimes (aka, non-violent, consensual actions that general society frowns upon, such as drug use, prostitution, 'obscene' materials that aren't CP)
Thank you. This is why it is important to find out a more detailed timeline of those all important days - it really has a huge impact on whether or not they were exhausted during questioning (we really can't assume that they got a full nights rest each day without that timeline, and if they didn't...).
BTW, the lingerie thing has long since been proven to be just plain old underwear shopping, which only proves that she's not some nasty stinky girl that wears dirty underwear for days on end - continuing to use that misleading terminology after the act was proven normal and harmless hurts the credibility of surrounding statements, and probably should be avoided. Please note that I'm not attacking you, just pointing out an avoidable hot-button.
Once you add religion and politics to how society deals with people that are not properly socialized, we do see things like what the Romans did with Christ ... but most westernized societies aboloshed the death penalty long ago. Many countries divide prisononers into two categories: those that will get better (released), and those that will not get better (psychiatric housing - often impossible to get out of). When someone is locked up for life, it is because there is a serious mental defect that presents a danger to soceity. Joran van der Sloot, if he is ever tried in Aruba, would end up in a psychiatric ward in the Netherlands because of his additional offenses. He would never be released. Jens would be released after 7 years in Germany because he was young at the time of the crime, and there was a strong indication of rehabiliation. Knox has been sentenced to 26 years, and now more charges are being piled on, but if it were a clean cut case she would be released after 15 years ... hopefully rehabilitated.
If the appeal is denied, I wonder if Amanda will apply for transfer to the US. She would be closer to her family ... but would she really want to see the inside of a US prison after the comforts in Perugia?
I wasn't aware that the US and Italy had a prisoner exchange system, how does that work, precisely?
Not sure, but the Netherlands and Peru just completed the process and prisoners can now be exchanged. Since Italy and Germany are both in the EU, maybe Amanda could be transferred to Germany to be closer to her aunt and uncle, and Chris Mellas could go home to his wife?
So which is it? The Italian jury was composed of geniuses (just like Italian cops) whose decision is infallible? Or they were a bunch of idiots who convicted a girl of murder because she wore a T-shirt?
Apparently, you've never smoked hash. Sleeping for 13 hours is not hard to believe. Apparently, you've never been 20-years-old and in a new relationship. Having sex for 13 hours isn't impossible. Put the two (sleep and sex) together and it's no big deal to account for the 13 hours.
But BTW, I don't believe the 9:10 PM time. That's just another one of ILE's "adjustments" (i.e., lies) to fit their round peg into a square hole.
I would also like to note that a Jury's verdict can only be trusted if the facts were presented to them in good faith by all parties concerned, and only if the presiding Judge betrays no bias towards either the Prosecution or the Defense.
Of course, given that systems like those of the US and Italy give ridiculous protections to LE and Prosecutors that engage in misconduct during trials, that the average citizen assumes that arrest=guilt and of course the ever-present confusion amongst Jurors regarding burden of proof...well, let's just say I'm not inclined to put a great amount of faith in the verdicts handed down by my 'peers'. No offense intended towards those of you who have served on Juries.
Courts accept the testimony of paid hacks (on both sides) all the time. That is why there is a growing trend of attorneys asking such witnesses if they are being compensated for their testimony, how often they give it for prosecutors/defense attorneys (as the case may be), etc. I am not saying that is the case here, for the experts on either side (I need to do more research before making such a statement), I am simply stating that a court accepting the testimony of an 'expert' is meaningless, especially given the woeful ignorance of most Judges regarding scientific matters.