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What Psychological Disorder do you think Jodi may have?


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Maybe we comprehend things differently? Anywhoo, I copied/pastied your post (#1134):The Childhood Psychopath: Bad Seed or Bad Parents?
Born or Made? Theories of Psychopathy

According to behavioral geneticist Dr. David Lykken, psychopaths are set apart. They differ in temperament from other children and are at greater risk for delinquency. He has looked at the statistics on juvenile crime and concludes that only a few children with antisocial tendencies were born with such a predisposition. They are fearless and probably have a weak behavioral inhibition system.

However, Lykken contends that most antisocial behaviors in children are caused by poor parenting—absent fathers and inadequate mothers who fail to properly socialize their child. Perhaps the child frustrates them or perhaps their parenting skills are subnormal. Either way, the child acts out. Lykken calls these children sociopaths and he believes that we can decrease their numbers with better social skills.

He does acknowledge the twin studies that support the view that criminality has a substantial heritability factor, but claims that traits like fearlessness, aggressiveness, and sensation seeking, all of which contribute to antisocial behavior, can be properly channeled toward better things. It is up to parents to do this, and where parenting fails, the child with those traits may express them through violence. In other words, in his opinion, even the child most prone to psychopathy via inherited traits can be guided through good parenting toward using those traits in prosocial ways
We are stressing two different things. :D
 
Here's what NOT to do IMO

Includes the death during rebirthing mentioned above and a few other deaths.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/at.html



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I remember the case of Candace but had never read all of this detail. Wow!

I have a friend who adopted a child from a Romanian orphanage. Boy, age 4. Found out he had been horribly sexually abused.

He was very cleverly manipulative.

They finally got him into foster care at age 14.

He pooped everywhere. In the closets of his room. He peed everywhere, even? out the window of his room. I could not have handled it.

I wonder what effective treatment there is for RAD?
 
Yes, I think that was it. They had her in a sleeping bag or something and someone was putting a lot of weight on her. She said she couldn't breathe, and they laughed and ridiculed her. Truly pathetic.

Wasn't that part of 'holding' therapy? Wah...
I did some training once with a specialist from the US on RAD, he wrote a book about it, but I cannot remember his name.
I think the whole thing with re-parenting is to allow the child to gain mastery over the individuation stages suggested by Erickson. Going right back to the beginning with trust vs mistrust, and challenging the overwhelming parent tapes, and moving through the stages in a very safe, consistent and persistent way.
I don't think 'hands on' would work with many children, I'm sure they would prefer hands off unless with a very trusted caregiver. They need to 'play', and learn boundaries etc in a more 'fun' way and be just like the little children they once were.
Just to add, all assault against a child is a chargeable offence. I don't have a clue how people got away with it for six years, without being charged. How does it even happen?
 
Well, she as much acknowledged this herself. So why is the DT doing this at all? Or is it just a formality? Would she really be living in solitary, though, if she got a life sentence?

No...after she adjusts and/or the case dies down some, she is put in general population. I would not expect her to remain in a single cell for very long. In ca, it can be a few weeks to a yr depending on the behavior of the inmate.

It appears, miss I would beg for the DP if I killed Travis, doesn't want the DP at all.

BP is an Axis II and that has absolutely no impact on insanity or should it be used to escape the DP. To my kge, she has no Axis I which indicates a mental illness.
 
ADC has written policy about custody classification :
http://www.azcorrections.gov/Policies/800/0801.pdf

According to the ADC written policy, anyone with a life sentence will automatically be in maximum custody for a minimum of 2 years (I've heard 3, so maybe after the 2nd year she has to wait for the annual review). After that, they evaluate annually, but some of the factors that call for maximum are: the nature of the crime (violence/murder), aggravating factors (heinous/cruel) , being 'high profile' (intense media coverage or public concern) and record of offenses while in prior custody. There are a fair number in maximum custody now whose crimes don't even come close to hers, so IMO she'll be in max for awhile.
 
Ok. This does not necessarily have anything to do with JA, but talking about JA diagnosis has been gone over and over and what more can be said when we have no new info?

This is an article from Psychology Today on why French Kids don't have ADHD.

Interesting in that the approach to children's issues appear to end up with different results.

This is a very quick read.

One thing that I have found interesting because I see it all of the time, is that French parents think nothing of making long flights with their tiny children. A flight of 18 hours does not even cause them to blink an eye.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/suffer-the-children/201203/why-french-kids-dont-have-adhd

The comments by readers are interesting
 
Ok. This does not necessarily have anything to do with JA, but talking qbout JA only diagnosis has been gone over and over and what more can be said when we have no new info?

This is an article from Psychology Today on why French Kids don't have ADHD.

Interesting in that the approach to children's issues appear to end up with different results.

Tis is a very quick read. One thing that I have found interesting is that French parent wthink nothing of making long flights with their tiny children. A flight of 18 hours does not even cause them to blink an eye.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/suffer-the-children/201203/why-french-kids-dont-have-adhd

Very interesting and I totally agree.

I was reading this the other day...

http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/claire_niala.html

Why African babies don't cry.




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I nursed my kids. Luckily, I went to La Leche League as breastfeeding was not accepted at that time- almost 40 years ago.

They said no solids until 6 months of age.

My doctor basically said I was killing my baby. He wanted meat at a few weeks old. He tested her iron and was shocked it was good.

I nursed her until 23 months of age. The next, 19 months, and the last, 16 months.

Nursing is supposed to help with allergies.

My oldest daughter has so many allergies to just about everything that she has been getting allergy shots for a couple of years.

My kids slept with us and were put into their own beds when the new baby arrived. They would kick the covers off and sleep horizontally.

Because of so many suffocation deaths, the health department of Milwaukee, Wisconsin has made a video telling parents not to sleep with their kids.

Cultures all over the world sleep with their children.

I do not know what to think, but it is hard to get them out of your bed.
 
This is an article about Finland and why their babies sleep in cardboard boxes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22751415

I read that! Quite the tradition! Very cool!

When I was in china, I was amazed at how children wore crotchless pants and would squat anywhere outside when they had to go.... They were potty trained very very young,


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I nursed my kids. Luckily, I went to La Leche League as breastfeeding was not accepted at that time- almost 40 years ago.

They said no solids until 6 months of age.

My doctor basically said I was killing my baby. He wanted meat at a few weeks old. He tested her iron and was shocked it was good.

I nursed her until 23 months of age. The next, 19 months, and the last, 16 months.

Nursing is supposed to help with allergies.

My oldest daughter has so many allergies to just about everything that she has been getting allergy shots for a couple of years.

My kids slept with us and were put into their own beds when the new baby arrived. They would kick the covers off and sleep horizontally.

Because of so many suffocation deaths, the health department of Milwaukee, Wisconsin has made a video telling parents not to sleep with their kids.

Cultures all over the world sleep with their children.

I do not know what to think, but it is hard to get them out of your bed.

I once wrote a paper on the crib death and the benefits of sleeping with baby. Cultures where moms sleep with baby have almost no incidences of crib deaths. It's believed any little difference in breathing is picked up by mom... Even if she's sleeping.. The subtle stirring by mom reminds baby to breath as the stirring alters the deep sleep state of baby, They become very much in tune,

My own son slept in a bassinet right up against my bed and I usually had my hand in there touching him. I was very afraid of suffocating him if he were in my bed...but wanted to eliminate my fear of crib death by touching and him safely right next to me with my hand touching.


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That is probably a better way than having the baby right in the bed with you. Easy solution that I never thought of. Duh!

Here is a crazy article on babies in Sweden taking naps outside even when it is like 23 degrees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21537988
 
That is probably a better way than having the baby right in the bed with you. Easy solution that I never thought of. Duh!

Here is a crazy article on babies in Sweden taking naps outside even when it is like 23 degrees.



I used to have a horse ranch... I'd bundle mine up, throw him in a wagon and pull him around while I tended the horses, goats and llama...twice a day, everyday...from the time he was an infant.




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ADC has written policy about custody classification :
http://www.azcorrections.gov/Policies/800/0801.pdf

According to the ADC written policy, anyone with a life sentence will automatically be in maximum custody for a minimum of 2 years (I've heard 3, so maybe after the 2nd year she has to wait for the annual review). After that, they evaluate annually, but some of the factors that call for maximum are: the nature of the crime (violence/murder), aggravating factors (heinous/cruel) , being 'high profile' (intense media coverage or public concern) and record of offenses while in prior custody. There are a fair number in maximum custody now whose crimes don't even come close to hers, so IMO she'll be in max for awhile.

Sounds good to me. Many inmates are placed in maximum custody for behavior. It is time limited....usually a short time unless they are a continual problem. It is called segregated housing and it is rough. I suspect her custody will not be SHU...but more like a closed custody. She will reside in a single cell till it is determined she can go to the main line (gen pop).

After spending many years with lifers, I can safely say the majority are not locked up. They are free to socialize, work and play for about ten hours each day.

I am familiar with California rules and admit I know nothing about Arizona but find it hard to believe they would vary much from here. There are many different kinds of lockup for maximum security. I suspect she will not be as isolated as some think.

She is clever and would find a good reason why she doesn't belong in any severe environment. She will have attorneys also to monitor her treatment. I heard a rep talk about how severe her housing will be but I am suspect of that, at least for the now. I have seen some locked up for years but that is because they would be a danger to staff and other inmates. IMO, she would be but there will likely be no obvious qualifying reason to keep her locked down.
 
Trying to relate these very successful world baby-raising norms (and several here in the US :) ) to JA and the whole nurture/nature thing, are you all saying that it's basically nurture?
 
Trying to relate these very successful world baby-raising norms (and several here in the US :) ) to JA and the whole nurture/nature thing, are you all saying that it's basically nurture?
I can only answer for myself: I would say NURTURE trumps NATURE: Even if a nature is impulsive, reckless, lacking in empathy, it can be watched, guided, nurtured so that some repair takes place :
(After all, isn't this why they work with the autistic on sharing and caring, with the downs syndrome kids on strengthening intellect, etc.)

In the case of someone like Arias, it is safe to assume that her character was not FULLY set in stone: More educational input, therapy, creative influence would have made her less likely to wind up as badly as she has: NOT pointing just to parents, but to the greater culture. What a horrible world it would be, if there were no help and hope for such people!
 
Trying to relate these very successful world baby-raising norms (and several here in the US :) ) to JA and the whole nurture/nature thing, are you all saying that it's basically nurture?

I still say its a crap shoot.

Some are born, some are created. Some can be helped and some refuse to conform. Human beings have free will. Jodi was taught & raised better than many ...she knew right from wrong, she just didn't care.




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I still say its a crap shoot.

Some are born, some are created. Some can be helped and some refuse to conform. Human beings have free will. Jodi was taught & raised better than many ...she knew right from wrong, she just didn't care.




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Along those lines, I think she thought she would not get caught....
 
I nursed my kids. Luckily, I went to La Leche League as breastfeeding was not accepted at that time- almost 40 years ago.

They said no solids until 6 months of age.

My doctor basically said I was killing my baby. He wanted meat at a few weeks old. He tested her iron and was shocked it was good.

I nursed her until 23 months of age. The next, 19 months, and the last, 16 months.

Nursing is supposed to help with allergies.

My oldest daughter has so many allergies to just about everything that she has been getting allergy shots for a couple of years.

My kids slept with us and were put into their own beds when the new baby arrived. They would kick the covers off and sleep horizontally.

Because of so many suffocation deaths, the health department of Milwaukee, Wisconsin has made a video telling parents not to sleep with their kids.

Cultures all over the world sleep with their children.

I do not know what to think, but it is hard to get them out of your bed.

My daughter is 3 years old and still breast feeds. No signs of slowing down, either. And she has been bedsharing with us almost since she was born. She never even slept in the crib we bought her. It's interesting. It's like even your sleeping body knows the baby is there and instinctively doesn't move in the night like I would if she were not in bed with me. Many suffocation deaths probably had other factors going on like the parent was under the influence of something or medicated. It's a slippery slope but we've had no problems.
 
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